Moto XTS 5000 Model III

[gtaman]

Well its programmed as a fire radio for columbus ohio and i live 2 counties away from there i don't wanna listen to them i wanna have it deprogrammed and get consent from a ohio marcs admin and maybe have it programmed to the ohio marcs system

Wait. This doesn't add up. You said you're two county's away. Technically you can recive the system but your radio won't affiliate because its to far. Shouldn't your radio display out of range? Which means your radio was stunned within affiliation distance which would be just outside of the county.

 

[mikewazowski]

A radio doesn't have to affiliate to be inhibited.

 

[com501]

A radio doesn't have to affiliate to be inhibited.

Which probably means the sysadmin knew it was missing......

 

[SCPD]

Where's the popcorn?

 

[gtaman]

A radio doesn't have to affiliate to be inhibited.

Wouldn't it have to be affiliating for the admin to see it. Unless he knew it was stolen already and sent the command before it was powerd on.

 

[gtaman]

Which probably means the sysadmin knew it was missing......

Probibly is what happend.

 

[bigbud42010]

No i was driving to the county from which it is from and it happened about halfway there and the radio was on they probably seen the radio id as unknown

 

[MTS2000des]

No i was driving to the county from which it is from and it happened about halfway there and the radio was on they probably seen the radio id as unknown

the ID has to register on the network to be inhibited.

Listen, ever heard the phrase "anything you say can or will be used against you?"

Do your self a favor, if the radio is not yours, turn it in. If someone has been playing around on a government radio network, it needs to stop. People have gone to prison for this.

 

[tsalmrsystemtech]

Good Luck people

Always use the Hidden Talkgroup Method and you will never affiliate or get your radio bricked and used as a paper weight

 

[kb0uxv]

That can be easier said than done, note at all the posts on p25.ca where people are screwing that "hidden method" / msys scan up and affiliating. There is a post about someone in the Houston area that put a EF Johnson radio on and caused all sorts of trouble to real users. The selfish and careless attitude about using real radios as scanners is an understandable frustration for those who administer and use radios on these systems.

 

[MTS2000des]

and that is what happens when people who are untrained, lack the knowledge and experience with these sophisticated radios and networks get ahold of "just enough to be dangerous" information and start putzing around.

 

[VE3RADIO]

I have to admit, I have seen a lot of poorly programmed radios out there. You really need to understand what your doing before attempting to do it.. that being said, there are lots of guys on P25.ca that can fix your radio... but I would still ensure it was not stolen first.

 

[N4DES]

and that is what happens when people who are untrained, lack the knowledge and experience with these sophisticated radios and networks get ahold of "just enough to be dangerous" information and start putzing around.

And then they cry in public forums when their high dollar Ebay purchase is made into a door stop and expect sympathy.

 

[tsalmrsystemtech]

Well people cry because they did not research and do their homework first. Programming a public safety radio is no joke and takes hundreds of hours and days and weeks and months to learn the CPS and APX software packages. Once you understand the concepts completely and The Hidden Talkgroup Method then you are Golden until the COWS come home.

Be careful with P25.ca website because if you are a newbieee and you want hand holding on this site you are going to the wrong place. Tread lightly on that site or they will kick you out and block your IP and you will never be-able to come back. But that site has alot of good info if this is your interest.

 

[tsalmrsystemtech]

That can be easier said than done, note at all the posts on p25.ca where people are screwing that "hidden method" / msys scan up and affiliating. There is a post about someone in the Houston area that put a EF Johnson radio on and caused all sorts of trouble to real users. The selfish and careless attitude about using real radios as scanners is an understandable frustration for those who administer and use radios on these systems.

16 conventionals personalities
16 talkgroups
16 scanlists

Per Zone = ""GOLDEN"

 

[SCPD]

Well if this is fact true, then you should of explained that in the FIRST place....We can't read your freakin mind.
If it isn't, good luck in getting it re-enabled. I inhibit radios weekly and refuse to turn them back on unless I get to see the radio in person and the users credentials.

Very good statement!!. Inhibit those bootleg radios to prevent them from screwing up the system. If you have to ask how to program a Moto, even for the hidden talkgroup method then you should NOT be programming radios.There is too much that could go wrong.

 

[tsalmrsystemtech]

Like another member said above

"Where is the Popcorn" anybody have anymore??

You are correct about if you have to ask then you should not be messing with a public safety radio.

But also if you don't know then you should study up and read and read and ask a few questions to senior leaders before you affiliate your radio up on a system and affiliate the number "1" and that is a RED FLAG to any ADMIN out there.

Good Luck Soldiers.

 

[gatekeep]

But also if you don't know then you should study up and read and read and ask a few questions to senior leaders before you affiliate your radio up on a system and affiliate the number "1" and that is a RED FLAG to any ADMIN out there.

To be frank, no one should program any radio up on a network they don't belong on, even for hidden talkgroup scan or not, for the amateur its just way too dangerous, and could cause more trouble/damage then its worth.

 

[tsalmrsystemtech]

To be frank, no one should program any radio up on a network they don't belong on, even for hidden talkgroup scan or not, for the amateur its just way too dangerous, and could cause more trouble/damage then its worth.

So your opinion is valued but what is the damage you are doing using "The Hidden Talkgroup Method"??

I think having a high end radio is worth it compared to these cheap radios that are made by GRE which the paint flies off the radio after programming it for the first time. Uniden is not any better and plus these companies are dead in the water with no new radios on the horizon so its time to move on to bigger and better if anybody wishes.
Its like driving your car over the speed limit, its against the law and could cause more harm and damage but do we all do it everyday and the answer is “YES”
Plus having a high end radio gives you the capacity of receiving multiple bands and several different modulations all in one radio if one wishes to spend the cash.
1. Dual bands
2. Type II and ASTRO P25 Phase I and II.
3. FDMA & X2 TDMA

 

[mikewazowski]

Since the OP has gotten his answer and the radio police have voiced their warnings, I'm closing the thread before it turns into another debate on the practice of programming unauthorized radios on trunking systems.