New City of Milwaukee radio system

[ofd8001]

Multi-band radios would be a possible solution. If they run out of range, they could switch over to a WISCOM channel and communicate with locals/staties.

That said, many responders are loath to go away from their usual channels. Whether its because of policies or a failure to think, its hard to say. I know our local firefighters will tell their dispatcher to have the ambulance bring a piece of equipment when the ambulance arrives. So the fire dispatcher has to tell the ambulance dispatcher and so on. Why the heck the firefighter won't twist the channel knob and tell the ambulance directly, beats me.

Then a while back, I was listening to a police chase go into an adjacent county. They were getting out of range and things got hectic. However, the radio system extended coverage into the adjacent county for just that kind of situation. Only thing the cops had to do was switch to another channel. Not thinking or not knowing or getting caught up in the moment.

 

[CrabbyMilton]

Much the same way MCTS drivers can't talk to each other directly or talk directly to a nearby route supervisor. There are situations where such availability would be ideal rather than having to go thru the dispatcher often delaying things.

 

[19-685]

License for new P25 Phase II System just released today 07/24/2023

City of Milwaukee
Callsign WRYC386
Transmitter locations

• 764 North Broadway
• 9200 West Wisconsin Avenue
• 4733 West Vliet Street
• 626 East North Avenue
• 3626 West Fond Du Lac Avenue

Frequencies
769.29375
769.54375
769.78125
770.31875
770.76875
771.49375
771.93125
773.41875
773.91875
774.91875

ULS License - Trunked Public Safety 700 MHz License - WRYC386 - CITY OF MILWAUKEE

 

[19-685]

Additional Pending Sites

• 7402 W. Peutz Road
• 8775 W. Waterford Avenue (Greenfield)
• 4001 South 6th Street
• 2900 West Oklahoma Avenue
• 245 West Lincoln Avenue
• 8814 West Lisbon Avenue
• 6201 North 76th Street
• 6680 North Teutonia Avenue
• 8463 North Granville Road

 

[19-685]

System will be a Harris P-25 Phase II system, so all frequencies will be available as control channel.

 

[ctadam12]

License for new P25 Phase II System just released today 07/24/2023

City of Milwaukee
Callsign WRYC386
Transmitter locations

• 764 North Broadway
• 9200 West Wisconsin Avenue
• 4733 West Vliet Street
• 626 East North Avenue
• 3626 West Fond Du Lac Avenue

Frequencies
769.29375
769.54375
769.78125
770.31875
770.76875
771.49375
771.93125
773.41875
773.91875
774.91875

ULS License - Trunked Public Safety 700 MHz License - WRYC386 - CITY OF MILWAUKEE

Is 764 N Broadway the old BMO tower, or what Google Maps is actually placing the address at, the little building? lol

 

[MarcusDude]

Here's a map I made. There are 3 different types of sites: the ones that are ONLY part of the Open Sky system, the one that is ONLY part of the new P25 system, and sites that are used by both systems. Click on the dots (sites) on the map for more info. Map at: Interactive Legend

 

[evilbrad]

what is known on enc on any or all tgs. plans

 

[19-685]

what is known on enc on any or all tgs. plans

See Original Post # 1 in this thread for the Request for Proposals.
Page 18 outlines subscriber unit requirements.

 

[19-685]

See also Post # 15 and # 16

 

[prowisscan]

It seems to be alive. I am seeing an active control channel on 770.31875 with a system ID of 293. I only have a p25 type I scanner, so may not able to monitor for talk groups.

 

[19-685]

Talkgroup, 2001 MWFD Dispatch, is active with sporadic transmissions as of 11-Dec-2023

 

[19-685]

PRO96COM showing the following active control channels and alternate control channels as of 11-Dec-2023

System info reporting as follows:

System ID is 041 (not 293 as previously reported)

System NAC is 293

WACN is 00001

Tower Number (Decimal) is 30-30
Tower Number (Hex) is 1E1E
Flavor is Phase 2

-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
00,769.00625,0.00625,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
08,769.00625,0.00625,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2

770.31875 - primary control channel
771.49375 - alternate control channel
773.41875 - alternate control channel

 

[19-685]

On-demand patches are also showing up...

 

[Trunktrunk247]

Talkgroup, 2001 MWFD Dispatch, is active with sporadic transmissions as of 11-Dec-2023

It’s probably sporadic if there aren’t many radios registered to the network yet. If there are no radios registered the system shouldn’t transmit voice traffic as there is no demand for it.

 

[Paul-W]

I have a Uniden 996 P2 and I am trying to program this new system in to this scanner. I tried entering the frequencies and it will not accept them as listed. Do I need to change the band plan settings to make it work? If anybody has insights on how I can get this to work, I would appreciate any insights and advice. Thanks.

 

[19-685]

The system is in the VERY EARLY stages of implementation and roll out.

Program as a P-25 trunked system.
No band plan settings are needed to make it work.

770.31875 - primary control channel
771.49375 - alternate control channel
773.41875 - alternate control channel

Enter the complete frequency with all five (5) digits to the right of the decimal point.

The 996P2 will round the frequencies to four (4) decimal places, so the system frequencies will appear a bit differently as shown below.

774.9187
773.9187
773.4187
771.9312
771.4937
770.7687
770.3187
769.7812
769.5437
769.2937

My personal preference is to program the SITE HOLD setting to 2 seconds. Seems to allow the scanner to "settle down" on the control channel and follow trunked systems (especially P-25) a lot better. Also a talkgroup delay of the default "2 seconds" is recommended.

Again, the system is just getting implemented, so there may be times when it is turned completely off as the techs get things adjusted, aligned, programmed, and troubleshot.

Hope this helps!

 

[CrabbyMilton]

I just programmed it and put it in search. MFD main comes up perfectly clear with no choppy distortions as it does on OASSIS at times. There were some that contended that this new system would not be able to be monitored on a 436. Thought I would try anyway and lo and behold…

 

[Paul-W]

The system is in the VERY EARLY stages of implementation and roll out.

Program as a P-25 trunked system.
No band plan settings are needed to make it work.

770.31875 - primary control channel
771.49375 - alternate control channel
773.41875 - alternate control channel

Enter the complete frequency with all five (5) digits to the right of the decimal point.

The 996P2 will round the frequencies to four (4) decimal places, so the system frequencies will appear a bit differently as shown below.

774.9187
773.9187
773.4187
771.9312
771.4937
770.7687
770.3187
769.7812
769.5437
769.2937

My personal preference is to program the SITE HOLD setting to 2 seconds. Seems to allow the scanner to "settle down" on the control channel and follow trunked systems (especially P-25) a lot better. Also a talkgroup delay of the default "2 seconds" is recommended.

Again, the system is just getting implemented, so there may be times when it is turned completely off as the techs get things adjusted, aligned, programmed, and troubleshot.

Hope this helps!

I just reprogrammed my scanner using your information and it now works. Thanks for the info and advice.

 

[box23]

I just programmed it and put it in search. MFD main comes up perfectly clear with no choppy distortions as it does on OASSIS at times. There were some that contended that this new system would not be able to be monitored on a 436. Thought I would try anyway and lo and behold…

If by distortions you mean the issues with monitoring a simulcast cell with a receiver not designed to do so, the likelihood of all of the known subsites as reported above being fully online is quite possibly approaching zero. I am sure that will change as the system gets built out fully.