Palmetto 800 Master Thread

rcheid

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We also have 2 other sites to look for and identify

ST George (Dorchester County)
FCC - WRCV230
851.2875
851.775
852.4875
853.0625
853.800
858.2125
859.2125
859.7625
Took a look at this tonight, this is site 1-67. CC is 853.800. I'll submit it to the database.
 
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Just a heads up to everyone the state of SC has reconfigured their statewide 700 conventional lineup. Reference the document below.
 

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I'm glad they have all these grand plans for conventional mutual aid comms but I never hear any of the SCTAC channels used. Anybody else ever hear any of the SCTAC repeaters or 700/800 mutual aid simplex channels used?

Also the Anderson airport frequency in this list seems kind of random...
 

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I believe the 700 and 800 conventional direct and repeaters are for a fallback in the event that pal 800 goes down or can’t handle certain event comms although as Evan has noted I myself haven’t heard anything on them except key ups.
 

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Brian the latest update to palmetto 800 for the 1-79 site is wrong as it's a duplicate of the limehouse 1-70 site
 

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I thought they used SCTAC04 when the Norfolk Southern derailed below Liberty several years ago. Isn't that the Glassy Mtn 800 conventional repeater?
 

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The SCTAC conventional repeaters get used in my area at least once a year during a weekend-long street festival. Otherwise, I don't hear much at all on them. But we also have county-level Events talkgroups on Palmetto 800 that get used semi-regularly throughout the year.

It might be interesting to know if there are caches of radios (either county/local or state level) that are capable of 700/800 conventional but are NOT configured for Palmetto 800. I would doubt this is the case. Therefore, I'd guess that most "events" (either planned events or unplanned emergency incidents) are going to use Palmetto 800 on either local events or statewide interop talkgroups. Maybe there are cases at really LARGE events that they get concerned about site loading and offload some traffic to a conventional repeater.

Perhaps the "real" use case for these repeaters is more for when Palmetto 800 has a failure?
 

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This is kind of off topic but related to 800mhz conventional. Why don't more agencies use conventional 800mhz repeaters for their primary comms (I don't mean SCTAC, I mean their own licensed repeaters) instead of switching to private trunked systems (Cherokee, Fairfield, etc)? I know cost is a real issue with Pal800, but these private systems have subscription fees too, and are on a different band which make interoperability so much harder. Seems if they would stay on 800mhz they could at least communicate with agencies who are on Palmetto 800. Are they just getting a good sales pitch? Am I missing something?
 

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In most cases, 800 MHz spectrum requires a certain number of users to justify licensing, and by the time you reach that number it's usually necessary to go trunking.

Also if you're hoping to interop and use a trunking system on mutual aid calls, your subscribers will have to have the feature anyways which means your paying for an option you rarely use but still need to have optioned.
 

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Pickens County had an 800 mhz radio cache purchased with Homeland Security grant money. Although getting a little old these days, they were only used sporadically and should be in like new condition.
 

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Just a heads up to everyone the state of SC has reconfigured their statewide 700 conventional lineup. Reference the document below.
I'm just getting around to looking at these 700MHz frequencies in this document. I see that at some point in the past, another out-of-state database administrator created a separate 700MHz statewide category that contains a few of these frequencies, instead of adding them to the Interop/Mutual Aid category, which already has a 700MHz subcategory.

I'm thinking that I'll consolidate all of the 700MHz frequencies into the Interop/Mutual Aid category, deleting the separate 700MHz category, and then make separate subcategories for each of the different use types in this list. Does anyone have any comment about that approach to database organization?

It's too bad this list doesn't include tones/NACs.
 

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A source I have is telling me all the conventional 700 mhz frequencies are p25 and use the Standard nac of 293
 

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I’m also monitoring the 3 municipal law talkgroups for Lex county. Muni north, central, and south. They are all 3 patched and the male dispatcher who’s working the patch has a weird id of 27167 and not the standard Lex co Ids of 3187x and 3188x. My source has no info on it.
 

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Got 2 other new Lex co dispatch id’s. They are 27163 and 27164 as well as the previous one I caught 27167. Is anyone aware of any changes in Lexington co or the state regarding radio id’s. My guess is either they are reconfiguring the id structure along with their 700 conventional changes or they got new dispatch consoles.
 

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Got 2 other new Lex co dispatch id’s. They are 27163 and 27164 as well as the previous one I caught 27167. Is anyone aware of any changes in Lexington co or the state regarding radio id’s. My guess is either they are reconfiguring the id structure along with their 700 conventional changes or they got new dispatch consoles.
They may be using the backup center to dispatch. I believe they were doing some work in the main dispatch center
 

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I found the Youngs site in Laurens county. The license is WRYZ849. It's 700 MHZ and on the border with Greenville and Spartanburg.Maybe brian can pick it up.

771.39375/801.39375 771.93125/801.93125 771.66875/801.66875 772.40625/802.40625 772.41875/802.41875 772.85625/802.85625 773.14375/803.14375 773.93125/803.93125
 

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I found the Youngs site in Laurens county. The license is WRYZ849. It's 700 MHZ and on the border with Greenville and Spartanburg.Maybe brian can pick it up.

771.39375/801.39375 771.93125/801.93125 771.66875/801.66875 772.40625/802.40625 772.41875/802.41875 772.85625/802.85625 773.14375/803.14375 773.93125/803.93125

There are no new neighbor sites reported by the Laurens site or the Spartanburg site at this time.
 
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