pro-96 help

[wsbeach]

mine is just pro-2096

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I am confused at what you are talking about above. I have a pro96 and Win96 and a cable. Are you talking about listening and watching your pro96 scanner on your computer screen, if so how do I do that? Thank you very much for your help!!

In my case I'm using the standared Radio Shack serial PC/IF cable (discontinued now i think) that I use to program the scanner with Win96. Have the USB cable, but have not tried it yet.
For Pro96com, I use that cable and followed the instructions above. Make sure you tune to a digital control channel first, then do the pgm,func,pgm,pgm..., then do the read from scanner button on pro96com (learning from the mistakes I made). I can't hear the scannner, but I see all the talk groups I'm getting, really useful if you think you are missing some. I'm primarily looking for our local fire talk, and it does not come on that often.

 

[loumaag]

No Im having no luck and it bums me out. Its funny I want to a friends house tonight with it and it sounded great he is 5 miles east of me. He said he would be happy to listen to it for me. The people at RS are telling me the tower might me bad near my house and there are alot of problems with the system right now. All I know is I payed big money to have it work and it stinks I cant hear much of anything.

What's the status now?

I went back over this thread and two things come to mind.

1. You never really stated what system you were having the reception problem with (Lucas Co. or MARCS).
2. If the problem is with Lucas Co., you may be suffering from the same problem most people attempting to monitor a simulcast Project 25 system suffer; that is (at present) all of the older scanners have a problem with decoding both CCh's and voice when receiving from more than one tower.

 

[zsowle50]

What's the status now?

I went back over this thread and two things come to mind.

1. You never really stated what system you were having the reception problem with (Lucas Co. or MARCS).
2. If the problem is with Lucas Co., you may be suffering from the same problem most people attempting to monitor a simulcast Project 25 system suffer; that is (at present) all of the older scanners have a problem with decoding both CCh's and voice when receiving from more than one tower.

I really dont know much about what every is talking about im new to the new scanner world the old world was working fine. That being said im not shur what system im on I would say that it is lucas co. I dont think Im to close to a tower for a overload I would say I am 10 miles or so from one. Is there a amp or something i can get? I can get some clear as day.What is MARCS?

 

[loumaag]

I really dont know much about what every is talking about im new to the new scanner world the old world was working fine. That being said im not shur what system im on I would say that it is lucas co. I dont think Im to close to a tower for a overload I would say I am 10 miles or so from one. Is there a amp or something i can get? I can get some clear as day.What is MARCS?

Okay here is some information:

• Lucas Co Public Safety is a Project 25 system that uses simulcast towers. This means that all the towers on the system have the same frequencies and all towers transmit the same thing at the same time on the same channel. For P25 digital, this causes multiple problems for both control channel decoding and voice decoding if you are within range of more than one tower. Hence the solution to this problem is less reception, not more. You don't want an amplifier, you want to lose all signal except for the closest tower.
• State of Ohio MARCS is a Motorola Type II Omnilink system that uses P25 CAI voice. All that means is it is a set of standard Type II systems that are linked together using digital voice. There is no issue of simulcast problems in this instance that I am aware of. The closest tower would appear to be the Toledo tower (site 226).

Based on your response quoted above, you are probably having problems with the Lucas Co. TRS, and those problems are probably due to the simulcast nature of the system. All I can say is get less signal into your scanner or use a directional antenna pointed at the closest tower.

 

[zsowle50]

Okay here is some information:

• Lucas Co Public Safety is a Project 25 system that uses simulcast towers. This means that all the towers on the system have the same frequencies and all towers transmit the same thing at the same time on the same channel. For P25 digital, this causes multiple problems for both control channel decoding and voice decoding if you are within range of more than one tower. Hence the solution to this problem is less reception, not more. You don't want an amplifier, you want to lose all signal except for the closest tower.
• State of Ohio MARCS is a Motorola Type II Omnilink system that uses P25 CAI voice. All that means is it is a set of standard Type II systems that are linked together using digital voice. There is no issue of simulcast problems in this instance that I am aware of. The closest tower would appear to be the Toledo tower (site 226).

Based on your response quoted above, you are probably having problems with the Lucas Co. TRS, and those problems are probably due to the simulcast nature of the system. All I can say is get less signal into your scanner or use a directional antenna pointed at the closest tower.

Thank you for taking the time to try to help me. Maybe I will remove the antenna and see how it sounds. Its really starting to take the fun out of having a $500 scanner.

 

[zsowle50]

Thank you for taking the time to try to help me. Maybe I will remove the antenna and see how it sounds. Its really starting to take the fun out of having a $500 scanner.

