He still hasn't said so Wayne.......
mobile extenders in various states
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waynesewell
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You're right. It's probably just a continuation of the gibberish.
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and i tend to agree with the chap who posted a while back that advised not to depend on the Police Detecting Scanners, most mobile extenders have their output turned down so low as to be unreadable past 100yds.
YMMV. Also, I have no objection to scanning, why would I be HERE on THIS SITE if that was the case? I happen to enjoy monitoring very much, in case it is inferred otherwise.
On a professional level, as a police officer, I don't understand why everyone needs "smokey reports", whether they be from the CB or a scanner. We aren't concerned with EVERYONE rolling the highways, just the bozo's (if y'all will let me use that word) that make it hazardous for the rest of us...agressive drivers,lane changes,insert pet peeve here.
If I have confused anyone, so be it; If I have offended anyone, I'm sorry.
Now off to polish my jack-boots and spiked helmet.
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YMMV. Also, I have no objection to scanning, why would I be HERE on THIS SITE if that was the case? I happen to enjoy monitoring very much, in case it is inferred otherwise.
On a professional level, as a police officer, I don't understand why everyone needs "smokey reports", whether they be from the CB or a scanner. We aren't concerned with EVERYONE rolling the highways, just the bozo's (if y'all will let me use that word) that make it hazardous for the rest of us...agressive drivers,lane changes,insert pet peeve here.
If I have confused anyone, so be it; If I have offended anyone, I'm sorry.
Now off to polish my jack-boots and spiked helmet.
KF4DUC
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waynesewell
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Actually, the nazis didn't wear spiked helmets. That was the Kaiser and his buddies. Wrong world war.
Also, the nazi comment wasn't directed toward cops, but to civilians who think they are cops. Your original post didn't indicate which you were.
As far as not trusting beartrackers are concerned, well it's pretty easy to determine for yourself. If the radar dectector always goes off first, then the beartracker isn't doing its job and you don't pay attention to it any more, except as just a regular scanner. That's all I can do in Texas anyway.
Anyway, now that we have the morality issues covered, and we have established what you don't understand (why people want smokey reports), does anybody have anything more to say about mobile extenders? More technical information, I mean? Some people have found this thread interesting for the technical aspects.
Also, the nazi comment wasn't directed toward cops, but to civilians who think they are cops. Your original post didn't indicate which you were.
As far as not trusting beartrackers are concerned, well it's pretty easy to determine for yourself. If the radar dectector always goes off first, then the beartracker isn't doing its job and you don't pay attention to it any more, except as just a regular scanner. That's all I can do in Texas anyway.
Anyway, now that we have the morality issues covered, and we have established what you don't understand (why people want smokey reports), does anybody have anything more to say about mobile extenders? More technical information, I mean? Some people have found this thread interesting for the technical aspects.
JerryNone said:
First of all read the whole post, Not just half of it.
If you where a unit would you want to carry around 2 handhelds? One VHF and one on 800 trunking?
Another reason why i know they don't use portables in Houston is because they don't have repeaters and are simplex, the dispatcher wouldn't be able to hear them.
They aren't very active, they only do traffic stops and sometimes help the county out with calls (Mostly accidents). They also don't have that much money since they don't run any calls, so they don't have the funding for VHF radios.
I heard one time that the state was considering closeing the department down, but they haven't yet, so i don't know if they will.
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Really? I had never heard about any plans to shut down the DPS. Er, the trooper part, I mean. Shutting down the entire DPS would mean that you couldn't get driver's licenses no more. :lol: :lol:
Explanation for those from other states: the Texas DPS includes what would be called the DMV in many states.
Explanation for those from other states: the Texas DPS includes what would be called the DMV in many states.
Same in MS. DPS includes MHP, which a division of that is Driver Services, which the main function is DL/CDL.
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My ex-wife used to issue driver's licenses for the DPS. There was a certain advantage to having the association with the troopers, because there were always several on duty in the DL office. Anyone who deals with the public, especially when people been waiting in line for a long time, gets a certain amount of abuse, but there was a limit to how much she had to take. If somebody got too obnoxious, she would call over a trooper. "Here, talk to this guy with a gun." :lol: :lol:
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I am talking about the Houston "patrol" part (only the troopers). They don't do anything but cost the state money.
