Mid-Atlantic MilAir 2023

[mdmonitor]

0900- Angry 21 flt (2 X F-16s 121st FS DC ANG) off ADW (348.725)>ZDC Lexington (281.4)>Bay Watch (305.2/354.8). Request use of R-5509 & R-4005 South. A2A is 285.225. Will RTB ADW "via the tunnel"

0910- Wild 11 flt (4 X DC ANG F-16s) off ADW (257.2)>ZDC Linden (133.55/322.55). A2A is 139.15 & 238.175. Heading to Evers MOA.

0925- Glare 15 (MC-12W # 89-00274 SNC) off Hagerstown. A2A is 123.3625.

 

[AirScan]

After listening to the tape, I'm pretty sure the two SATAN's were from Langley and joined the four DEVIL F-16's from NJ. I think that was the case, because they came up with Giant Killer in the beginning through W-122 which is down in Cherry Point, Hatteras area. I'll put the audio up so you can listen in

Thanks for putting up the tape. I checked the LiveATC archives and SATAN 21 (x2) departed from and RTB to KACY. The W-122 traffic sounded like something unrelated. The SATAN flight was never positvely identified as F-16s by ATC, the DEVIL flight was and ATC did call the SATAN flight "company" traffic when talking to DEVIL, also SATAN was instructed to push channel 4 for tower. So unless you have Langley F-22s TDY in ACY using NJ ANG callsigns and button numbers (seems unlikely) I'm pretty sure SATAN was NJ ANG F-16s. Can anyone else confirm they have heard NJ ANG F-16s using 296.900 in the past ?

 

[mdmonitor]

1005- Score 90 (MQ-4 # 168459 VX-20) working in PAX areas.

 

[CYUL]

Picked up an F35 hit earlier.

 

[AirScan]

Picked up an F35 hit earlier.

ADSB-X didn't seem to pick it up. Did you get a more exact time ? Last time I saw a VT ANG F-35 show up on ADSB they were reporting radio comm problems with ATC.

 

[Mark]

0900- Angry 21 flt (2 X F-16s 121st FS DC ANG) off ADW (348.725)>ZDC Lexington (281.4)>Bay Watch (305.2/354.8). Request use of R-5509 & R-4005 South. A2A is 285.225. Will RTB ADW "via the tunnel"
0910- Wild 11 flt (4 X DC ANG F-16s) off ADW (257.2)>ZDC Linden (133.55/322.55). A2A is 139.15 & 238.175. Heading to Evers MOA.
0925- Glare 15 (MC-12W # 89-00274 SNC) off Hagerstown. A2A is 123.3625.

Everybody out and up this morning..
DEVIL-91 off A/C enroute Duke MOA ZNY 323.300>338.330 ZNY Williamsport A/A 298.600
RAVEN-02 single onw ay to A/C range AC approach 327.125
There is a second Duke MOA Res for Noon local.

WV Air National Guard upgrades complete.
DVIDS - News - Airfield lighting upgrades completed (dvidshub.net)

 

[CYUL]

ADSB-X didn't seem to pick it up. Did you get a more exact time ? Last time I saw a VT ANG F-35 show up on ADSB they were reporting radio comm problems with ATC.

Here's the hit:

AF351F

13-5067

F-35A Lightning II

2/10/2023 9:34

 

[RaleighGuy]

FAA Safety Team notice for POTUS travel to Dearborn Michigan monday, no word from WH yet.

VIP Movement Notification - Dearborn, MI
Notice Number: NOTC2846
February 13, 2023
Dearborn, MI
30/10 NMR - 17,999 FT MSL

 

[TerryPavlick]

Thanks for putting up the tape. I checked the LiveATC archives and SATAN 21 (x2) departed from and RTB to KACY. The W-122 traffic sounded like something unrelated. The SATAN flight was never positvely identified as F-16s by ATC, the DEVIL flight was and ATC did call the SATAN flight "company" traffic when talking to DEVIL, also SATAN was instructed to push channel 4 for tower. So unless you have Langley F-22s TDY in ACY using NJ ANG callsigns and button numbers (seems unlikely) I'm pretty sure SATAN was NJ ANG F-16s. Can anyone else confirm they have heard NJ ANG F-16s using 296.900 in the past ?

I can confirm that the DEVIL and SATAN were both 177th fighter groups. I have 296.900 in several older Uniden radios but my own internal list of VHF / UHF frequencies (which includes Ron's fantastic list of information) shows the following - so perhaps the ACY units were working on 296.900 as part of JTAC operations ??

296.90000	1st FW/94th FS Aux 3 Joint Base Langley
296.90000	JTAC HARDROCK, NAS Patuxent River MD

 

[TerryPavlick]

ADSB-X didn't seem to pick it up. Did you get a more exact time ? Last time I saw a VT ANG F-35 show up on ADSB they were reporting radio comm problems with ATC.

Cannot verify the tail number but that ADS-B hex code shows up with F35 everytime on online hex reporting sites.

 

[mdmonitor]

1110- Score 90 now out in Atlantic Test Track at FL480.

1115- Flash 99 (E-4B # 73-1676) off ADW heading southwest.

1125- Egyptian AF Falcon 700X (SU-BTV) departed from St Louis and transiting our area. Landed at Wilmington DE

1125- Kelt 58 (E-6B #164409 VQ-4 Det) off PAX.

 

[TerryPavlick]

1110- Score 90 now out in Atlantic Test Track at FL480.

Hey Ron - maybe they are working with a Egyptian hi-altitude C130 !!

 

[mdmonitor]

Hey Ron - maybe they are working with a Egyptian hi-altitude C130 !!

Terry,

The EGY flts have them beat---I've seen reported alts of 140K plus.

 

[AirScan]

so perhaps the ACY units were working on 296.900 as part of JTAC operations ??

It didn't sound like JTAC. It sounded like standard A-A stuff. At the time they were dogfighting with the DEVIL flight, who sounded like they were the Blue Air team, with one of them simulating DARKSTAR on the 339.725 W107 Common.

 

[frank3si]

I just caught a glimpse through the trees of an Egyptian military Dassault Falcon 7X landing at KILG. Dassault has a large service facility there but it seems kinda far to travel for the oil change special

 

[john8436]

1206 Local, 92-9000 out for a test flight.

ADS-B Exchange - track aircraft live (adsbexchange.com)

 

[Tank67]

I just caught a glimpse through the trees of an Egyptian military Dassault Falcon 7X landing at KILG. Dassault has a large service facility there but it seems kinda far to travel for the oil change special

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To make it even more strange this aircraft came from the west

 

[fLyer720]

While not Milair, it appears a helo is writing "go birds" over PA....

 

[TerryPavlick]

While not Milair, it appears a helo is writing "go birds" over PA....
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AgustaWestland has a facility near KPNE so on a test flight they are probably just doing the proper business thing to remain in good standing with the city of Philadelphia. Never hurts when you need political favors I guess.

 

[TerryPavlick]

I just caught a glimpse through the trees of an Egyptian military Dassault Falcon 7X landing at KILG. Dassault has a large service facility there but it seems kinda far to travel for the oil change special

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Just compare the exchange rate on the dollar and you will see the benefits of coming to USA and then the state of Delaware. I remember airlines used to land new aircraft at KILG just so they could take delivery in a tax free state. Land - do the purchase documents on the ground - depart to the main base for entry into the fleet.