Ok I am 1.5 miles from the tower and no nothing with out antenna

 

[SCPD]

a quick ?.. where do I get pro96.com & also do I have to TAP the scanner. I have pro 96 & 97

 

[Dubbin]

a quick ?.. where do I get pro96.com & also do I have to TAP the scanner. I have pro 96 & 97

Google search pro96com, the first thing that pops up is what you're looking for and no, you do not need a tap.

 

[SCPD]

Cooool thanks dubbin!!!

 

[SCPD]

hmmmm i tried that.. this is what i get
pro96.com
Search the Web:

* Scanner Software
* Scanning Software
* Epson Perfection
* Card Scanner
* Canon Scanners
* Scanner Review
* Free Software

Scanner Software

Scanning Software

Epson Perfection

Card Scanner

Canon Scanners

Scanner Review

Free Software

Virus Scanner

Flatbed Scanner

Umax

Photo Scanner

Epson Perfection

Photo Scanner

Canoscan

Flatbed Scanner

Perfection



Card Scanner

Card Scan

Mini Usb

Targus

Corex



Canon Scanners

Fujitsu Scanners

Online Scanner

Computers Scanners

Scanner Hp

 

[Dubbin]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pro96com/

You must not have used google

 

[wsbeach]

pro96com..... no dot

search on pro96com without the dot
http://www.pa2600.com/PRO96.html

but you do need the programming cable

 

[wsbeach]

Okay here is some information:

• Lucas Co Public Safety is a Project 25 system that uses simulcast towers. This means that all the towers on the system have the same frequencies and all towers transmit the same thing at the same time on the same channel. For P25 digital, this causes multiple problems for both control channel decoding and voice decoding if you are within range of more than one tower. Hence the solution to this problem is less reception, not more. You don't want an amplifier, you want to lose all signal except for the closest tower.
• State of Ohio MARCS is a Motorola Type II Omnilink system that uses P25 CAI voice. All that means is it is a set of standard Type II systems that are linked together using digital voice. There is no issue of simulcast problems in this instance that I am aware of. The closest tower would appear to be the Toledo tower (site 226).

Based on your response quoted above, you are probably having problems with the Lucas Co. TRS, and those problems are probably due to the simulcast nature of the system. All I can say is get less signal into your scanner or use a directional antenna pointed at the closest tower.

Loumaag, you brought up something I was not aware of, the project 95 simulcast. So if I'm in a county with multiple simulcast towers, I want only 1, correct ?
Which leads to my second problem I'm noticing, I use to tune to one analog channel to get only the fire calls in my area, now I'm getting EVERYTHING ! Should I lock out talk ID's to get only what I want ? If so, I have too many for one bank, what happens if I repeat the same control channel in multiple banks, ignored?.

 

[SCPD]

thanks I do have the old serial PCIF cord

 

[wsbeach]

works ok

thanks I do have the old serial PCIF cord

still using the serial one myself... have not tried the usb one yet

 

[SCPD]

OK, I have the proggy, Will blow up my scanner & puter later lol thanks guys

 

[loumaag]

Loumaag, you brought up something I was not aware of, the project 95 simulcast. So if I'm in a county with multiple simulcast towers, I want only 1, correct ?
Which leads to my second problem I'm noticing, I use to tune to one analog channel to get only the fire calls in my area, now I'm getting EVERYTHING ! Should I lock out talk ID's to get only what I want ? If so, I have too many for one bank, what happens if I repeat the same control channel in multiple banks, ignored?.

Err, you only want to receive one tower, but that is not as easy as it sounds since the whole purpose of simulcast is to overlap the same signal for total coverage. Now that said, not all problems with simulcast digital is in the scanner, the actual system may have problems also, but then you would hear about it from the users.

As for the programming problem, you are looking at that backwards; program what you want to hear and not what you don't want to hear. Then depending on what scanner you have listen in "Closed" or "ID Scan" mode.

 

[loumaag]

Ok I am 1.5 miles from the tower and no nothing with out antenna

1.5 miles with no antenna is a stretch...use a paperclip for an antenna first, then see what happens. Get progressively more antenna until you find the right amount. Also see my last post about possible system problems.

 

[wsbeach]

As for the programming problem, you are looking at that backwards; program what you want to hear and not what you don't want to hear. Then depending on what scanner you have listen in "Closed" or "ID Scan" mode.

Thanks Lou, starting to get it now... (it was so simple with one agency, one frequency in the "old" days).

Now to start my reprogramming,
one bank digital open with only control channels - to listen to while the wife is not near by
one bank digital closed with just fire - on all the time
one bank analog with just the fire page - on all the time
one bank digital closed with local fire plus next city fire - on when they are working together

btw - using a pro-2096