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P25T Encryption Issues

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Well looks like I am SOL on both my pagers. Hardware in one is Basic(built in Bluetooth) and the other is SAW filter.
 
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VK7GOP said:
In the Unication Programming software 'Create New Profile' page it tells you what Hardware your device uses - Version B is 'G5N'
As above V2.04 is only compatible with Version B at present
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AES 256 did work with FW V2.04 on Version B Hardware
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not anymore!
 
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VK7GOP said:
In the Unication Programming software 'Create New Profile' page it tells you what Hardware your device uses - Version B is 'G5N'
As above V2.04 is only compatible with Version B at present
View attachment 196138


AES 256 did work with FW V2.04 on Version B Hardware
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So AES 256 does or does not work on P25 Phase II with FW V2.04 on Version B hardware?
 
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We tested trying to get the pagers to reliably decode ADP on a Motorola Phase 2 system for about six months and finally after many back and forth attempts Unication gave up and said we needed a higher signal strength. It is clear about 70% of the time and the rest is garbled. Unication support suggested we only use our pagers outside. This is a system of over 250 pagers in an active volunteer firefighter service. For what it's worth the signal strength indicator on the screen is NOT an accurate representation of the actual signal strength you are receiving. Our radios.do not have AES capability so we never made it that far in testing.
 
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estone4009 said:
We tested trying to get the pagers to reliably decode ADP on a Motorola Phase 2 system for about six months and finally after many back and forth attempts Unication gave up and said we needed a higher signal strength. It is clear about 70% of the time and the rest is garbled. Unication support suggested we only use our pagers outside. This is a system of over 250 pagers in an active volunteer firefighter service. For what it's worth the signal strength indicator on the screen is NOT an accurate representation of the actual signal strength you are receiving. Our radios.do not have AES capability so we never made it that far in test.
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Interesting in a very bad way.
 
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VK7GOP said:
It did work when tested late last year.
P25 Trunked Phase II system, tested with multiple keys.
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I am sitting in a system where it didn't work...at all on P25 phase 2. The software fix seems to be hit or miss.
 
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I am trying to load a DES key and AES 256 key without luck. I already have an ADP key loaded and working, can I only load 1 set of keys into the pager?
 
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We are currently testing ADP encryption on older model "A" G4 pagers using PPS 4.0.46 and Firmware v2.04-T02B. After a few hours in the results look promising compared to the firmware we had back in December 2024.
 
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Ok and I have ADP encryption working on an older model with SAW filter hardware. I am trying to get AES 256 to work however it appears I need a pager with the newer G5N hardware and v2.04 fw.
 
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Gadgetmann said:
Ok and I have ADP encryption working on an older model with SAW filter hardware. I am trying to get AES 256 to work however it appears I need a pager with the newer G5N hardware and v2.04 fw.
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Looks like 2.04 might work on older pagers now according to estone4009
 
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No luck, I have upgraded to Firmware v2.04-T02B and before I upgraded, when I did a ptt, the pager showed the encrypted tg but no audio. Now it does not even show the tg on the pager. Also, shows missing key(which I have loaded).
 
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Gadgetmann said:
No luck, I have upgraded to Firmware v2.04-T02B and before I upgraded, when I did a ptt, the pager showed the encrypted tg but no audio. Now it does not even show the tg on the pager. Also, shows missing key(which I have loaded).
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Are you absolutely sure that both the CKR ID and Key ID are correct for your system? I know in mine the Key ID was not consistent with the CKR ID
 
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