Programming the PRO-96 and 2096 for rebanded Motorola trunked systems

[Highpockets]

I entered the table that Mike posted into the custom table for that system, it seems to be tracking ok so far, I'll keep an eye on it. Thank you all for the help, I needed it. On the first try it said resetting eprom and reset scanner, reprogramed again, took it and all info in scanner seems ok, I hope this was normal when doing this.

 

[WayneH]

I appreciated all the help above, but, your answer was what I was looking for, I was getting confused, I asked the question because the numbers didn't look the same, I wanted to know what to enter into the scanner to make the system track right.

This, below, was probably the thread you should have looked at first. It would have eliminated the confusion as it corresponds to the GRE radios and not RadioShack. http://www.radioreference.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100213

 

[Highpockets]

This, below, was probably the thread you should have looked at first. It would have eliminated the confusion as it corresponds to the GRE radios and not RadioShack. http://www.radioreference.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100213

Thanks for all your help, I quoted your message first in the beginning, I figured you knew what you were talking about, and I appreciate it! I'm up and running, and everything so far is fine. Thanks to all who helped me.

 

[stlouisx50]

Thanks
Code:

ChLO ChHI Step Offset Base
440 559 25.000 440 851.025000
000 719 25.000 0 851.012500

The above works for the St. Peters, Missouri System. They just rebanded.

 

[WayneH]

Those of you that find this information helpful please consider sending me raw data dumps of the control channel so I complete some rebanding analysis.

If you don't have a GRE (as it has the CC Dump) you would need a discriminator tap and applicable software. PM me if you would life to help and need further info.

I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

 

[signman48625]

Any help for michigan, central mich area and I,m not hearing some control channels,are we in the processs of rebanding, if so is it a wait till its done or can I scan both.

 

[fmon]

Any help for michigan, central mich area and I,m not hearing some control channels,are we in the processs of rebanding, if so is it a wait till its done or can I scan both.

Rebanding is for Motorola 800 systems only. P25, EDACS and LTR require new freqs only.

 

[LGLHOOK]

Wayne,
Do I have to program your table code into each "channel" bank under the multi-table section (800 MHz) or do I only need to put it in once and it will carry over to all banks?

 

[DonS]

Do I have to program your table code into each "channel" bank under the multi-table section (800 MHz) or do I only need to put it in once and it will carry over to all banks?

The "multi-table" settings are per-bank (they have to be, so that you can have multiple systems using different tables). You'll need to enter that data into any bank that contains such a "rebanded" Motorola 800 MHz system.

 

[LGLHOOK]

Thanks Don, I appreciate it.

 

[hcpholder]

The Pro-96/2096 has the capability to use the preloaded (you don't see them) standard band plan for the 800 or 900 MHz bands or a splinter band plan for 800 MHz (used near the borders.) It also has the ability to use a custom band plan (that is the one in the upper right hand side of the software window), this is used for either VHF or UHF and can be set via the keyboard on the radio or in the software. The default numbers you see in that (either in the radio or in the Win96 software) are the UHF defaults because most non-800/900 MHz TRS are UHF with those defaults. They can be changed, more on that in a moment. The radio is also capable of using a multi-table band plan; however, that multi-table can only be accessed via software. You cannot set it on the radio directly. In the Win96 software, the instructions I gave you earlier will give the ability to see any of the plans (including the standard or splinter plans) by viewing them in the multi-table. In the software (Win96) the custom table is accessed the same way you access the multi-table, just click on the "Custom table" radio button.

Ok, do I make the table change to the "800MHz" or the "800 MHz Splinter" settings? I do not understand the "used near the borders" statement.

 

[DonS]

Ok, do I make the table change to the "800MHz" or the "800 MHz Splinter" settings? I do not understand the "used near the borders" statement.

"Used near the borders" refers to the "Splinter" settings that are used in areas like San Diego, CA, where the "standard" 800 MHz bandplan would conflict with frequencies used in Mexico. To resolve that conflict, a "Splinter system" will have some/many/all of its frequencies offset by 12.5kHz from the "standard" 800 MHz frequencies.

If your "do I make the table change..." question above is referring to how to enter a "rebanded" 800 MHz bandplan into Win96... you could download the most recent version of that program from http://www.starrsoft.com and, after clicking the "Extended Tables" button on the bank you wish to edit, click on the "800 MHz Rebanded" radio button in the dialog box that appears. That will populate the table with data appropriate for a "rebanded" 800 MHz system.

 

[hcpholder]

"Used near the borders" refers to the "Splinter" settings that are used in areas like San Diego, CA, where the "standard" 800 MHz bandplan would conflict with frequencies used in Mexico. To resolve that conflict, a "Splinter system" will have some/many/all of its frequencies offset by 12.5kHz from the "standard" 800 MHz frequencies.

If your "do I make the table change..." question above is referring to how to enter a "rebanded" 800 MHz bandplan into Win96... you could download the most recent version of that program from http://www.starrsoft.com and, after clicking the "Extended Tables" button on the bank you wish to edit, click on the "800 MHz Rebanded" radio button in the dialog box that appears. That will populate the table with data appropriate for a "rebanded" 800 MHz system.

I am using the v1.57 software version, and I do not see a "800 MHz Rebanded" radio button. Did I miss a version update somewhere?

 

[DonS]

I am using the v1.57 software version, and I do not see a "800 MHz Rebanded" radio button. Did I miss a version update somewhere?

Yes. The most recent version is 1.58, from a couple of days ago.

 

[hcpholder]

"800 MHz Rebanding" Control Button

Yes. The most recent version is 1.58, from a couple of days ago.

Ok, I upgraded and have only one other question. In the new "800 MHz Rebanded" table, the last two (2) entries are swapped from what was shown in the original table setup by Wayne. Does this matter? Thanks.

 

[DonS]

Ok, I upgraded and have only one other question. In the new "800 MHz Rebanded" table, the last two (2) entries are swapped from what was shown in the original table setup by Wayne. Does this matter? Thanks.

No, that doesn't matter.

 

[fmon]

Thanks for the very nice addition in 1.58 Don.

 

[SCPD]

Sorry some how one of my posts ended up on the wrong thread.

 

[SCPD]

does any one know if u can directly down load frequiecies off this site to the pro96

The first step is to become a subscriber of Radio Reference. Web imports from this site are only available to subscribers. I doesn't take long to get what you paid for as large trunked systems take a very long time to enter into a PRO-96 file.

Once you become a subscriber, click on File at the top of the screen. From there it is just a process of choosing the options that are presented. Filling out the form is fairly straight forward, but will not work if you haven't become a subscriber. You can reach this form as a non-subscriber, but it won't work for you. The process is the same for the latest GRE and Radio Shack scanners.

 

[RoninJoliet]

Today i used Win96 (thank you Don) to reband my PRO96/2096 for NWCD which is in the northern suburbs of Chicago...Its a Analog-digital 3600baud 7 channel Motorola trunk system...I clicked on3600-800mgz-multi-table and then proceded to load the two lines here in the first posting for the two freqy's-base-offset-CHlo-CH-hi etc...I erased the others as there are no freqys above 853mgz...I downloaded this info to the PRO96....I live 50 miles from Arlington Hts IL and will visit there in a week to see if it works...From all accounts Motorola changed the freqy # ing order there....If my procedure does not sound correct feel free to respond...I will report back if it does not work....