Nashua, NH - Nashua considers bonding for $6 million radio system upgrade

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I'm not 100% sure, but I believe so.

Was looking around and Pinellas is running Phase 1 and the owner has the same scanner so it would work. I'm hoping LEO uses no encryption. Or if they will probably use few TG channels doubt all because it will be a sad day for listeners.
 
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Based on the CC in use for the "NEW" P25 TRS - they will stay 800 and you will see a slow migration of the current Frequencies being moved over to the new System

Are they staying with a 800mhz TRS utilizing the same freq's or going to another band?
 

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Does anyone know if they fully switched over? Scanner has been quiet since this early afternoon. Only thing being said was the time sometimes not. If they did anyone have the new frequencies? Edit: It's Fire side PD side is fine
 

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Does anyone know if they fully switched over? Scanner has been quiet since this early afternoon. Only thing being said was the time sometimes not. If they did anyone have the new frequencies? Edit: It's Fire side PD side is fine

As of today Nashua has not switched over and will not be a bit longer. Installs and some testing is still in progress. They will be remaining on 800 MHz.
 

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I own BCD996XT and BCD996T would I have to upgrade to the home patrol in order to hear?

Get use to it. Just about all of the older radio systems around the country are either at end of life or have since passed the end of support. It doesn't matter what company made it. I know of a few radio systems that are being maintained by buying parts off the Internet. That is not what I call good support for a public radio system.

It takes some real talent to keep an older radio system on the air. But there comes a time when your better off putting the older gear out to pasture and up grading the equipment. What it costs is how good you write the specs and how hard you beat up on the vendors to get a good price. That's where the use of a GOOD radio system consultant can make this happen at a reasonable cost. There are consultants out there that don't do a very good job and cause radio systems to have high costs.

The real cost comes in installing the controlling computer switch for a trunking system. If you can work with another agency, you can save a pile of money. But you also need to work out a good sharing of the costs and maintenance of the switch for the sharing to work.

You can look at 2 statewide systems where the state is currently supporting all the user cost for the switch. How the user radio costs are done might change in the future. The state of Louisiana and Mississippi both have a statewide trunking systems. I believe that Louisiana is one of the largest statewide user systems in the country. The Mississippi system seems to have politics getting in the way and time will show what their outcome will be. You can take a mobile or portable in Louisiana and be able to talk back to your dispatch from just about any place in the state that has radio coverage.

If Nashua is going to share the switch with Manchester, then they both will make out on the project. They both just need to work through the politics and come up with a plan to make it work, if that's the direction they are headed in.
 

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Seems they have been slowly migrating the Municipal Svcs first before moving the PD and FD over...the NEW system is slowly getting more activity :cool:

Does anyone know if they fully switched over? Scanner has been quiet since this early afternoon. Only thing being said was the time sometimes not. If they did anyone have the new frequencies? Edit: It's Fire side PD side is fine
 

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Its been 3 months is it still in the testing phase IE Public Works? Or has it moved in the emergency area?
 

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I just uploaded from ARC software the new freq and still quiet.
 

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Someone needs to upload the new talkgroups to broadcastify because I have no idea on how to input that in.
 

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I'm sure someone will, as they get Found, Verified and then submitted

Since it is a NEW system, it will take time to make accurate submissions

Someone needs to upload the new talkgroups to broadcastify because I have no idea on how to input that in.
 

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You're saying NPD has switched over already and NFR is expected to move on Wednesday? I have already been listening to public works and the city buses on the new system using my 396xt handheld. I was listening to NPD on the old 800 system over the weekend. I didn't try to listen to NPD at all yesterday (Monday). I'll find out tonight when I get home from work.

The new TGs should be the old TG decimal number divided by 16. Buses previously were on 16784 on the old system and are now on 1049 on the new system. (16784 / 16 = 1049)

I would expect NPD TAC-1 to be on 49168 / 16 = 3073
NFR 32784 on the old system should be 2049 on the new system.
 

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You're saying NPD has switched over already and NFR is expected to move on Wednesday? I have already been listening to public works and the city buses on the new system using my 396xt handheld. I was listening to NPD on the old 800 system over the weekend. I didn't try to listen to NPD at all yesterday (Monday). I'll find out tonight when I get home from work.

The new TGs should be the old TG decimal number divided by 16. Buses previously were on 16784 on the old system and are now on 1049 on the new system. (16784 / 16 = 1049)

I would expect NPD TAC-1 to be on 49168 / 16 = 3073
NFR 32784 on the old system should be 2049 on the new system.

Yup I have confirmed 3073 is PD TAC 1 Now just need to confirm the other PD Tac Channels and FD should be tomorrow as bill said. So PD TAC 2 should be 49200 /16 = 3075
 

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Yup I have confirmed 3073 is PD TAC 1 Now just need to confirm the other PD Tac Channels and FD should be tomorrow as bill said. So PD TAC 2 should be 49200 /16 = 3075
Confirming your confirmation.... Heard NPD TAC 1 on 3073 tonight. It's interesting to witness the switchover as it takes place.


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Did NFR make the switch today as planned?? I haven't been able to listen yet. Also, when the switchover happens, is it just a matter of telling everybody to switch over to a new zone already programmed into their radios? If not, are the TGs on the new system (ID 5C6) patched to the corresponding TGs on the old system (ID 7C25) while radios are being reprogrammed or swapped out?

I witnessed the rebanding of the old system as it happened. I also recall the migration from the legacy conventional analog systems over to the now "old" 800 system when it was new back in 2001.

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Anyone confirm Nashua Fire's TG? I have the new ones in and they are not working.
 

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Do I need to program a new TRS in my pro-106/197 to listen to the new system or can I modify the existing one? Thanks in advance...

Yes you need to program in the new talk group and frequencies in. The TG's I have are not working.
 
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