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Gotcha. Was just confused about the term "the department".
True, state troopers are redundant in the metropolitan areas, with so many other police forces available. For that matter, I am uncertain why the county has both a sheriff's office and constables. I have never figured out the reason for two different police forces for the same political entity, or what the difference is between them. The constables are much more prominent, at least in the Atascocita area. I see the Sheriff cars, but always going somewhere else, never on patrol or stopping anyone.
True, state troopers are redundant in the metropolitan areas, with so many other police forces available. For that matter, I am uncertain why the county has both a sheriff's office and constables. I have never figured out the reason for two different police forces for the same political entity, or what the difference is between them. The constables are much more prominent, at least in the Atascocita area. I see the Sheriff cars, but always going somewhere else, never on patrol or stopping anyone.
fmon
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waynesewell said:
It could be that in large populated areas today, the sheriff dept. is an agent of the court and the jailer. Deputies are probably in the process of delivering summons or hauling prisoners when you see them on the roads. The constables are likely the police dept in your county.
In mopst Sheriff's Departments the constables are the process servers, the secondary branch of law enforcement, in Texas they are involved with assisting the ASPCA, and the like as well as being the ones used as process servers, same in MS, and many states. The deputy is usually the front line law enforcement officer.
tglendye
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nmfire10 said:
Why are you guys tearing Motorhead apart? He was just voicing an opinion- something most of us have done on this board. I don't know him but I'm pretty sure I've spoke with him on another board, that he is LE & enjoys scanning- since there are questions about that.
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In Texas the Sheriff is the cheif law enforcement officer of the county. He is resonsible for the safety and welfare of the citiznes of the county. He is also resonsible for the keeping of the jails and security of the higher courts. If their is no constable, the sheriff also is resonsible for the justice of the peace courts and their enforcement and paper serving thereof.
The constable in Texas is not a countywide office, however, each constable and their deputy constalbes do have countywide authority. The constable is elected by precient in Texas. They are given sections of the county and are to attend the justice of the peace courts. Their resonsiblity is to attend the justice of the peace courts enforce its writs, warrants and civil process. They are deemed to be "peace officers" and may and are bound to keep the peace. This means that they are not charged with actually keeping the peace but are authorized to do so.
A properly run Constable's office in Texas should not cost the county money, if fact the Constable should be able to take in enough money to operate the department and it's equipment and pay it's salaries through the service of process and warrants. The fact that the constable is not charged with keeping the peace allows the constable to concentrate on other areas of law enforcement such as the ASPCA, subdivison contracts and the like as long as they serve papers and the such.
The constable in Texas is not a countywide office, however, each constable and their deputy constalbes do have countywide authority. The constable is elected by precient in Texas. They are given sections of the county and are to attend the justice of the peace courts. Their resonsiblity is to attend the justice of the peace courts enforce its writs, warrants and civil process. They are deemed to be "peace officers" and may and are bound to keep the peace. This means that they are not charged with actually keeping the peace but are authorized to do so.
A properly run Constable's office in Texas should not cost the county money, if fact the Constable should be able to take in enough money to operate the department and it's equipment and pay it's salaries through the service of process and warrants. The fact that the constable is not charged with keeping the peace allows the constable to concentrate on other areas of law enforcement such as the ASPCA, subdivison contracts and the like as long as they serve papers and the such.
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CAPTLPOL1 said:
I am not familiar with this acronym. I assume it is a LEO thang and not the American Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. :lol: :lol:
Yes, I have heard that my subdivision, Walden on Lake Houston, pays a fee to the constables for their services. I assume this is what you mean. Atascocita is just a community rather than a town, in an unincorporated part of Harris County, so we are not in the jurisdiction of any city police. The constables are it.
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You are right with your first assumtion. It is the American Society for Prevention of Cruelity to Animals. The sheriff is charged with front line law enforcement, however, Constables in Texas have entered into agreements with home owners associations and subdivisions to provide services on a contract basis. That is why you probably see the Constables out there more. They probably also do traffic enforcement whereas the Sheriff probably does not have as much time to do so.
