Part 95 GMRS radio list

[mmckenna]

Looks like they are still selling NXDN and DMR radios. Not sure if they have Part 90 approvals, but it's worth a look. I'm not seeing a GMRS radio:

ALINCO

www.alinco.com

Looks like someone is selling an Alinco radio as GMRS:

Alinco DJ-G46 GMRS 5W HT - Cross-Touch Radio

Alinco DJ-G46T is a portable Cross-Touch 5W GMRS personal General-purpose communication 2-way radio, with repeater capabilities

www.remtronix.com

I'd double/triple check the FCC Id before assuming they are actually legal.

 

[mmckenna]

That is how I felt about Azden. I don't think they have manufactured transceivers for quite some time now.

Azden is still around in Japan, but they don't seem to make radios any more.

While I don't have anything against Midland, necessarily, I like seeing another choice for FCC Part 95 certified GMRS in the market.

While they are hated by some, loved by others, they certainly played a role in energizing the radio service.

Midland used to make some good commercial stuff, including repeaters. They seem to be sliding out of that business, slowly.

I think for them to see, they are going to need to get their name out there in the circles of folks that might be inclined to use them. While I don't shop at Cabelas's every day, there is a group of folks that do shop there that might be inclined to buy them. Many will look at price only.

If they perform better than Midland's best GMRS Portable, that would be a good thing. And, time will tell on that.

 

[JASII]

When I hear the name Midland, I still associate it with CB radios in the 1970s. I have no idea what the quality of those radios was, but that is what comes to my mind.

I recall getting Mobile Radio Technology magazine many years ago. In it was some commercial advertisement. Midland had an LMR mobile that claimed to offer in-band mobile vehicular repeater operation. One article I read claimed it worked okay, but I was skeptical.

 

[sallen07]

Looks like someone is selling an Alinco radio as GMRS:

Alinco DJ-G46 GMRS 5W HT - Cross-Touch Radio

Alinco DJ-G46T is a portable Cross-Touch 5W GMRS personal General-purpose communication 2-way radio, with repeater capabilities

www.remtronix.com

@mmckenna You haven't been hanging out enough in the GMRS subforum.

Alinco DJ-G46

Alinco has released a GMRS HT, the DJ-G46. It shares the same form-factor (and battery) as the DJ-MD5 and DJ-500. Having had one for a couple weeks, I offer this mini-review. I do not have a bench full of test equipment, nor am I a GMRS power user, but hopefully this bullet list (starting...

forums.radioreference.com

Remtronix is the US distributor for Alinco, so they aren't just "someone".

I'd double/triple check the FCC Id before assuming they are actually legal.

FCC ID PH3DJ-G46T

fcc.report

I think Alinco makes decent radios. The DJ-G46T is IMHO a step above the Chinese brands. (Yes, I know the radio might be made in China but so are iPhones. )

 

[sallen07]

Looks like they are still selling NXDN and DMR radios. Not sure if they have Part 90 approvals, but it's worth a look. I'm not seeing a GMRS radio:

Their website is ... less than optimal. Good luck finding most of their current US products on it!

 

[mmckenna]

@mmckenna You haven't been hanging out enough in the GMRS subforum.

Yeah, I don't. While I have a GMRS license, I rarely use it.

Remtronix is the US distributor for Alinco, so they aren't just "someone".

I figured that, but couldn't confirm.

I think Alinco makes decent radios. The DJ-G46T is IMHO a step above the Chinese brands. (Yes, I know the radio might be made in China but so are iPhones. )

I figured I'd rustle someone's jimmies with that comment. I know every brand has its fans. I've never owned any Alinco stuff, so my comments are trying to stay neutral.

 

[mmckenna]

I think Alinco makes decent radios. The DJ-G46T is IMHO a step above the Chinese brands. (Yes, I know the radio might be made in China but so are iPhones. )

Yet there they go with those funky CCR emissions:

 

[sallen07]

I figured I'd rustle someone's jimmies with that comment. I know every brand has its fans. I've never owned any Alinco stuff, so my comments are trying to stay neutral.

I know Alinco is #4 out of the Big Three but I'd be shocked if they started selling something in the US that wasn't certified. Actually news of the new GMRS radio came out a month or so before it was available and I believe they were waiting for the FCC.

But I'll be the first to admit that I'm an Alinco fan-boy, yes.

I'm also not a big GMRS user and I certainly did NOT need another GMRS HT but I couldn't resist. I like it, and I'm going to sell me other GMRS HTs and keep this one!

