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Motorola Spectra Programming Trouble

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Ok, this is somewhat of an odd problem, but I will do my best to explain it. While reading this, keep in mind that I WAS able to program this Radio several times before, with the same equipment and cables and same setup.

I have a High powered Spectra with an A9 Head. One day I wanted to program the Radio, and every time I would get a "Serial Bus failure: Power fault" in the RSS. I checked multiple times with the cable and such and everything was fine. I checked the Diodes in the aftermarket RIB, and all was fine. Checked the cable and there were no breaks. The RED data light on the RIB blinked during the COM TEST in the RSS, but PROGRAMMING did not appear on the control head as usual.

Now only two variables changed from when programming did work, and didn't work (that I know of). One was recapping. HOWEVER, I did not recap everything. It was late so I only did 1 capacitor as a test. it was a capacitor on the PA board. Changed it and everything worked fine. The other thing was that I was in the Service Mode on the Radio once or twice (pressing HOME 5 times). I did not change anything in there.

There is one variable that I am not sure applies. I cannot remember if the last programming of the Radio was of adding the new DEK I bought. The DEK was plugged in at once when the radio as not programmed to have it, but that was until I programmed the code plug to add a DEK. I tried the programming with and without the DEK box attached and I still got the same error.

I thought it was a RIB, but the diodes tested fine. When testing the capacitors for a voltage reading, i touched the pads and fried the capacitor and who knows what else on the RIB. So i need to buy a new one. My question is, if I buy a new RIB and it still doesn't work, what the heck is wrong?

If it doesn't work, I am thinking the Radio, but it doesn't make much sense. When the RSS gives you a POWER FAULT error, does that mean it is even getting communication from the radio? If it does mean it isn't getting communication from the Radio, then I am thinking it isn't the Radio. EVERYTHING on the Radio works just fine. I even recapped everything, and the Radio works like it did before getting recapped, but still have the programming problem. I tried the programming after recapping EVERYTHING and still had the same error.

Anyone else have problems like this? Any help is appreciated! Thank You! :)
 

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I would place my money on bad capacitors inside. It's a problem with ALL analog spectras and it seems they are all going bad right about now. Get it fixed quick before the leaking substance destroys it.
 
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I would place my money on bad capacitors inside. It's a problem with ALL analog spectras and it seems they are all going bad right about now. Get it fixed quick before the leaking substance destroys it.

I replaced ALL CAPACITORS in the Radio. I have heard that the A9 head does NOT use the same type of capacitors as the other heads do. is this true? I never opened it up, the display is bright and all buttons work.
 
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Ok, this is somewhat of an odd problem, but I will do my best to explain it. While reading this, keep in mind that I WAS able to program this Radio several times before, with the same equipment and cables and same setup.

I have a High powered Spectra with an A9 Head. One day I wanted to program the Radio, and every time I would get a "Serial Bus failure: Power fault" in the RSS. I checked multiple times with the cable and such and everything was fine. I checked the Diodes in the aftermarket RIB, and all was fine. Checked the cable and there were no breaks. The RED data light on the RIB blinked during the COM TEST in the RSS, but PROGRAMMING did not appear on the control head as usual.

Now only two variables changed from when programming did work, and didn't work (that I know of). One was recapping. HOWEVER, I did not recap everything. It was late so I only did 1 capacitor as a test. it was a capacitor on the PA board. Changed it and everything worked fine. The other thing was that I was in the Service Mode on the Radio once or twice (pressing HOME 5 times). I did not change anything in there.

There is one variable that I am not sure applies. I cannot remember if the last programming of the Radio was of adding the new DEK I bought. The DEK was plugged in at once when the radio as not programmed to have it, but that was until I programmed the code plug to add a DEK. I tried the programming with and without the DEK box attached and I still got the same error.

I thought it was a RIB, but the diodes tested fine. When testing the capacitors for a voltage reading, i touched the pads and fried the capacitor and who knows what else on the RIB. So i need to buy a new one. My question is, if I buy a new RIB and it still doesn't work, what the heck is wrong?

If it doesn't work, I am thinking the Radio, but it doesn't make much sense. When the RSS gives you a POWER FAULT error, does that mean it is even getting communication from the radio? If it does mean it isn't getting communication from the Radio, then I am thinking it isn't the Radio. EVERYTHING on the Radio works just fine. I even recapped everything, and the Radio works like it did before getting recapped, but still have the programming problem. I tried the programming after recapping EVERYTHING and still had the same error.

Anyone else have problems like this? Any help is appreciated! Thank You! :)

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Problem SOLVED!!!

UPDATE: Well, i bought another RIB (Same RIB and same seller as the one that died) and it works. The Radio programs, reads and writes! :D

So I thought about what the heck went wrong in the RIB and I came up with two things.

ONE: The double power source, having the Spectra Power the RIB AND the 9 Volt battery.
TWO: Me not doing the correct plugging in of the cables. Sometimes I plugged and unplugged the RIB from the Spectra while the spectra was on or plugged in main power. That could have caused a voltage spike and did something to the RIB possibly. So Now I always do the correct sequence.

Sorry for bugging you about a problem that was easily fixable. But I hope this helps others if they have the same problem.

Thanks for all of the help and info. I really appreciate it! :)
 
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One always learns from their errs. I smoked a RIB once. Haven't done it since!

Ya, it was a sigh of relief! I was thinking "I just recapped this thing, and if this new RIB doesn't work, I got to get a New Radio".

LUCKILY, If it did come down to that, I found just the Remote Radio Mount (High power) with the exact same Model number (with no MLM) for $50 shipped.

So At least I had a back up, but I am glad I didn't have to do that.

Well, I guess we learn from our mistakes. At least I only lost out on $25, rather than the whole radio.

Now off to get a PA and another DEK! :)

Btw, a little off topic, but I pulled a HLN6000B Board from my Radio with one DVP-XL Hybrid. Anyone know how much I could get for it used (or what you would pay for it)?
 
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