Mid-Atlantic MilAir 2023
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Sure a lot of low flying dynamic hex callsigns up in area today. The 27a types mostly low and slow. Maybe more small private planes are getting into the game of hide and seek.
Dutchmil
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KC-10s VINYL 81 (79-1950) and VINYL 82 (86-0038) departed from Travis AFB to Eielson AFB this afternoon.
They are taking the final 25FS A-10s home that stranded in Alaska after Red Flag 23-2 and are on Coronet West 470B.
Departing tomorrow at 1900z probably as DIRCA 31 flight.
They are taking the final 25FS A-10s home that stranded in Alaska after Red Flag 23-2 and are on Coronet West 470B.
Departing tomorrow at 1900z probably as DIRCA 31 flight.
JetWash
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NOTAM for WRI McGuire posted last night:
AERODROME COMMAND POST FREQUENCY OTS (out to service) UFN (Until further notice). CONTACT TOWER OR AMOPS FOR ASSISTANCE. Despite the UFN note, the date range posted is immediately until September 21 at 0900L.
AERODROME COMMAND POST FREQUENCY OTS (out to service) UFN (Until further notice). CONTACT TOWER OR AMOPS FOR ASSISTANCE. Despite the UFN note, the date range posted is immediately until September 21 at 0900L.
10:58 AXEMAN-1 flight of 2 with ZNY at 13k going to 17k. MD ANG guys all right.
I'm on FAA WRI notams page and not seeing this.. They take it back down?
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1907 hrs. local Just heard BOON15 Speaking to Brickyard on 237.1500
1935z SABRE-46 KC-46 inbound McGuire says "Depot delivery" from Tinker.
shows as tail #21-46060 but pilot says tail is 11-6060.. Maybe just shorthand for him or he goofed it.
Be surprised how many pilots get their own tail #s wrong...crew of 3 and 25k on the fuel.
SABRE shows in Ron's llist as a Tinker Test callsign.
shows as tail #21-46060 but pilot says tail is 11-6060.. Maybe just shorthand for him or he goofed it.
Be surprised how many pilots get their own tail #s wrong...crew of 3 and 25k on the fuel.
SABRE shows in Ron's llist as a Tinker Test callsign.
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JetWash
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935P local: just saw that this afternoon Mark wrote “I'm on FAA WRI notams page and not seeing this.. They take it back down?” Sure ‘nuff! It’s not posted now. Thanks!
Am down in the area for a brief getaway, and spent some time today trying to get a feel for how they do things at Oceana. Here's what I found in terms of Approach, Departure and Arrival, thus far. Used a couple TRX-1's with clocks synced.
Not a peep on 288.3, which is supposed to be Button-4 Departure. 266.8 (Button 5) functioning both as departure and approach. Most departure handoffs were to Giantkiller on 361.3 (Button 6) for W-72. A few to Cherry Point Approach on 268.7 (Button 12). 266.8 was also simulcasting instructions to civilian a/c around Currituck, NC. Frequently directing planes to Norfolk Approach on 126.05.
On arrival, 323.05 (Button 7) was used at altitudes from around 4000 down to 1600, and sometimes the landing would be completed on this freq. It looks like most or all planes on this freq were handed off from 266.8. Today was very overcast with a low ceiling, and I heard remarks that the 'overhead was closed.' Planes handed offf to 323.05 did the RNAV approach to Runway 5R. One flight of two split to a 'PAR' (I'm not familiar with the term, but it sounded like they wanted to break formation and land on parallel runways) At the point of 'PAR' the two aircraft were addressed separately for the rest of the approach. Until the weather cleared that evening, all planes were on a straight-in approach, and full-stop. After the weather cleared, they were allowed to make their break and go around.
Lots of GCA today, but no button numbers used. Frequencies always read out. In a few cases, the ground simulcast 323.05 and a GCA frequency--the only one I specifically remember was 346.4. In at least some cases, the plane switched to tower freq once they had the runway in sight. All six GCA freqs in the quote above were used at some time or another today. The main difference I'm seeing between 'Arrival' and 'GCA/SFA' is that 'Arrival' doesn't confine itself to a single aircraft.
Didn't really get much done in terms of confirming air/air freqs, but now I feel much better about how to approach the whole package. 266.8 proved to be the real key frequency for both departures and arrivals. I had to keep radios parked on both 266.8 and 323.05 in order to find that out. Today was almost entirely ROMAN's and RIPPER's with one or two INFERNO's thrown in. Maybe I'll learn a new thing or two tomorrow.
73/Allen (N4JRI)
Thanks for the detailed report. According to the FAA Facilities Directory 266.800 is listed as DEP/ARR and 288.300 is listed as an SFA frequency (GCA). 323.050 Arrival is not even listed, so not sure how complete or accurate the FAA is ? The RR Database shows Arrival as 353.700, which is listed as a Norfolk Approach frequency.
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mdmonitor
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0900- Some DC ANG F-16s off ADW (348.725) Working ZDC Baltimore (360.7)>ZDC Atlantic City (281.45). A2A is 285.225 & 238.175. Heading to W107?
