OFFICIAL NYSEG P25 System Thread

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rbm

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Heard a lot of idle chatter on the local CC here in Putman county today. Two guys following their GPS's to a tower site.

I often hear the same activity around the Binghamton area on talk group '65530'. Did you notice if that was the same talk group?

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Same T/G here, 65530. Still can't believe these guys gave out the combination to the gate lock. Either very trusting or they don't think anyone can hear the digital comms.

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Same T/G here, 65530. Still can't believe these guys gave out the combination to the gate lock. Either very trusting or they don't think anyone can hear the digital comms.

Bob


Discretion in what you hear and what you post would be an excellent quaility of a scanner user. Things like this are sometimes best kept to yourself. You don't make friends by possibly jamming someone up. This is one of those instances in which why employee's do not like to share information. Just ask the railroad workers who get jammed up by people posting pics or information that a nice employee gave them...only to have a boss find out about it and bring them up on company charges.

As far as the combo itself, for most sites it is for a vehicle gate and not into the shelter itself. Anyone with a standard pair of bolt cutters can get thru the gate/chain/rope lock. The Shelter has anti-pry hardware and unless your brining in heavy equipment (to steal what, a couple of radios?) its not worth the effort.

Should you be able to open the door, then you would be setting off a commerical burg alarm as well as an instant alarm thru the SCADA system.
 

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Points well taken, but you ARE aware that those comms were heard at the call center? Its not like I'm listening to an encrypted communication. I am aware of the communications act of 1934, but wasn't there a thread right here on RR titled "whats the funniest thing you heard on the air?" I did not ( and will not) give out the lock combination. I did give the site location, only because some on this site thought the location was Mt Ninham, and that turns out to be incorrect.

Didn't mean to ruffle anyones feathers.

73,
bob
 
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The radio shop guys in the Albany area seem to use 65530 as a private chit-chat channel. I have heard lengthy conversations about tower sites, movies, restaurants, vacation plans, etc.
 

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Points well taken, but you ARE aware that those comms were heard at the call center? Its not like I'm listening to an encrypted communication. I am aware of the communications act of 1934, but wasn't there a thread right here on RR titled "whats the funniest thing you heard on the air?" I did not ( and will not) give out the lock combination. I did give the site location, only because some on this site thought the location was Mt Ninham, and that turns out to be incorrect.

Didn't mean to ruffle anyones feathers.

73,
bob

Not every talkgroup is actually monitored at call centers, or any dispatch center for that matter. There just isn't that many free resources or people available to monitor all the communications that could be going on. Now, a NOC would be a different matter, as all talkgroups can be monitored if needed. Most computer/display consoles are setup like the legecy ones...only the important ones are on the screen. It is possible depending on company/county/city police that all are there, but will be muted unless there is a need to listen on it. There is simply just too much audio to listen to.

My point on the other post, is that no one really cares about the 1934 act, or what you hear or tell people. What employee's get ticked off at, and will be less likely to share information with scanner heads is that their boss read on an internet forum that Joe D and Rob R said XYZ that may have been a violation of company policy or whatnot. Word gets out quickly that a scanner nut heard it on the air, posted it on a forum and Manager Rick happened to be searching on Google about something and came across it.

Now Manager Rick is dishing out discipline to Joe and Rob. Joe and Rob tells everyone they know about what happened.

Scanner nut George now see's a NYSEG crew. George asks them about the new radios. NYSEG crew basically threatens to drop a primary line on them as they don't want to get jackpoted because Crew #2 told George something and George goes and posts the information which the crew gave him to be nice.

Catch the drift?
 

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PJH

I understand 110% what your talking about.I dont know why so many cant understand the concept.If you go around telling everyone what u hear that further tells me as a public safety user I need to secure my Freqs
 
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Securing of communications does not require encryption. It requires policies, training, and enforcement of policies.

There is a widely monitored illegal repeater in the Capital District on 158.400 MHz that nobody has been able to identify. Part of the reason is that its users, who are not public safety entities, are extremely careful about what they say on the radio. No names, no locations, no callsigns. They would make a military opsec commander proud.

Other radio users can do the same if they really want to be bothered.
 

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Hey guys,

I'm over here in Belleville, ON and with the recent conditions, I've been able to pick up one of the control channels.

152.8025

And it's giving me the following information.

I haven't a clue about NY State and locations etc...

But this control channel is telling me this.

0296H-0132

Hope this helps.
 
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DaveNF2G

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Then there are two possibilities:

1) You have picked up Site 132 of NYSEG and misread the SysID from your display.

2) You have picked up a different VHF P25 system.
 

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any1 know what area i should program into my scanner? i'm located in the lower ny area. (nyc)
 
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DaveNF2G

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NY P25 0269 has information for all known sites. With that and a map, you should be able to figure out which sites and talkgroups you need.
 

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Nyseg

Just picked up a new talk group--- #133---Same people talking on it as #131. #131 is the electric repair people that cover Putnam and northern Westchester counties. I guess that they now have 2 different talk groups---possibly for extra capacity ???



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NYSEG help

I just upgraded my scanner to an BCD996T I'm having trouble programming the NYSEG system. I downloaded the copy of the 48 NYSEG CCs usd file posted by rbm. I have located a strong signal cc site 0269H-132 152.8025 but when scanning through the 48 NYSEG CCs bank I'm not hearing any activity on my scanner. Do you have to have the scanner set to control channel only?
 

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Try putting the scanner into talkgroup scan mode. If its the same as my model Uniden...you can just press the search button once. This will stop on every talkgroup it hears...otherwise it will only look for the talkgroups you have programmed into the scanner.

Also....remember...these work like SmartZone systems. If there are no radios affialted to the tower with a talkgroup your scanning..then you will won't hear anything.
 

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How do you have NYSEG set up in your BCD396XT ??

Hi All,
This thread has been quiet for a while, so I thought I'd ask. My set up is simple: Loaded all the control channels, with tags of locations (that we know, Thanks Dave!) and have it set to ID search. It's nice to be able to listen anywhere in the state. I'm wondering if anyone is aware of NYSEG changing control frequencies.

I'm located in the Hudson Valley of NY & can only hear 2 CC's, 152.8025 and 152.2175, Using an outdoor antenna fed with LMR400UF.

So, how is NYSEG set up in your 396XY ??

73,
bob
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I have NYSEG set up in both my PSR 600 and my 396T to receive all control channels. I only get one here in Carmel, and that's 152.2175 which is the Brewster location. Depending upon where you are, listen carefully to what talkgroup pops up with what control channel.
 
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