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Guys,

Did anyone catch the Designated Survivor head out of town to Mt Weather?
A total of 4x HMX-1 Ospreys landed at Mt Weather just before 5 from JBAB.


Was out and didn't get home when I thought I would so didn't have recordings prior to 6 PM local. Next time if I have to be out I'll set everything up before I actually head out the door.
 

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Okay now that I have my head screwed on correctly (need to pay more attention to installation instructions).

I have the initial feed from down here in southern NJ for mil air stuff.

The link is active and is 73.196.59.184:5000

Will try to keep it online as much as possible and I am still working on the optimal antenna configuration etc for the setup.
 

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What time was this?
Do you know where they were coming from? Around 1030 they came up from the south (presumably Quantico), landed in P-56 (I think at FBI HQ) then went west for an exit out of the SFRA (at 1058). Heard them coming westbound again cleared into IAD's Bravo at 1433, and they again landed in P-56 (about 3 mins on the deck) then back to the south (Quantico). Definitely makes sense that they went to Mt Weather, probably landed just after 1100, but it appears that they dropped off their Pax and repositioned somewhere else? Maybe to keep the helipad clear? When you heard them at 1420 they would've been coming back for the pick-up.
 

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1000- BAMA 31 (x2) IDd as F-16s leaving Viper for KBTV, landed around 1020. (Ron's list F-16C/D 100th FS, AL ANG Dannelly Field AL). Hopefully sticking around for a few days. Anyone have any 100FS A-A freqs ?
Was out but on tape 1520 local BAMA-31 flight of two with ZDC 360.700 (Ches Bay area) dropping down from 210 to 180.
Might be Freqhops unid fighters to Langley.Mentioned waypoint HARCUM then direct. HCM : HARCUM navaid | OpenNav
 
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I have the initial feed from down here in southern NJ for mil air stuff.
Thanks for providing the feed, much appreciated ! Like your other CAP radio I'm wondering if it would be better without the civilian VHF ATC frequencies in the mix ? 127.700 and 133.500 can get very busy at times potentially blocking out a lot of milair transmissions. Plus there are already good LiveATC feeds that cover both frequencies. Just a thought.
 

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Henry, if you look at them on ADSBx you can see the track of the flight and get the answers, rather than asking others to do your work.
I'm not aware of YETIs being on ADSB. The only way to track them would be via radio comms.

I'm not sure who is doing my work? Question to freqhopping was whether he heard anything additional or if he has any general insight on aircraft movements out his direction that he would like to share. That's what this forum is about.
 
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I'm not aware of YETIs being on ADSB. The only way to track them would be via radio comms.

I'm not sure who is doing my work? Question to freqhopping was whether he heard anything ...

My apologizes, I thought they were seen on ADSB and didn't know if you were aware of how to use the history feature on there.
 

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Was out but on tape 1520 local BAMA-31 flight of two with ZDC 360.700 (Ches Bay area) dropping down from 210 to 180.
Might be Freqhops unid fighters to Langley.

Checking the tapes the clearance on the ground at KBTV was to KLFI/Langley. The delivery controller asked them if they could accept the climb gradient restriction of 340 feet per nautical mile to 5900 feet as part of the standard Burlington One Departure. You could almost sense the pilot rolling his eyes. I'm guessing it would not be a problem.
 
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Thanks for providing the feed, much appreciated ! Like your other CAP radio I'm wondering if it would be better without the civilian VHF ATC frequencies in the mix ? 127.700 and 133.500 can get very busy at times potentially blocking out a lot of milair transmissions. Plus there are already good LiveATC feeds that cover both frequencies. Just a thought.

I appreciate your input. The 127.700 is in there since you can hear the controller (well most of the time with the current configuration). That way an aircraft on the UHF side 285.400 can be monitored as well as the controller. The ground side on the UHF frequency is weak - even as you get close to the RCAG. So was trying to let folks here both sides of the conversation. Yes 127.700 is busy and stays busy as it becomes primary overnight for high and low level.

On 133.500 - I was trying to let folks hear the activity further out over the ocean - particularly for tankers and other aircraft that use VHF. Like 127.700 is can get busy.

So I will drop them out of the loop after I configure the right antenna for the feed .... lots of antennas and just have to find the right coax feed !!

