ngel
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Don’t believe so as I can program it in my SDS100 and receive it just fine, but I am in Pasco.
Pasco County (EDACS and 00A.927F9)
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zlandmedia
not that florida man
Thanks again y'all for reassuring that the fire CAD is still in the clear. I took my SDS100 up to the Shops at Wiregrass today and sure enough heard a call.
I was also at the Wesley Chapel Goodwill store and my scanner wasn't locking onto the EDACS system at all. Have they turned its transmitting power down?
I was also at the Wesley Chapel Goodwill store and my scanner wasn't locking onto the EDACS system at all. Have they turned its transmitting power down?
Good question. 2 weeks ago I was driving by and was hearing the school buses on the edacs was picking up new tg's for the school buses on edacs.
ngel
Member
I don’t understand what this fascination is with broadcasting feeds. Pasco has literally encrypted everything because of feeds. Hopefully this person does the right thing and takes down the feed. We are our own worst enemies I swear, people have long forgotten the rule of listening and that is keeping it to yourself. Unreal!
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I originally found out about it because the person who is streaming posted it on Facebook on multiple different groups around Pasco County some of them with over 50,000 people. Basically, I said that if you stream it, it’s going to get taken off-line and to keep it to yourself and was told they will not be taking it down and leaving it up. It’s unfortunate, was the last thing we had here in the county, now it’s time to see how long until it’s gone.
ngel
Member
Wow cool thanks person, whoever you are for ruining it for everyone else. The internet has ruined the hobby for sure.
It’s very unfortunate, knowing how Pasco is with this being the only open channel left once they see people are listening then i’m sure they’re going to push to P25 encryption just like all the rest of the channels. Plus with this person putting it on multiple different groups on Facebook in front of thousands of people i’m sure it won’t take much for someone within the department to see it, on top of that it had over 15 listeners at one point earlier. I hope for the best but I doubt it will be up for very much longer.
zlandmedia
not that florida man
I know the feeds don't help in this situation but overall Pasco is just a county with a government that likes to keep things under wraps and control their overall narrative about how the county should be perceived/portrayed.
This post from Ryan pretty much describes how Pasco treats the media and why viewers never know what's going on up there: Pasco County (EDACS and 00A.927F9)
takyrob
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Blame Live PD, that was the start
ngel
Member
I wonder if the thumbs down person on all these recent posts is our streamer 🤨
Played a part, but it’s way deeper than that. Nocco (Pasco head sheriff) has made it very clear that transparency is not something he does or supports. Pasco county sheriffs office is the only sheriffs office around the area that doesn’t share their crime statistics publicly and charges you money for asking for them, doesn’t have an active call log or delayed call log, does full P25 encryption on everything they have, and turns off there comments on their social medias to where you can’t express your opinion, it’s truly ridiculous. I know quite a few sheriff agencies around the area now have encryption, but most of them either provide many updates online or has an active call log and all of them share their statistics online, Pasco can’t do either. Fire rescue has became the same way with providing information on things going on, ever noticed that the alert post have stopped on their social media. Why do they need full P25 encryption on everything, makes no sense to me. Hernando County just switched to P25 but their fire department has already said they would not be encrypting so why is Pasco? Plus the fire department severely limited PulsePoint back in October and doesn’t post on their social media pages anymore about things going on. In five years, this area went from relatively transparent to completely not transparent on anything within the public safety sector. I’ve reached out to people before and every single time It’s some sort of excuse, either with Marcy’s law or sheriff safety. Their excuse with PulsePoint was it was making firefighters unsafe yet there’s been no credible evidence of that and every single other PulsePoint connected agency doesn’t seem to have an issue. It’s all just excuses from them, and it’s definitely not a fight that I could do alone. So hopefully one day sometime hopefully soon a lot of people will band together and demand more transparency from both these departments within the county before it gets worse… silence never gets anywhere. Maybe some news station can step up and start talking to the residences about how they feel that the sheriff’s office won’t tell them anything going on and run a story or something because whenever they decide to cut off the EDACS then that’s it, no more info on anything.
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ngel
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I wonder how this guy pasconewsonline.com | Local breaking news and weather in Pasco County is getting all of his news. I previously asked him if he somehow had access to the radio system, but he never responded back
He doesn't have access. He deals with the same listening challenges we do.
The news comes to this site the same way as everyone else in the media does... viewer tips, inside sources, and press releases. But he has the advantage of living there and covering a smaller area so his personal connections are stronger.
He was also very smart and created a scanner group well before everything went dark. Fans still use it to report police/rescue activity and even though it's not enough info initially, is a nugget he can use to inquire more about certain incidents.
Part of the problem there is that they chased their PIO away and never replaced him. They added Pasco County CORRECTIONS to his responsibilities, among other tasks that took him way from what a Fire PIO should be doing. He left the stress to work for the school district. Which is a shame, he had incredible credentials and was very involved in the department. He did his best despite the decisions above his pay grade. They still don't have a full-time PIO and the media has to contact a county government PIO who has little idea how the fire service works.
I was told by the chief that they got a new Fire Rescue PIO named Jessica back in early May, it’s now mid June and I have yet to see any posts on stuff going on. I reached out to them about that and was told they would resume with the information posts “very soon” a few weeks ago after the new PIO is adjusted to how it all works. I just find it odd that they limited the Pulsepoint info at the same time that the Posts stopped and the past PIO left so I’m still on the fence with believing that they will inform the public on stuff like they use to, more on I will believe it when I see it side.
how would Pasco encrypt an old analog edacs system? They would have to somehow piece together used legacy encryption equipment and then install it at each fire station and then maintain it. Seems very unlikely a radio vendor is even going to offer this. What is likely is they just stop using the edacs for station alerting and spend the money to add it as part of the P25 TRS.
ngel
Member
I am sure they already have the ability or are actively moving the station alerting to their P25 system. I’m going to guess now faster and to an encrypted talk group due to the streamer putting it online now.
zlandmedia
not that florida man
If I'm not mistaken, the automated Fire Alert channel is already on the P25 system.
so whats the purpose of even having the edacs talk group still active? They apparently need it for some reason despite having built a multi million dollar TRS several years ago.
