gmason5298
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It seems I no longer get MSP communications. Does anyone know why?
MSP went away
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What county are you in?
freqs
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Detroit Post have gone Encrypted so far .
is the rest of the State following .
is the rest of the State following .
jerryleebutler
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It wouldn't be too much of a surprise. Although where I live, MSP uses our county Dispatch and LEIN for the lion's share of their traffic. To my knowledge, the only time I heard MSP District 1 on their channels is when they do check in's and check outs.
Basically the only place MSP dispatches itself is in Wayne, Oakland & Macomb counties (District 2). That’s now encrypted. Everywhere else in the state they’re dispatched by the county and whether that’s encrypted depends on the county. Since there are many states beginning with the letter “M”, this post is in reference to Michigan.
jerryleebutler
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Yeah I know. I was referring to Michigan. I live in the District 1 area for Michigan State Police.
Im reprogramming my scanner now, I had to renew my membership and was wondering about MSP, then i saw this post.
I knew good things would come to end. Between stupid scanner apps and Facebook groups. Well, it will be last time paying the premium membership fee.
I knew good things would come to end. Between stupid scanner apps and Facebook groups. Well, it will be last time paying the premium membership fee.
kd8ati
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Scanner apps and FB groups are playing a minimal role in this shift towards encryption. A lot of the departments are going encrypted due to new FBI CJIS requirements that require any personally identifiable information be encrypted. Some departments are creating a "LEIN" talkgroup to run plates and people on, but that only works well for your county dispatches and the larger departments. It does not make sense operationally for smaller departments to do that.
freqs
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yea Macomb County as well .MSP with Patrol area in the county use Sherrif Talkgroups.
I know District 3 is clear as of Yesterday . just was wondering if its a plan for all of MSP to Encrypt
Why can't you continue to pay for a premium membership?
I live in a semi rural area. MSP and few county sheriffs was my go too. Scanner is almost a paperweight now. Why keep paying for nothing. Unless you have a solution. I'm just glad I didn't upgrade to the SDS200 last month, went on a camping trip instead.
I kind of disagree. Nowadays every unemployed bum can tune into a scanner app to commit crimes, show up to police scenes, etc.. Look up Frauditors on Youtube. Every scanner app need to go bye bye. Unless its a paid subscription ($100/year)
jerryleebutler
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Hard to say but, it wouldn't take much for it to happen. I know on the other side of the border in Ohio, there are some state agencies who have been encrypting.
Jerry
The scanner / scanning hobby is what you make of it. My local LEOs flipped the "E" switch years ago. Thankfully my fire & EMS are still clear. Just need to find other things to listen to to keep the hobby interesting: aircraft, rail, amateur radio, etc. If those don't interest you, sell your scanner(s) and move onto something else...
Well you didn't have to renew it. If it no longer benefits you, stop paying. Not rocket science
RR's is $30 a year, where were you paying $100 & for what?
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+1. My local department (PD & FD) and numerous surrounding departments have gone "E" in the past several years. I simply went back to monitoring aircraft/rail/amateur/business band comms. Honestly, aircraft comms are far more relaxing to listen to.
Don't overlook searching through the business/itinerant/GMRS/FRS frequencies. They are a bit like the wild west and almost anything can pop up here. There is also an active thread on "pirates/bootleggers" operating in the UHF Federal band.
Federal bootleggers (was 407.400)
Nothing to do with federal monitoring, other than this was in the federal band. :p Heard a couple of guys on 407.400 analog, no PL. Listened a little while and it was a tower crew. Never can tell what you'll hear and where you'll hear it.
Reception of distant stations is possible in the VHF-low range (30 - 50 MHz) when the band is open.
2025 VHF Low Band Logs
There are plenty of things left to listen to.
jerryleebutler
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Where I am, I have Marine, Air, occasionally Amateur Radio & Rail to play with. Don't really play with Public Safety very much.+1. My local department (PD & FD) and numerous surrounding departments have gone "E" in the past several years. I simply went back to monitoring aircraft/rail/amateur/business band comms. Honestly, aircraft comms are far more relaxing to listen to.
