Mid-Atlantic MilAir 2023

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I've only seen them use 293.3. The other, 293.2 seems like a typo/misread to me. I have 292.3 as a Giantkiller/W386 freq
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I did some checking and you are not the only one to report the 293.200 as related to the MD A10 (as air-air). Was also assigned to Bangor and Griffiss in the old days. Additionally, I heard the A10s on 274.100 the other day. I figured it was a range frequency in PA but from a 2021 document these are the only true "range" frequencies so perhaps they just use some frequencies a lot less than others.

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Had activity (monitored mostly from PA site but some comms on 273.950 heard at NJ site) with movement of support helicopters and MV22

Frequencies were 143.825 and 273.950.....comms on 273.950 on my PA feed at 17:43 EDT

17:40 EDT IGOR 03 KC135 61-0309 Hex AE05A3 on 260.900 with Huntress coming into Blue Hen CAP.

17:44 EDT 363.000 NOBLE 11 in contact with ARTCC headed to Blue Hen CAP. Igor calling Noble on 231.625 for refueling status.

17:45 EDT NOBLE 11 now on with Huntress 260.900 coordinating for CAP. NOBLE 11 flt are two F16s from Toledo, tail numbers 88-0527 and 90-0704.
 
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Ron

I did some checking and you are not the only one to report the 293.200 as related to the MD A10 (as air-air). Was also assigned to Bangor and Griffiss in the old days. Additionally, I heard the A10s on 274.100 the other day. I figured it was a range frequency in PA but from a 2021 document these are the only true "range" frequencies so perhaps they just use some frequencies a lot less than others.

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139.85 & 239.15 are new to me as are 290.50 & 41.4. Maybe the PA guys can confirm if they are used at all.
 

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standard approach track to landings on the 27s runways at KPHL

273.950 ---- on my feed the MV22 guys are yakking away on the ground about airline jobs etc
Motorcade from Philly? Trooper-4 DSP chopper N1SP with KILG tower 126.000 on way up the Delaware River
now over to Philly apch 119.750 holding at Del/Pa line and now doubling on back.. .
Trooper 4 now says will hang out on their normal spot just West of KILG so awaiting choppers I assume.
 
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Motorcade from Philly? Trooper-4 DSP chopper N1SP with KILG tower 126.000 on way up the Delaware River
now over to Philly apch 119.750 holding at Del/Pa line and now doubling on back.. .
Trooper 4 now says will hang out on their normal spot just West of KILG so awaiting choppers I assume.

Helo headed back down south past KILG now - maybe they had to check the roadways as an alternate weather wise to helo trip
Just checked the PA site web cams - looks overcast and dry so perhaps the rain held off long enough
 

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Question, why do most of the CAP tankers operate out of Pease not McGuire or Dover?
My theory is that McGuire has sunrise and sunset BASH window for birds and that is when these tankers
are often departing arriving there for CAP Ops. KPSM has no BASH windows at sunrise or sunset.

E) AERODROME BASH PHASE II IN EFFECT - AIRCRAFT WILL NOT BE SCHEDULED TO ARRIVE OR DEPART MCGUIRE FIELD WITHIN 1 HOUR OF OFFICIAL SUNRISE OR SUNSET. HOWEVER, A SINGLE UNSCHEDULED DEPARTURE OR ARRIVAL IS AUTHORIZED WHEN OBSERVED BWC IS LOW OR MODERATE DURING THE "LIGHT-SIDE" OF THE BASH PHASE II WINDOW. FOR THE "DARK SIDE" OF THE BASH WINDOW, THE BWC IS SEVERE. IF BWC IS SEVERE, TAKEOFFS AND LANDINGS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED UNLESS APPROVED BY THE 305OG/CC, RESPECTIVE SERVICE COMPONENT EQUIVALENT, OR OIC/CO FOR NON DOD UNITS. CONSULT JBMDL BASH PLAN 2022, OR CONTACT 305 AMW WING SAFETY 609-754-2718.
 

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My theory is that McGuire has sunrise and sunset BASH window for birds and that is when these tankers
are often departing arriving there for CAP Ops. KPSM has no BASH windows at sunrise or sunset.

E) AERODROME BASH PHASE II IN EFFECT - AIRCRAFT WILL NOT BE SCHEDULED TO ARRIVE OR DEPART MCGUIRE FIELD WITHIN 1 HOUR OF OFFICIAL SUNRISE OR SUNSET. HOWEVER, A SINGLE UNSCHEDULED DEPARTURE OR ARRIVAL IS AUTHORIZED WHEN OBSERVED BWC IS LOW OR MODERATE DURING THE "LIGHT-SIDE" OF THE BASH PHASE II WINDOW. FOR THE "DARK SIDE" OF THE BASH WINDOW, THE BWC IS SEVERE. IF BWC IS SEVERE, TAKEOFFS AND LANDINGS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED UNLESS APPROVED BY THE 305OG/CC, RESPECTIVE SERVICE COMPONENT EQUIVALENT, OR OIC/CO FOR NON DOD UNITS. CONSULT JBMDL BASH PLAN 2022, OR CONTACT 305 AMW WING SAFETY 609-754-2718.
This makes a lot of sense!!
 
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