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Well looks like I am SOL on both my pagers. Hardware in one is Basic(built in Bluetooth) and the other is SAW filter.
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P25T Encryption Issues
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not anymore!
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Not anymore?
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So AES 256 does or does not work on P25 Phase II with FW V2.04 on Version B hardware?
It did work when tested late last year.
P25 Trunked Phase II system, tested with multiple keys.
Is this on the TasGRN?
Yes
We tested trying to get the pagers to reliably decode ADP on a Motorola Phase 2 system for about six months and finally after many back and forth attempts Unication gave up and said we needed a higher signal strength. It is clear about 70% of the time and the rest is garbled. Unication support suggested we only use our pagers outside. This is a system of over 250 pagers in an active volunteer firefighter service. For what it's worth the signal strength indicator on the screen is NOT an accurate representation of the actual signal strength you are receiving. Our radios.do not have AES capability so we never made it that far in testing.
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Interesting in a very bad way.
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I am sitting in a system where it didn't work...at all on P25 phase 2. The software fix seems to be hit or miss.
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I am trying to load a DES key and AES 256 key without luck. I already have an ADP key loaded and working, can I only load 1 set of keys into the pager?
We are currently testing ADP encryption on older model "A" G4 pagers using PPS 4.0.46 and Firmware v2.04-T02B. After a few hours in the results look promising compared to the firmware we had back in December 2024.
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Ok and I have ADP encryption working on an older model with SAW filter hardware. I am trying to get AES 256 to work however it appears I need a pager with the newer G5N hardware and v2.04 fw.
Looks like 2.04 might work on older pagers now according to estone4009
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Ok, I will give it a shot, thanks.
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So apparently I need Unication uni maintain tool to update my fw to 2.04?
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No luck, I have upgraded to Firmware v2.04-T02B and before I upgraded, when I did a ptt, the pager showed the encrypted tg but no audio. Now it does not even show the tg on the pager. Also, shows missing key(which I have loaded).
Are you absolutely sure that both the CKR ID and Key ID are correct for your system? I know in mine the Key ID was not consistent with the CKR ID
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I have checked and my Key ID was entered incorrectly. I changed it and also confirmed the CKR ID was correct. Still no audio.
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And confirming you used the Unication Encryption Key Utility to load the key into the device(s) following the appropriate steps for doing so?
Just for fun I tested ARC4 and AES256 on all six of my devices (some running newer firmware and some running older firmware) and they all worked well. I did experience a little bit of digital distortion (particularly at the beginning of transmissions) but it wasn't bad enough to not be understandable.