Don't overlook searching through the business/itinerant/GMRS/FRS frequencies. They are a bit like the wild west and almost anything can pop up here. There is also an active thread on "pirates/bootleggers" operating in the UHF Federal band.
Federal bootleggers (was 407.400)
Nothing to do with federal monitoring, other than this was in the federal band. :p Heard a couple of guys on 407.400 analog, no PL. Listened a little while and it was a tower crew. Never can tell what you'll hear and where you'll hear it.forums.radioreference.com
Reception of distant stations is possible in the VHF-low range (30 - 50 MHz) when the band is open.
2025 VHF Low Band Logs
There are plenty of things left to listen to.
Jerry
Only basic solution I found, like others have said. I just had to expand my listening " freqs.
Seeing that people like to talk, I decided to add:
Hospital / Railroad security
Consumers road crews
County road crews
Casino security
Some EMS
Wild cards
Special events
School security
At the scanner is more active now.
Seeing that people like to talk, I decided to add:
Hospital / Railroad security
Consumers road crews
County road crews
Casino security
Some EMS
Wild cards
Special events
School security
At the scanner is more active now.
@bailagent67 There is luckily not too much encryption being used in Mid-MI.
Isabella imho has the the most DMR/Mototrbo radio percentage wise of any county in the state. A matter of getting a scanner capable of that, your whistler/ radio shack cant.
Current Unidens, minus home patrol II with a paid upgrade can.
Maybe thinking those that use Mototrbo are encrypted, since many agencies use that?
Under MODE if it’s FMN it can be heard, DMR is Mototrbo and DMRE is encrypted.
Soaring Eagle is on motorbo, but are all encrypted.
Isabella police/jail are in the clear, county fire/casino fd - pd is, CMU PD as well. Mt, Pleasant fire still uses DMR/Mototrbo so you would need a scanner capable of that, along with a few fire stations proprietaries.
Road commission also Mototrbo, but are are... E! Police do and always have had one E tac talkgroup.
Midland city county PD are E, but rest of 911 in the clear.
Montcalm is in the clear, but PD soon will be E.
Clare, Gratiot, Mecosta, Osceola everything is in the clear. Gratiot road commission is Mototrbo, but are .... E!
Gladwin all are in the clear as they are still all analog.
Most schools are mototrbo.
Anyways there is a ton to tune in.
An SDS200 out your way is overkill since the selling point is to work in simulcast areas and closest would be Midland and Saginaw.
Also 145.150 is extremely chatty.
Isabella imho has the the most DMR/Mototrbo radio percentage wise of any county in the state. A matter of getting a scanner capable of that, your whistler/ radio shack cant.
Current Unidens, minus home patrol II with a paid upgrade can.
Maybe thinking those that use Mototrbo are encrypted, since many agencies use that?
Isabella County, Michigan (MI) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference
Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference for Isabella County, Michigan (MI)
www.radioreference.com
Isabella County, Michigan (MI) Trunked Systems
All Trunked Radio Systems in Isabella County, Michigan (MI)
www.radioreference.com
Soaring Eagle is on motorbo, but are all encrypted.
Isabella police/jail are in the clear, county fire/casino fd - pd is, CMU PD as well. Mt, Pleasant fire still uses DMR/Mototrbo so you would need a scanner capable of that, along with a few fire stations proprietaries.
Road commission also Mototrbo, but are are... E!
Police do and always have had one E tac talkgroup.Midland city county PD are E, but rest of 911 in the clear.
Montcalm is in the clear, but PD soon will be E.
Clare, Gratiot, Mecosta, Osceola everything is in the clear. Gratiot road commission is Mototrbo, but are .... E!
Gladwin all are in the clear as they are still all analog.
Most schools are mototrbo.
Anyways there is a ton to tune in.
An SDS200 out your way is overkill since the selling point is to work in simulcast areas and closest would be Midland and Saginaw.
Also 145.150 is extremely chatty.
What would be a good upgraded scanner?
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