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I'm in need of LCN's for Fairport and Penfield systems. I do not have scanner that detects them. Thanks
 

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The Mobiletech NXDN systems use Direct Frequency Assignment (DFA) and do not require LCNs. The control channel does all the work. Be aware that some of the sites rotate the control channel every so often. What is the model of the scanner you are using?
 

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I'm using BCD325P2. I'm not receiving anything,so I thought I needed LCNs.
 

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Easy question first. Do you have the NXDN purchased upgrade from Uniden?
 

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Yes I do,really would like start over with that process and am not sure how,it says nxdn already upgraded.
 

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Yes I do,really would like start over with that process and am not sure how,it says nxdn already upgraded.

If it says the update is applied ... then the update is applied. It's a one-time, one-way thing.

My personal experience with the Mobiletech system is that I only hear traffic on two of the five Monroe County sites. It's been a while since I have monitored though. Try the South Bristol site instead. A lot of their users are school buses so you won't hear much unless school is in session.
 

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Yes I do,really would like start over with that process and am not sure how,it says nxdn already upgraded.
There's no way to "start over". Once the mode is activated, it's activated. Plug each frequency in manually. Do you hear traffic?
 

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Looks like mostly businesses and school buses on the system anyway. Being that it's saturday, there may be no or very little activity. You're certain you're within range? Are you getting data emissions from any of the control channels?
If yes, have you enabled ID Search to determine if any unknown talkgroups carried on the site(s) within range need to be identified?
 
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Both towers I'm receiving full bars,,just would imagine buses are doing sports charters?. Maybe you're right on being Saturday.
 

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Both towers I'm receiving full bars,,just would imagine buses are doing sports charters?. Maybe you're right on being Saturday.

OK went in the shack and fired up a 996P2. Out of the seven sites I have programmed (six Monroe County plus South Bristol) I am picking up a carrier on three of them: Fairport, Henrietta, and South Bristol. Where are you located? I'm near Spencerport; sounds like you are on the east side somewhere. I've always doubted if some of these sites are actually on the air; if they are they must be pretty low power. Logically I should be picking up the closer sites (Brockport and Greece), not the ones I can actually 'hear'.

I will leave the scanner running and logging with ProScan and see if I pick up any traffic. Chances are I will not. If schools are running buses for sports today they will be few and far between and unless there is an issue no reason for them to talk to their base.
 

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The Site 26 CC is presently 150.965 and Site 77 is 153.425. You scanner should track with only the CC programmed. There usually is little to no traffic on the sites other than school days but your scanner should be showing a strong signal and ND4 from the Control Channel.

With Monday a school holiday it may be Tuesday before you hear any activity.

I am not sure about the 996P2 but on the 436/536 you have to have the LCN for each frequency set to "0" or it will not track. Also the RAN needs to be correct for the Site.

sallen07 - Brockport and Greece both have limited coverage. Not surprised you don't hear them. Brockport is just on a building roof and Greece is only 5 Watts.
 

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I have been watching Site 26 CC for about 2 hours and there has been no voice traffic, just one unit registering. Typical weekend and after-hours. Even if buses are out on a run, with GPS tracking and status, there is no reason for any voice activity unless there is a problem. If you are in the Central NY area, TG 32, Fulton Taxi is usually active all the time but, in other areas, most subscribers are schools. The only major business users are VanSlyke Trucking (construction material) in the Syracuse area and Casella Waste Management in Potsdam.
 

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These commercial systems are typically dead over the weekend, unless they happen to carry EMS traffic as some do, or it's snowing and the public works/plowing contractors are out in full force. Or taxi services as @k2hz already mentioned.
 

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The site I listen to ,is Penfield. Site 4D I'm using BCD325P2.
 
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Penfield is Site 77 so it is RAN 13, CC is 153.425 and seldom changes. The usual TGs on the site are Greece 11 & 12, Williamson 61 and Wayne Central 156. Williamson or Wayne, maybe both, use Individual Call quite a bit so you need to have ID Search active to hear it. *
 

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45 would be Site 45 or 109. RAN = Site # for Sites 1-63 or Site # -64 for Sites 64-127.

109 is probably a Bradford County PA site in the group (WRJD969) with 108 that is the only one positively identified so far. We really need the Site 108 Neighbor List to fill in the details of the other sites in the area.
 

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109 is probably a Bradford County PA site in the group (WRJD969) with 108 that is the only one positively identified so far. We really need the Site 108 Neighbor List to fill in the details of the other sites in the area.

The Baptist Hill RAN remains a RAN 44. The RAN 45 is what i got from Armenia Mt. and Mount Pisgah.

Unfortunately, the 100 TG I now get (mostly from Armenia) is encrypted. An employee has also informed me that they are encrypted. As such, I've pretty much concluded my research. Thought you'd like to know.
 

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The Baptist Hill RAN remains a RAN 44. The RAN 45 is what i got from Armenia Mt. and Mount Pisgah.

Unfortunately, the 100 TG I now get (mostly from Armenia) is encrypted. An employee has also informed me that they are encrypted. As such, I've pretty much concluded my research. Thought you'd like to know.
2 sites can't have the same RAN so which is it, Armenia or Mt Pisgah? I had personally confirmed the Site 108 151.7225 CC RAN 44 Baptist Hill Rd site while monitoring from a high location in the Ithaca area after finding the frequency on the Ithaca NL. I was able to receive the CC with a very weak signal to confirm the RAN but have not been able to receive it anywhere strong enough to get the NL.

What frequency is a steady CC signal that shows RAN45? Is the DE TG100 the only TG observed on the Armenia site?

Do you hear any activity on the UHF frequencies on that license for the Troy High School site? The UHF frequencies are sometimes conventional, not trunked, when the system is first built out.
 
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