 

[mmckenna]

I know Alinco is #4 out of the Big Three but I'd be shocked if they started selling something in the US that wasn't certified. Actually news of the new GMRS radio came out a month or so before it was available and I believe they were waiting for the FCC.

That makes sense. I was looking at their global website, and it showed a lot of PMR radios. Was hoping someone just didn't import them and sold them as is. Looks like they took the existing PMR radios and gave them an FRS firmware update.

Nice to see some options for decent FRS and GMRS radios.

But I'll be the first to admit that I'm an Alinco fan-boy, yes.

I won't hold that against you.

I'm also not a big GMRS user and I certainly did NOT need another GMRS HT but I couldn't resist. I like it, and I'm going to sell me other GMRS HTs and keep this one!

I've got my old UHF shop radio from work here at home. It's one of the Kenwood TK-3180's high split that actually has GMRS approval. Battery is dead due to lack of use, but it's a decent radio.

 

[sallen07]

That makes sense. I was looking at their global website, and it showed a lot of PMR radios. Was hoping someone just didn't import them and sold them as is. Looks like they took the existing PMR radios and gave them an FRS firmware update.

Yes I think that's exactly what they did.

The Remtronix website is definitely a better source for information on Alinco than the Alinco site!

Nice to see some options for decent FRS and GMRS radios.

I hope Alinco sells a bunch of them but I see it as an uphill battle. On the one hand you'll have people who will look at it and say, "Gee but I can get a GMRS HT for $30 and it has more buttons so it MUST be better than this Alinco one". On the other, it seems like a lot of the GMRS crowd is in love with Wouxun and are willing to spend $150 or $200 or more for one of their radios. The pricepoint on the Alinco does line up pretty well with some of the lower-end Wouxun GMRS radios that have similar features though.

I won't hold that against you.

Well thank you! LOL.

I've got my old UHF shop radio from work here at home. It's one of the Kenwood TK-3180's high split that actually has GMRS approval. Battery is dead due to lack of use, but it's a decent radio.

If I was that "into" GMRS I'd look for one of those Kenwoods. Hmm. Maybe I need to do that anyways, since I've turned into a Kenwood fanboy of late too!

 

[03msc]

I'm not saying do it...but...the reality is, if someone is using a Part 90 radio on GMRS and using it properly (i.e. within the bounds of the GMRS rules) then it is unlikely anyone would know or that any transmissions would be outside the bounds of the GMRS rules.

 

[mmckenna]

I'm not saying do it...but...the reality is, if someone is using a Part 90 radio on GMRS and using it properly (i.e. within the bounds of the GMRS rules) then it is unlikely anyone would know or that any transmissions would be outside the bounds of the GMRS rules.

Yeah, exactly.

It sort of falls under the "don't be a dumb a$$" rule. If you don't make a big deal about it, do things technically correct, and follow the rest of the rules, there's no reason for anyone to come looking.

But then there's always the one in the bunch that has to do something stupid...

 

[03msc]

I may or may not have GMRS in my Kenwood NX5800...

 

[AK9R]

I may or may not have GMRS in my Kenwood NX5800...

Hopefully, you have the GMRS channels configured for "wideband", +/- 5 kHz deviation.

 

[03msc]

Hopefully, you have the GMRS channels configured for "wideband", +/- 5 kHz deviation.

Of course. No sarcasm. Ref. Post 151, this thread.

 

[JASII]

I suppose the list of repeaters that are compliant with Part 95E is s short list,

 

[rescuecomm]

I imagine that just about all GMRS repeaters in use are re-purposed Part 90 wide band retirees.

 

[merlin]

Probably a lot of radios that comply with part 95 that have not been tested by the FCC.
Probably a lot of radios that would not pass.

 

[nd5y]

Probably a lot of radios that comply with part 95 that have not been tested by the FCC.

The FCC doesn't do testing.

Equipment Authorization

Laboratory Division Home Approval Guide Overview Radio Frequency (RF) devices are required to be properly auth

www.fcc.gov

Manufacturers pay testing laboratories to do compliance and certification testing on new products.

 

[JASII]

Maybe GMRS repeaters are an exception.

95.335
(a) Exceptions. Under certain exceptions, non-certified Personal Radio Service transmitters, or transmitters certified for use in the land mobile radio services may be operated. Any such exceptions applicable to stations in a Personal Radio Service are set forth in the subpart governing that specific service.

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