PRO 2096 isn't picking stuff up

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1977addis

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I have a pro 2096 scanner and all thr sudden it's not picking up frequencies. it will pick up WX radio and occasionally a fire ems channel will come through but there is a ton of static. I have a pro 2021 that us also running and it recieves frequencies just fine. I have used both an exterior and interior antenna and I get the same results. what coukd be wrong with the radio?
 

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I have a pro 2096 scanner and all thr sudden it's not picking up frequencies. it will pick up WX radio and occasionally a fire ems channel will come through but there is a ton of static. I have a pro 2021 that us also running and it recieves frequencies just fine. I have used both an exterior and interior antenna and I get the same results. what coukd be wrong with the radio?

Good probability that the internal connection to the BNC antenna jack is loose or broken. You need to open up the radio to check.

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I would open up the cover and look for a bad connection for the center pin to the circuit board. That would be the 1st thing I would suspect like a cold solder joint or broken solder joint or the BNC center pin isn't making good contact.
 

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I would open up the cover and look for a bad connection for the center pin to the circuit board. That would be the 1st thing I would suspect like a cold solder joint or broken solder joint or the BNC center pin isn't making good contact.

I have check the connector and it's all there, nothing is out of place or missing.
 

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what would cause a scanner to have bad reception?

I have a scanner and it picked up stuff well but recently it barley picks up anything. I have checked the connector (inside and out) and it's A ok. I use an exterior mounted antenna, and I have tried an interior telescopic but I get the same results. the radio will pick up weather radio but it's very staticky. I have checked the internals of the radio and they look as they should. the radio was made in 2006
 

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I have a scanner and it picked up stuff well but recently it barley picks up anything. I have checked the connector (inside and out) and it's A ok. I use an exterior mounted antenna, and I have tried an interior telescopic but I get the same results. the radio will pick up weather radio but it's very staticky. I have checked the internals of the radio and they look as they should. the radio was made in 2006
What type of antennas?

You could have some local signal source, which causes the automatic gain circuit (AGC) to lower the gain, and the more distant signals need more gain. This is called desense, and there are many threads in these forums on the topic.

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So, I just finished replying to your post asking about a CB transmitter potentially frying the front end of a scanner (before I read this post). It sounds like you asked that question too late.

If you don't have a field strength meter, find someone who does and borrow it. I would strongly recommend doing a measurement before you put your scanner back in service after repairing it (I'm assuming you need to get it repaired - once the front end is fried it won't recover on it's own).

The definition of insanity: doing the exact same thing more than once and expecting different results. :)
 

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What type of antennas?

You could have some local signal source, which causes the automatic gain circuit (AGC) to lower the gain, and the more distant signals need more gain. This is called desense, and there are many threads in these forums on the topic.

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for exterior I use a PL 259 to BNC connector, cb coax and a 72" steel whip antenna. for interior I have a bnc telescopic 5 link antenna
 

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A 72" whip is not going to work the best for VHF Hi band.

But it would be much better at coupling the power from the CB antenna...

And I'm hoping you (77) didn't connect them both to the same antenna or that is definitely the problem.
 

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I have had a solder joint fracture between the board and the connector that confounded me with the signal. Put it on a know signal and leave the BNC on and put pressure in different directions from the back and see if you get any change in signal. This is more common than you think. If it is just put a little solder flux paste on it and remelt the solder for a second and let it cool, clean it with alcohol and it should be good.
 

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Any chance that you have or had a transmitter operating near the scanner.


I was given 6 x Uniden 996's that were used by a search and rescue group with antennas that were installed within 4 feet of a 20 watt VHF hi band comm radio on vehicles and one in a aircraft with the TACTICAL FM radio operating at 10 watts.

All RF preamps in the scanners were damaged just after they were installed by someon else besides me.


All antennas were checked and found to be VHF quarter waves on the FM comm radios and tri band VHF/UHF/800 Mhz on the scanners and all were connected properly to their respective units but still all scanners receiver preamps were damaged.