The only reason you see Pct. 4 vehicles "working" your neighborhood is because they have a contract with it and if the Sherrif's office gets a call in that neighborhood, they will roll it over to them (give the call to them) since it is in their contract. Pct. 4 patrols that area and works all wrecks and calls in that area. Pct. 4 also has a contract on the Sam Houston Tollway and the Hardy. They work every single call on top of those two tollways. Here it's backwards, the Constable's office and the Sherrif's office patrol and work calls.
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Constables in Tennessee do not get anywhere near the respect as they do in Texas. Now saying that, they do not have to have a peace officers license and they cannot appoint deputies. The only training required of Constables in Tennessee is 40 hours in-service. They have to give a bond for office and bond to carry a pistol. They have to quailify at the range in order to carry. That is the only training that they must have.
Constables in Tennessee are not paid a salary. They are not given any equipment by the county nor a vehicle. The only money they receive is fees from serving process and tickets. They only receive $1 from a ticket, $20 for most civil process and $40 for serving criminal warrants. They must purchase all of their equiptment on their own. Many counties have had the office outright abolished by the legislative body or had their law enforcement powers removed. Any county over 150,000 does not have constables with the exception of Sullivan County which has a legislative exception. Some counties have had the office abolished by the legislature as well.
If a constable does something like actualy work, they may have their powers removed. That just happended in Williamson County, TN. Their was a gentleman that was elected to Constable in one of the most prominent and riches areas in the county. That gentleman actually garnered more votes then the commissioners in that same civil district. He acutally worked, wrote tickets, patroled and made arrests. Well the chief of that town did not like that as any matters that the Constable takes action on are state violations and not municpal violations. So if he was to write a ticket it goes to General Sessions court and not to the cities municipal court. Their were all kinds of accusations and false actions that were slung to the constalbes way. He was arrested for impersonating a police officer, which the DA threw out. It got to the point that the county commission just voted to remove the constables powers and later they just voted to abolish thm all toghther. The removal of the powers takes place immedidatily, however the abolishment takes place at the end of the term.
Now for some reason their is a statue that states that certain counties that fit in certain population brackets are exempt from aboishment and removal of law enforcement powers. That statue applies to 7 counties. However, their is another statute that abolishes the office in one of the seven counties anyway.
Constables in Tennessee have to either be wealthy or have a full time job. The only duties that the Constables have is to serve process directed to them and attend the court as ordered by the sheriff or county legislative body. I have never heard of any sheriff or county legislative body asking a constable to attend court as the law is unclear as to what they are to do once they attend, actually it is slient on that. The sheriff's and the legislative bodies do not want the liability placed on them if they direct a Constable to court as the laws are unclear on what they are to do especially if the county has removed the law enforcement powers of the Constable.
Now Constables do not have that many duties but they do have powers. A Constable is a conservator of the peace and should sound the hue and cry and pursue all those riotus assembled. They may enforce all criminal laws and the Attorney General has opined that does include enforcement of the traffic law as traffice violations disturb the public peace. Some counties have by population bracets, have it written into law that their constables have the power to enforce traffic violations. Kinda redundant if you ask me, but I guess their county attorney's liked the clearification. Now the law enforcement powers are delinated by population brackets and most counties can remove them.
Constables in Tennessee are not paid a salary. They are not given any equipment by the county nor a vehicle. The only money they receive is fees from serving process and tickets. They only receive $1 from a ticket, $20 for most civil process and $40 for serving criminal warrants. They must purchase all of their equiptment on their own. Many counties have had the office outright abolished by the legislative body or had their law enforcement powers removed. Any county over 150,000 does not have constables with the exception of Sullivan County which has a legislative exception. Some counties have had the office abolished by the legislature as well.
If a constable does something like actualy work, they may have their powers removed. That just happended in Williamson County, TN. Their was a gentleman that was elected to Constable in one of the most prominent and riches areas in the county. That gentleman actually garnered more votes then the commissioners in that same civil district. He acutally worked, wrote tickets, patroled and made arrests. Well the chief of that town did not like that as any matters that the Constable takes action on are state violations and not municpal violations. So if he was to write a ticket it goes to General Sessions court and not to the cities municipal court. Their were all kinds of accusations and false actions that were slung to the constalbes way. He was arrested for impersonating a police officer, which the DA threw out. It got to the point that the county commission just voted to remove the constables powers and later they just voted to abolish thm all toghther. The removal of the powers takes place immedidatily, however the abolishment takes place at the end of the term.