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VIP Movement Summary (does not include POTUS, VPOTUS, FLOTUS travel)
DATE: 22 Aug
SAM 789 (C-35 # 97-0401) ADW-MacDill
SAM 470 (C-35 # 20-1949) ADW-Cartegena Colombia
VIP Movement Summary (does not include POTUS, VPOTUS, FLOTUS travel)
DATE: 22 Aug
SAM 789 (C-35 # 97-0401) ADW-MacDill
SAM 470 (C-35 # 20-1949) ADW-Cartegena Colombia
Not sure if it's any help to you but I've sorted the A-A frequencies (from various sources) by squadron. I'll be interested to see what you are actually hearing.
I can't remember why I put a ? beside some frequencies. In some cases it seems to indicate the frequency is used my multiple squadrons or maybe in some cases didn't correspond between different lists ?
VFA-11 Red Rippers - RIPPER - 343.050, 240.550, 265.750, 242.125, 246.900
VFC-12 Fighting Omars - AMBUSH - 301.300, 308.400, 299.500, 234.500, 374.300, 246.800, 282.450, 299.250
VFA-31 Tomcatters - FELIX - 265.150, 245.650, 271.400, 236.300, 245.725, 246.800, 246.900, 269.825, 323.975, 333.300?, 357.000
VFA-32 Swordsmen - GYPSY - 353.400, 355.200, 360.425?, 281.000, 353.450, 246.800, 246.900, 257.500, 263.450, 333.300
VFA-34 Blue Blasters - JOKER - 251.750, 353.400, 343.400, 274.050, 298.300, 316.450, 333.300, 339.500, 357.000
VFA-37 Bulls - RAGIN - 311.400, 311.900?, 275.550, 243.600, 333.300, 275.500?
VFA-81 Sunliners - INFERNO - 275.300, 285.750, 342.900, 246.800, 246.900, 299.625, 357.000
VFA-83 Rampagers - RAM - 306.800, 298.300, 258.200, 399.450?, 233.650, 296.875, 309.800, 324.175, 333.300?, 343.200?
VFA-87 Golden Warriors - PARTY - 361.100, 311.500?, 311.950, 341.900, 271.400, 246.900, 303.400
VFA-103 Jolly Rogers - VICTORY - 299.250, 360.425?, 257.500, 263.450, 228.800?, 298.200, 318.950, 333.300?, 343.200?
VFA-105 Gunslingers - CANYON - 340.350, 255.125, 274.100, 246.800, 251.225, 357.000
VFA-106 Gladiators [FRS] - ROMAN - 349.900, 343.300, 346.450, 277.900, 265.775, 234.650, 233.650, 225.300, 227.450, 229.350, 229.500, 231.525, 233.750, 235.600, 237.800, 238.825, 246.800, 246.900, 248.750, 250.600, 261.400, 263.700?, 268.300?, 273.700, 278.500, 282.950, 283.100, 290.700?, 298.300, 299.350, 326.750?, 333.300, 337.100, 342.600?, 357.000, 357.100, 357.500, 362.200, 383.700,
VFA-131 Wildcats - WILDCAT - 264.350, 235.400, 237.750, 239.875, 246.900, 333.300
VFA-143 Pukin Dogs - TAPROOM - 263.500, 261.150?, 268.500, 314.300, 225.325, 233.725, 246.800, 246.900, 257.500, 263.500?, 357.000
VFA-211 Fighting Checkmates - NIKEL - 228.300, 273.850, 312.250, 363.500, 384.450 OPS
VFA-213 Black Lions - LION - 262.750, 273.800?, 342.950, 379.700, 246.800, 309.700, 327.975, 333.300?, 341.900?, 364.025?, 364.050?, 377.000?
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I think that 353.7 is active, but probably for folks approaching Oceana from outside its slice of the approach 'pie'. The list that Joergel put up earlier seems pretty accurate with the possible exception of Button 16. Good weather today, so maybe I'll catch some more.
73/Allen (N4JRI)
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mdmonitor
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0930- Bald 46 (E-6B # 164387) off PAX heading north.
0948- Couple of flts of MD ANG A-10cs off Martin State. A2A is 266.6 & 293.3.
0950 Couple of 1st Helo UH-1s chatting on A2A 225.6. mention "the exercise".
1003- ADS-B showing Mako 06 (T-6B # 166031) off PAX. Second time this week. T-6 # 166031 is normally Tester 21.
0948- Couple of flts of MD ANG A-10cs off Martin State. A2A is 266.6 & 293.3.
0950 Couple of 1st Helo UH-1s chatting on A2A 225.6. mention "the exercise".
1003- ADS-B showing Mako 06 (T-6B # 166031) off PAX. Second time this week. T-6 # 166031 is normally Tester 21.
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mdmonitor
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1023- Bison 50 (KC-135R # 62-3580 328th ARS Niagra Air Reserve Station NY) working Giantkiller (238.1) for entry into W386. Advises will be AAR w/Salty Dog 100 (F-18 VX-23) in block FL160-180
1030- Chat on 266.6 indicates Axeman flt is near Watertown NY. Heading for Ft Drum again?
1030- Chat on 266.6 indicates Axeman flt is near Watertown NY. Heading for Ft Drum again?
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1055- RAVEN 01 (female) working the Fort Drum Range 226.900
Yesterday afternoon RAVEN 01 was working the Range followed by AXEMAN 01.
MMID303
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Northrop Gummam over HGR this morning.
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