More 770 MHz control channels

[mciupa]

While trying to map the TPS P25, I noticed two other systems in the 770 range.

770.20625 SysID 000-10 Site 010 WACN 148DE NAC A

and

770.31875 Site 1 064C WACN BEE00 Site NAC 641

They're starting to sprout like weeds now.

 

[moonbounce]

Thanks for the update I had keeping an eye on that band for a long time but didn't see any action so I sort of stopped watching. I was wondering how long it would take to become active, I will now keep an eye on it.

MB
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[Jay911]

Either those are two different systems or you were getting a crap decode on the first one... WACNs don't match.

WACN BEE00 (BEE0x really) is a dead giveaway of a Motorola system. 148DE-000 with only NAC 00A? Not sure it's legit. Technically it could be, but give it another shot before you commit on it.

 

[mciupa]

Regarding sysid 148DE, Unitrunker lists this as M/A-COM manufactured

Site 25

Channels:
769.63125 Control
769.88125 alt
770.13125 alt
771.16875 alt
771.45625 alt
772.75625 alt
Call sign CKU534

another site on this on as well,

Site 10

770.20625 alt
770.70625 Control
771.20625 alt
771.66875 alt
772.50625 alt
773.84375 alt

 

[mciupa]

And for sysid 64C ,it's Motorola

770.31875 Control
770.65625 alt
772.54375 alt
772.69375 alt

 

[radioman253]

770mhz control channels

148de is the new Durham region system.
There are other sites from that system that are full strength in the Oshawa Whitby area
Have heard lots of testing mostly encrypted in both p25 phase 1 and phase 2 modes. I don't have a radio that will do phase 2 yet so I have no idea if those signals are end. Will have to run unitrunker
I am betting that the 64c system is York region. Does not come in that well here.

 

[slicerwizard]

I mapped the north/south/east zone site locations a couple of months ago. They probably haven't added any since then.

http://home.ica.net/~phoenix/wap/DurhamRegion/Durham Region P25 System Sites.PNG

 

[mikewazowski]

64c was loud and clear in Newmarket.

 

[bigcam406]

why the red and green? are they different towers for different systems?

 

[Jay911]

There's yellow as well, so I figured they were the aforementioned zones.

 

[mciupa]

I've put up the York Region (Project 25) for downloading.

Channel access lists as P2.

 

[bigcam406]

if I enter the freq's for these systems on my psr500/600,and I just wildcard the tg's,will I be able to pickup the tg numbers? I know I wont be able to listen to comms as its not a phase 2 scanner.just want to log tg numbers.thanks.

 

[mciupa]

I have not logged any talkgroups for either York or Durham P25 as of yet.

The only Radio ID I found logged in on York was 5555555 with three hits between 7:25 to 7:30 pm yesterday.
No Users or Groups on Durham.

 

[bigcam406]

I will try and log some tg's for Durham if my scanner is able to.CC's are good and strong.

 

[mikewazowski]

Keep in mind that your scanner will work fine on any Phase I talkgroups. Many systems deployed in the GTA support Phase II talkgroups but at this time only Metrolinx actually uses them.

 

[ninfreak]

I don't think GTA will be using any Phase 2 talk groups (TDMA) for a wile the radio cost to much they probably have the p2 Channel access for future use so win they decide to use TDMA

 

[Jay911]

Um, on a big contract like a city would undertake, the cost difference between a phase 1 or phase 2 radio (if there even was a difference) would be negligible.

 

[ninfreak]

my city dent even buy new radios for fire and city workers they just had the radios up graded and the radios that could not be upgraded got new ones police got the new radios for there hardware ENC

 

[ninfreak]

if I’m correct they would have to use the APX series modes that are like 2000.00 give and take because of city deal would probley ran them 1000,00 more per radio that adds up quick

 

[bigcam406]

Keep in mind that your scanner will work fine on any Phase I talkgroups. Many systems deployed in the GTA support Phase II talkgroups but at this time only Metrolinx actually uses them.

so the tg's on a phase 2 system still wont show up on a scanner that can only handle phase 1? I know I couldn't listen to them,but I figured I still could see the tg numbers.