Mid-Atlantic MilAir 2023

[TerryPavlick]

Okay after not finding any explaination for the object at that position. I just deciced to email the folks who might know about it.
Waiting for a email reply - I hope. If a black van shows up and guys with suits and sunglasses get out.....I might be offline for a while.

 

[frank3si]

I wonder if it is a test object for Glare 08 which is operating very close to it. Or if it is an object/target for Noble exercise that seems to be operating.

I wonder if your theory about the "mystery object" being tied in with GLARE08/RC-12 Guardrail testing might be correct. This looks like quite a coincidence if not...

 

[TerryPavlick]

I wonder if your theory about the "mystery object" being tied in with GLARE08/RC-12 Guardrail testing might be correct. This looks like quite a coincidence if not...

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Yeah definitely seems to be the bottom of the track - but with modern navigation systems you do not need a physical object to track off of....just put in the coordinates and hit enter.

 

[frank3si]

National Park NJ - by any chance ?

Yep, Red Bank Battlefield, if they are doing standard north-to-south landings.

 

[freqhopping]

It's still there this morning. I was going to ask about it myself but see it's already attracted attention here

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There is nothing there. Just some test data reaching a receiver somewhere.

 

[TerryPavlick]

Yep, Red Bank Battlefield, if they are doing standard north-to-south landings.

I presume you mean the approaches to 27 ?

 

[TerryPavlick]

There is nothing there. Just some test data reaching a receiver somewhere.

The tie in with the GLARE flights may not be as far off of a guess.....since technically they are testing equipment. This could be the calibration target based on this data

 

[Mark]

I see B752 #09-0018 out for a run..
This tail in service yet or still occasional backup?

 

[RaleighGuy]

I see B752 #09-0018 out for a run..
This tail in service yet or still occasional backup?

I'd have to go back, but I believe it has flown recent POTUS missions.

Jan 2nd as @TerryPavlick mentioned and a number of times in December between ADW and ILG.

 

[TerryPavlick]

I see B752 #09-0018 out for a run..
This tail in service yet or still occasional backup?

It has been active as SAM 46 and MC46 for quite a while....most recent as MC46 on January 2

However it did fly from Greenville Texas to Andrews on the 27 of January - so wonder if it was getting more equipment installed or had a technical issue that needed to be addressed.

20:57:29Z 27-01-2023

AE4AEC "GES d0" 2 ..90018 ! 80 5 FLIGHT MC98 M16AMC009801,08,POS1,MC,0098,01,KGVT,KADW 272057,N3848.1,W07703.5,079,269,+5734

 

[frank3si]

I presume you mean the approaches to 27 ?

Yes indeed!

 

[Mark]

It has been active as SAM 46 and MC46 for quite a while....most recent as MC46 on January 2

Just seemed odd the VP needed a ride and got the 737 type while this one hangs only local flights.Maybe not ready for Prime time yet.

 

[RaleighGuy]

Just seemed odd the VP needed a ride and got the 737 type while this one hangs only local flights.

I haven' noticed VP usage on the 0015-18 planes that much if at all recently, but I could be wrong.

 

[TerryPavlick]

Yes indeed!

Okay yeah then that would be east -> west traffic flow. Since KPHL has a north south runway 17/35 and the 737 and 757 can use it - do not want to confuse anyone ...... be even better if they landed 27L since it would be closer to NJ shore of the Delaware. Since they usually go to near the Atlantic Aviation hangar area (if that is what they are still called) then 27R or 17/35 is better.

 

[TerryPavlick]

I haven' noticed VP usage on the 0015-18 planes that much if at all recently, but I could be wrong.

Since October 2022 VPOTUS has only used 98-0001, 98-0002, 99-0003, 99-0004 C32 and just recently 02-0042 (C40)
I need to find my pictures of the C32 wheels and brakes from my previous work career. They are on one of these hard drives.

 

[TerryPavlick]

Just seemed odd the VP needed a ride and got the 737 type while this one hangs only local flights.Maybe not ready for Prime time yet.

Could all be based on the maintenance schedule as well.

 

[TerryPavlick]

Well as I mentioned earlier I contacted someone about the target and even included details of transponder code location etc with maps.

Here is the reply.................

Good afternoon Terry,

We do work frequently with the boat station out of Barnegat Light. I can’t confirm whether that was us or not though. I can tell you I was just out there hoisting today off Barnegat and nothing was out of the ordinary.

Thanks for your concern. I hope this helps.

Respectfully,

Casey

 

[Tech792]

I checked the online vessel tracker web sites and none of them show any mil ships in that area.

 

[TerryPavlick]

I checked the online vessel tracker web sites and none of them show any mil ships in that area.

Yes I checked earlier and that is too far from my site to see anything.

 

[frank3si]

Okay yeah then that would be east -> west traffic flow. Since KPHL has a north south runway 17/35 and the 737 and 757 can use it - do not want to confuse anyone ...... be even better if they landed 27L since it would be closer to NJ shore of the Delaware. Since they usually go to near the Atlantic Aviation hangar area (if that is what they are still called) then 27R or 17/35 is better.

Oh, jeez, you're absolutely correct, east to west. Sorry about that - I've been looking at Dulles landing/takeoff patterns because I want to go down and photograph 747/388s, and therefore had north and south on the mind. Thanks for correcting me!