richee2000
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with new providence, millburn, springfield , summit, etc, going to NJICS, this could be true.
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with new providence, millburn, springfield , summit, etc, going to NJICS, this could be true.
Just for everyone's info, I am showing pretty much everyone being denied on that site with the exception of MedCentral, New Brunswick Fire and Rutgers.
NJ Park Police, NJSP, NJ Transit, JFK EMS, Somerset Road and anything from Union County all denied
NJ Park Police, NJSP, NJ Transit, JFK EMS, Somerset Road and anything from Union County all denied
This may not be any revelation, but I've been away. Rahway EMS has been operating on County EMS Dispatch the last couple days. Not sure if they were just mutual aid runs or if this is a switch.
As to Mountainside, it's not on the air as far as I know. I'll take a ride past the tower tonight. But I was under the impression, possibly easily mistaken, it was to be the 4th site in the Union County Simulcast and there would be a capacity increase. Is it now definitely to be part of Rutgers?
As to Mountainside, it's not on the air as far as I know. I'll take a ride past the tower tonight. But I was under the impression, possibly easily mistaken, it was to be the 4th site in the Union County Simulcast and there would be a capacity increase. Is it now definitely to be part of Rutgers?
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Union County Simulcast, TG4809, in the clear. No RID decoded.
Thanks R60. I was going to use it to get around my better half's sugar ban, so I'll probably drive past anyway. 
According to the latest site map update I made back in 2017, both Mountainside and Watchung are shown as part of the Union County cell. If we go back a number of years, we showed Watchung as originally being part of the West Orange cell, and at some point around 2015 it was made part of the Union County cell.
Take a look at the latest version of the site map and let's see if we can figure out if it needs adjusting. I know that Pluckemin was never added, and frankly I'm not entirely sure that all of the various simulcast cell subsites are accurate. I suppose we can only do the best we can with them, having no FCC licenses to go by.
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GTR8000 your on target. I have seen first hand over the years. Regarding the site map I think it is reasonably solid for now. I spent some time recently on site 60 and that is accurate. Stand alone by affiliation only. I think it is at Vollers Tower not at DOT yard BTW. MY .02 stand pat and let’s see what develops.
Incidentally, I lost the original file I was using for that wiki map, so I'd have to recreate it from scratch if I were to update it. In the meanwhile, I have made one in Google Maps that might be of use. Note that some of the locations, in particular the simulcast subsites, are ballpark guesses and likely not the actual locations of the transmitters.
I'm open to anyone who has more accurate information on site locations. Most of the standalone sites should be accurate at this point, but the simulcasts are questionable in some cases.
I'm open to anyone who has more accurate information on site locations. Most of the standalone sites should be accurate at this point, but the simulcasts are questionable in some cases.
If it’s the Mountainside site, it should be the tower at the end of Prospect Ave of Summit Rd between 22 and 78. The Watchung site is 455 Johnston Dr way more to the southwest...which is why I never understood it being originally part of the West Orange simulcast. Mountainside gets out...should have no problem getting it even up into Morris on a portable.
Let me reach out to my contacts and see where that site is actually hanging off of. If its part of the Union Co Simulcast or another...
40°41'24.5"N 74°21'22.2"W to be exact, right next to the water tower.
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That's what I thought. However, I was also under the impression that when it was all said and done, at least in the County's head, Plainfield (Muhlenburg Hospital) was going to be back online and the original 4-site plan (for lack of better words at this hour) from the EDACS system would be back in place.
Obviously R60 is correct and this is all an observe and report operation. Am I not following though? Is there another new site y'all are trying to pin down?
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Rutgers Site 29 is now Site 8, and went from a standalone (C4FM) site to a simulcast cell (LSM). According to Scott's source, in addition to the existing Clothier Hall subsite, there is now a subsite of Site 8 at Mountainside.
This would mean that both the Site 7 and Site 8 cells have a subsite at Mountainside.
Wow, I definitely need sleep. That's where I was confused, cause they've been working up at Mountainside and I thought you were talking about the work Union County has been doing on the simulcast for capacity reasons.
I can definitely tell you there is new equipment up there, has been for a while now. I had no idea what it was for since I didn't take that close of a look, but it would make sense. If I recall correctly what was added to the mast was a CommScope 85-degree 15dBi polarized panel, and was shooting SW/SSW. I'll make the walk on the Sierra Trail tomorrow and snap some pics.
In the ULS database WPTZ794 does have a application 0008679755 entered on 6/5/19 that has 3 attachments that might be useful.
Eh, those attachments were recycled from their 2014 filing, and haven't been updated much (if at all). Take them with a grain of salt, there is clearly outdated info contained within if you compare it with what we know about the system today. They still refer to the Rutgers site as "Site 29 - New Brunswick" which is clearly not current data.
This is good info, and definitely supports the idea of a Site 8 subsite coexisting with a Site 7 subsite up there.
I made the short 3/4mi round trip walk up the public trail this afternoon to the Mountainside site. The CommScope panel is no longer on the tower (it has been about 9mo since I was last up there), but there is one new parabolic which appears to be in service on the Union County Simulcast based on it's orientation. Also appears UCFMA has a new Stationmaster in service. Attached are photos from the SSE and S/SSW side of the tower. Conclude what you can from them.
What's interesting though is I was receiving Site 8 up there clear as day, 5x5, easily S9+15 on a rubber duck portable. That, however, could be also cause there's basically no obstacles towards New Brunswick from that vantage point.
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