The cessna C208 was using a Comant VHF TSO'd aviation, 148-174 MHz antenna, for both the scanner and for TACTICAL 10 watt FM unit


The scanners were scanning a considerable amount of the VHF band along with some UHF and some 800 MHz trunking systems at the same time while the SAR FM TACT radios were operating near 155.805 MHz.

The 20 watt VHF radios are all set to be transmitting at 20 watts or +43 dBm of RF output power into the quarter wave antennas while the Cessna radios power was set to 10 watts into a Comant 148-174 MHz VHF aviation antenna.

Even if the antennas had been spaced at one wavelength, in the middle of the VHF band lets say ~ approximately 6.5 feet apart, the path loss would only be 22 db and the front end of the scanners would still see +43dBm-22 dB ( antenna spacing/isolation) or around +21 dBm of power ( just over 100 milliwatts) which the receiver preamps may be able to take but still I wouldn't feel comfortable even at one wavelength of spacings.


Since all of these installations, including the Cessna C208 used by another agency not a SAR group, they still used antennas spaced at 4 to~ 3.25 feet the isolation number was only 18 to 20 db ( isolation was measured in all installations) this stilll equals +43dBm - (18 to 20db) or +23 to +25 dBm possibly going into the front end of the scanners if the scanners were tuned to the same VHF high band as those that the TAC FM radios were transmitting near.

seeing that +23 dBm is 200 milliwatts going into the adjacent receiver, operating in the same band, and this is not a comfortable number for the installations in which these radios are used.

As a result I replaced the damaged receiver active devices and installed back to back schottky diodes across the receivers input which so far has eliminated the issue.


I also had a similar issue with some of our SAR dog tracking collars when operated near our VHF mobile radios.

The dog collars operate at 151.825 MHz and the SAR radio were on 155.805 and the dog collars receiver along with some of the handlers GPS receiving units had damage to the VHF receivers front end amplifiers.

Adding back to back Schottky diodes resolved this issue also in the collars and in the handheld GPS units VHF receivers.

Looking back at past history, I had a similar issue with another SAR group several years ago in Arizona where their 60 watt Vertex FTL1011 low band mobiles were damaging a VHF high band FM tactical radios receiver amplifier.

The VHFhigh band radios ( Vertex FTL2011's) were being used for both ham and SAR 150 MHz use.


These installs in 4X4 vehicles also had closely spaced antennas on the rear and even though they were in different bands VHF hi and VHF low, the use of a 5/8 wave VHF high band antenna which is also an effective VHF low band quarter wave antenna was an issue.

It was discovered that the 3rd harmonic of the FTL1011 low band transceiver, while even though into a 50 ohm load it met a -58 dBc spec on harmonics out to the 7th order, a 3rd harmonic was barreling thru the VHF high band 5/8th wave whip which was being used as a VHF low band 1/4 wave antenna resulting in very little isolation thereby causing receiver damage to the FTL2011 VHF high band receiver amplifiers.

The solution was to add a 3rd harmonic stub/notch to the FTL1011 transceivers output prior to the VHF antenna and back to back schottky diodes to all of the receivers input just in case.
 

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My sound was garbled...choppy so I made the internal adjustment on my base model pro 2096 without any electrical gadgets and very few tools (I done it to my handheld pro 96 a few years ago as well: it worked great one time and another time I fried one I touched screw driver to wrong spot-let the smoke out-it didn't work after that, lol) Anyway tonight I waited for a motorolla hit and then switched it to manual. My percents were 16%, 0% to 12%, and one was in the 20's for the three things that toggle itself on manual. I turned the v4 screw the wrong way , they dropped to zero. I turned it the other direction in very small increments that totaled about half turn-TA-DA!!! I am back in the high 90's and the sound is no longer choppy and it follows conversation. Thanks RR, keep posting.
I would love to tweak the other two V screws, BUT I LOVE MY SCANNER and I learned my lesson already. I do not want to fry my scanner. but if anyone does know what the other two V screws operate, please do tell. (and if someone already has-cut me some slack Im sleepy-send me a link)
my best,
-michelle
 
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