Also another note on 127.700 - most foreign military flights use that frequency while going into Dover or further west to Baltimore, Dulles or Andrews. Even Ron's high altitude C130 from Egypt can be heard on the VHF side.

Additionally, I need to add in the Dover frequencies which are not as busy. I need to add more ACY 177th air air frequencies plus whatever I just forgot while I was typing this sentence.

Further work is needed so 127.700 might be in there longer for antenna work. Any other input or requested frequencies are welcome.
Trying to provide the feed for you guys - all I have to do is look to my left to see a bank a yakking radios.

Terry
 

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E-3 79-0002 SNTRY60 is above western New York near Lake Erie (yes I know well known area in the Mid-Atlantic region), now turning around.

Also C-32 00-9001 from McGuire was heading northwest over PA but is now heading directly north.
 
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Additionally, I need to add in the Dover frequencies which are not as busy. I need to add more ACY 177th air air frequencies plus whatever I just forgot while I was typing this sentence.

You should have good coverage of W107 as well. Are these W107 frequencies in there ?

255.000 Giant Killer
339.725 Common
288.000 AR primary
259.600 AR secondary

I'm hesitant to suggest any more because it sounds like there might be too many as it is ? It sounds like many transmissions are getting clipped. Can the scan speed be adjusted ?
 

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Checking the tapes the clearance on the ground at KBTV was to KLFI/Langley. The delivery controller asked them if they could accept the climb gradient restriction of 340 feet per nautical mile to 5900 feet as part of the standard Burlington One Departure. You could almost sense the pilot rolling his eyes. I'm guessing it would not be a problem.
Rare you hear F-16's going to Langley.I guess that puts them halfway home to Bama.Normally F-16s do A/C or Andrews
where you got some F-16 support...
 

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You should have good coverage of W107 as well. Are these W107 frequencies in there ?

255.000 Giant Killer
339.725 Common
288.000 AR primary
259.600 AR secondary

I'm hesitant to suggest any more because it sounds like there might be too many as it is ? It sounds like many transmissions are getting clipped. Can the scan speed be adjusted ?

W107 and W386 are at least 20 nm away ... too far for my antenna system to reach.....just kidding.

Yes all Giant Killer VHF and UHF frequencies are in the scan except for those south of an east / west line from Norfolk.

I plan on adding the refueling frequencies in there as I go. I need to add Warren Grove as well.

On the clipping - I have the channels set to no delay and scan lists to no delay - so it moves right along after mike unkey (unless the pilot is real quick). The old HAVE QUICK monitoring method (when you could do that). I plan to add specific channels with delays but it usually works out that the ones with delay cause me to miss something else (usually with no delay). So I think frequencies like 249.800 255.000 135.725 118.125 may end up with delays. Probably 327.125 and 285.400 since they will usually boom in here.

Other suggestions are welcome. Just keep in mind I am setting this up for those listeners outside the general area - stuff you cannot hear due to distance. I have two ICOMS - and 5 other radios monitoring a lot from low band to SATCOM so I look for the odd stuff.

Just thinking another frequency that might be helpful is the local clearance delivery frequency at KWWD. It is remoted from KACY so most times I know when the 177th will be airborne since they receive their clearance and it gets simulcast down here - well the controller does at least.
 

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Dover appch UHF freqs would be nice..
Main 257.875 and South VFR only 282.325 which is sometimes used on nice days by Pax River flights doing T+G's.
Dover tower for rare UHF visits 279.625
Pax River E-6B Maintenance 310.150
CG Atlantic City 345.000.Heard them active the other day but weak out my way.
ZDC Ultra High 353.950. also kind of rare. :)
 

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Dover appch UHF freqs would be nice..
Main 257.875 and South VFR only 282.325 which is sometimes used on nice days by Pax River Tester flights doing T+G's.
Dover tower for rare UHF visits 279.625
Pax River E-6B Maintenance 310.150
CG Atlantic City 345.000
ZDC Ultra High 353.950. also kind of rare. :)

Mark

Sounds good.

310.150 is loaded in the Pax River group of frequencies. I have ATC, Military Operations and Flight Operations. Tried to pull as much information from RR so people can connect the dots.

Will add the Dover UHF in along with USCG stuff as well. USCG Atlantic City uses 345.000 and 237.900 for intercept practice.
 
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