Now for some reason their is a statue that states that certain counties that fit in certain population brackets are exempt from aboishment and removal of law enforcement powers. That statue applies to 7 counties. However, their is another statute that abolishes the office in one of the seven counties anyway.
Constables in Tennessee have to either be wealthy or have a full time job. The only duties that the Constables have is to serve process directed to them and attend the court as ordered by the sheriff or county legislative body. I have never heard of any sheriff or county legislative body asking a constable to attend court as the law is unclear as to what they are to do once they attend, actually it is slient on that. The sheriff's and the legislative bodies do not want the liability placed on them if they direct a Constable to court as the laws are unclear on what they are to do especially if the county has removed the law enforcement powers of the Constable.
Now Constables do not have that many duties but they do have powers. A Constable is a conservator of the peace and should sound the hue and cry and pursue all those riotus assembled. They may enforce all criminal laws and the Attorney General has opined that does include enforcement of the traffic law as traffice violations disturb the public peace. Some counties have by population bracets, have it written into law that their constables have the power to enforce traffic violations. Kinda redundant if you ask me, but I guess their county attorney's liked the clearification. Now the law enforcement powers are delinated by population brackets and most counties can remove them.
Yes ASPCA American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals,.. watch Animal Planet's: Animal Cops Houston to see what I mean, the caonstables are the maain LEO type used by the ASPCA in TX to make the arrests on criminal charges, some of the SO Deputies also do this deed. In NY the ASPCA has its own fully liscensed and trained LEO's that even have thier own patrol cruisers in NYC with the famous red lights that NY uses for all Law Enforcement Vehicles. In MS most counties still vote on constables, which are like a secondary arm to the Sheriff's Departments here. In days past they were sorta the private police of the wealthy but after years of corruption their purpose was completely rewritten in law. They are dispatched by the SO's and work with them closely. Some smaller towns also work with them though the larger jurisdictions pretty much ignore them unless they are in trouble.
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Wait a minute. I don't know much about law enforcement, but I do know about the Houston SPCA, having been a volunteer for several months at the shelter down off I-10. Are you sure that the television show said specifically ASPCA and not just SPCA?
You see, despite what people think, there actually is no national SPCA organization. The New York SPCA trademarked the name American SPCA to trick people into giving them the lion's share of the donations. People think they are giving to help animals nationwide, but actually they are helping animals only in New York. All SPCA facilities are totally independent and get no help from a national organization, since none actually exists.
The one here in Houston is simply the Houston SPCA. In Dallas it is the Dallas SPCA. Or whatever. There is no A in it, unless you are talking specifically about New York.
I knew the Houston SPCA had an agressive animal rescue program, having helped process some of the animals resulting from it, just didn't know the constables were actually implementing it. I remember one time when the facility was overrun with dozens of chihuahuas rescued from a breeder. At one point, they had an honest-to-god black panther at the facility. I don't know where in the hell he came from. Now that was a big-ass kitty. :shock: :shock:
Of course, he wasn't the first of the big cats. They told us about the time that some lunatic left a tiger chained to a tree in downtown Houston. :lol: :lol:
You see, despite what people think, there actually is no national SPCA organization. The New York SPCA trademarked the name American SPCA to trick people into giving them the lion's share of the donations. People think they are giving to help animals nationwide, but actually they are helping animals only in New York. All SPCA facilities are totally independent and get no help from a national organization, since none actually exists.
The one here in Houston is simply the Houston SPCA. In Dallas it is the Dallas SPCA. Or whatever. There is no A in it, unless you are talking specifically about New York.
I knew the Houston SPCA had an agressive animal rescue program, having helped process some of the animals resulting from it, just didn't know the constables were actually implementing it. I remember one time when the facility was overrun with dozens of chihuahuas rescued from a breeder. At one point, they had an honest-to-god black panther at the facility. I don't know where in the hell he came from. Now that was a big-ass kitty. :shock: :shock:
Of course, he wasn't the first of the big cats. They told us about the time that some lunatic left a tiger chained to a tree in downtown Houston. :lol: :lol:
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