I know I will probably get a lot of grief for asking this, HOWEVER, I do own the sds100, I would really like to have a Motorola APX preferably the APX8000 (way out of budget) I'll settle for the APX900 (more within budget) I plan on doing this all legitimately. My question is. Is it possible to use the APX900 as a scanner? I plan on carrying it around everywhere.I appreciate how it is waterproof, the ruggedness,the look, the feel ,just everything about the Motorola is awesome to be frank. Please be nice. This is simply an inquiry.
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DeoVindice
P25 Underground
Are the systems you want to monitor conventional or trunked?
Understand as well that those are only single band radios. If all you want to "scan" is on one band, that's great.
Yes , I totally understand that it's completely different (and somewhat the same) than a scanner., I appreciate the response . Okay awesome
I realize that their is a whole lot of research that is involved. I just wanted to make sure it's possible.
I monitor both conventional, and trunked P25 1 & 2
By the letter of the law, not possible for trunking, which requires a system key to create a trunked system and modify parameters. You may be able to get away with scanning a Phase I FDMA system by using the default SysID 1, however that's not going to work for a Phase II TDMA system. The only legitimate way to obtain a system key for programming is to get the permission of the system admin, which seems unlikely.
For conventional stuff, knock yourself out, but probably best to stick with the scanner for trunking.
Waiting for our resident inventor and expert on all things NAS to chime in...
Asunakiyori
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conventional is the only RX only... trunked will always tx even if your arent hitting ptt.... its just data but thats a bad thing since then you associate... then the system admin sees unknown id and ohai paperweight
If done correctly, a radio setup for the so-called "non-affiliate scan" aka NAS (it's actually non-registration with modern P25 systems) will not transmit anything. That's kind of the whole point of setting it up that way, whereby the radio is parked on a conventional frequency and scans trunked talkgroups using a Multi-System Talkgroup or Intelligent Priority type scan list.
Mmmm. . . Interesting stuff.
Sounds like I have a lot to learn
Research. GOOD TIMES.
Thank you everyone! Now I know it's possible. 👍
YAY
I love Motorola ALWAYS HAVE
Sounds like I have a lot to learn
Research. GOOD TIMES.
Thank you everyone! Now I know it's possible. 👍
YAY
I love Motorola ALWAYS HAVE
Asunakiyori
Lurker
YOU SAID THE VERBOTEN WORD.... YOU HAVE INVOKED ELROY! EVERY ONE RUN
Lmao
Okay
Let's have it Elroy
Okay
Let's have it Elroy
One more thing , if no one minds. If anyone can refer somewhere I can purchase one. Not "flea bay" . Brand spanking new one.?
Once again, thank you everyone for the input! Much obliged
Once again, thank you everyone for the input! Much obliged
Asunakiyori
Lurker
a motorola dealer? .... I highly doubt a motodealer would sell a fully loaded TRS Flashcoded unit to a ham they don't want that flack....some "flea bay" units are brand new just never deployed I've had some luck with my 7k and my 4k both were brand new in the plastic packaging
Okay awesome . Thank you
Consider using a Harris radio instead. It's much easier to scan P25 systems with them, WITHOUT transmitting accidentally.
I'd recommend an XL200P if you have the budget for it. I can even assist in getting features and bands added to it, for a significant discount off of the retail price for those upgrades.
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I'd recommend an XL200P if you have the budget for it. I can even assist in getting features and bands added to it, for a significant discount off of the retail price for those upgrades.
I note that my fan club got here early.
DewAddict
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Second vote for Harris. I own an XG-100P and it's great. No worries of PTT or registration as long as you check the proper boxes in the RPM software. Wanting to upgrade to an XL-200 but I have been holding off since I hear different opinions on how the new RPM software works with "NAS." Moto "NAS" has a steep learning curve if you're completely brand new to programming it and it only takes one inadvertent registration attempt to really ruin your day. Just not worth the risk to me so I went the Harris route.
What would be the equivalent Harris radio for 700/800 NAS P25 P1 and P2 trunking? (sorry not trying to hijack the thread) Local agency has gone P25 and Unication G4 and BK KNG2-P800 dont decode as well as my SDS100. So looking at Harris now.
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