Fred1
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Who is 18xray on SW band?
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What SW freq Last time I heard A PD on SW was Wheeling WV and Cincinnati PD both just above the bc band way back in the early 50s
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The official designation for an X unit is an expressway car.
I know in Bucks County it means an extra car added to the sector cars for special events but according to the official designation list in Philadelphia it is an Expressway Car.
I know in Bucks County it means an extra car added to the sector cars for special events but according to the official designation list in Philadelphia it is an Expressway Car.
DASFlies
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18xray should be the 18th district's executive officer (Lieutenant)
An X at the front of the designator ("X18") would be an Expressway Patrol car
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Yeah I wanted to be sure so I looked it up. A lieutenant is "18 command" Sergeant's are 18 A through D like 18 Andy or 18 Charlie.
It's true that an expressway Patrol unit the X would be a prefix. They are not limited to the t-band and can be in a district.
Interesting. Maybe it is an Extra Car to supplement the sector cars. I wish I had my copy of the Philadelphia Communications guide from the 80s but it's in the garage. I don't have a subscription anymore for the internet version.
I'm using RR Wiki so... who knows, I monitor the far Northeast everyday and the lieutenant is definitely #command.
Let me see what I can find.
It's true that an expressway Patrol unit the X would be a prefix. They are not limited to the t-band and can be in a district.
Interesting. Maybe it is an Extra Car to supplement the sector cars. I wish I had my copy of the Philadelphia Communications guide from the 80s but it's in the garage. I don't have a subscription anymore for the internet version.
I'm using RR Wiki so... who knows, I monitor the far Northeast everyday and the lieutenant is definitely #command.
Let me see what I can find.
DASFlies
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My understanding is the "(District#)Xray" lieutenant as the executive officer is basically second in command under the district captain. I believe they generally work normal office hours. The "(District#)Command" Lieutenants are more like shift or tour commanders.
"X18X" or similar callsigns with the trailing X are cars on construction or other extra details.
A suffix of X is a construction detail for Expressway Patrol but see DASFiles answer above. .
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So I started searching out of curiosity and yes there is one captain of course and three lieutenants, one for each police service area. The lieutenant at Pine Street appears to be second-in-command and could be the one that you're referring to as 18 x whereas the others would be on the radio on patrol as 18 command with just one at a time on radio.
I just noticed Joe chimed in, he is the publisher of the Philadelphia Communications guide. So what do you think is the answer to the OPs original question Joe?
KB7MIB
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SW Band refers to Southwest Band, not shortwave band.
Philly PD calls their channels, "bands", rather than channels. So there's Southwest Band, Northeast Band, "T-band", etc.
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We just assumed he got his geography mixed up. It happens.
I responded to a thread one time about fire tower locations and I thought they were talking about New Jersey but they were talking about Australia LOL.
Yep, J band, M band Etc goes way back... When I was growing up in Abington in the mid-60s listening on a tunable monitor Philadelphia was actually on the 453 megahertz range. First application of UHF that I ever saw but then again, what did I know, I was only about 11 or 12. Philly cars were bright red then and they had the little black rubber quarter wave 5 in whips with the old Motorola NMO rounded mount on the roof of the Rambler Nash's hahaha.
I tend to get nostalgic so I don't want to go OT here LOL.
I responded to a thread one time about fire tower locations and I thought they were talking about New Jersey but they were talking about Australia LOL.
Yep, J band, M band Etc goes way back... When I was growing up in Abington in the mid-60s listening on a tunable monitor Philadelphia was actually on the 453 megahertz range. First application of UHF that I ever saw but then again, what did I know, I was only about 11 or 12. Philly cars were bright red then and they had the little black rubber quarter wave 5 in whips with the old Motorola NMO rounded mount on the roof of the Rambler Nash's hahaha.
I tend to get nostalgic so I don't want to go OT here LOL.
saber2k5
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Can anyone tell me, what is Southwest Pat Andy?
South-West Division (12th and 18th Districts)
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saber2k5
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Thank you both for that useful info.
Dist. + Pat + Andy - Drop-back Tactical Supervisor
Dist. + Pat + Barney - Drop-back Tactical Supervisor
Dist. + Pat + Charlie - Drop-back Tactical Supervisor
Dist. + Pat + unit # - Drop-back Tactical Officers (Marked and Plain Clothes)
Not all districts have them
Dist. + Pat + Barney - Drop-back Tactical Supervisor
Dist. + Pat + Charlie - Drop-back Tactical Supervisor
Dist. + Pat + unit # - Drop-back Tactical Officers (Marked and Plain Clothes)
Not all districts have them
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There you go, you published the best frequency guides available, nothing like it today in Philly area.
I've noticed that public affairs units are always dispatched to protests, strikes or other large gatherings but come to think of it they just called them public affairs on the radio so I just ASSumed Pat Andy... LOL.
Hi Bob,
I think you mean Civil Affairs (Charlie 100 series units)? They used to be called the Civil Disobedience Unit years ago. Like when SWAT used to be called Stakeout
No problem Bob, that was a good guess though!
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