PSP VHF and narrowbanding

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GTR8000

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We all know the PSP has by and large migrated to the OpenSky system, with occasional fallback usage on the VHF system. That's no longer in question.

However what I find interesting is that the state has very recently modified 75 of the PSP VHF licenses to add 11K0F3E (narrowband) emission designators on all frequencies. One large batch was done in March, the other in June, and there are a few applications still pending.

Now perhaps I'm reading too much into this, given the fact that a lot of public safety agencies continually renew their licenses for frequencies they haven't used in years or decades, simply because it doesn't cost them a dime in renewal fees. However I've read several "reports" that the PSP is going to pull all the VHF equipment prior to the Jan 1st 2013 narrowband deadline, rather than replace the existing equipment with narrowband compliant radios.

This effort to modify all these licenses so they're narrowband compliant (on paper at least) has me wondering if the information about the VHF radios being pulled was incorrect hearsay, or if the state has reconsidered their decision. It stands to reason that the bugs in OpenSky and lack of complete coverage will never be fully worked out, which is one big reason I can see the PSP pushing to keep their VHF equipment. The other reason is the fact that most of the local jurisdictions in the state will be operating on VHF for years to come. Many of those jurisdictions allow the PSP to operate on their local frequencies for interops. And of course we have the 155.475 national interop frequency many of them operate on. If the VHF radios go away, so to does that VHF interop capability.

So I guess the question is, will the PSP be making more than just a paper license change as far as bringing their VHF system into narrowband compliance? I guess only time will tell.
 

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If I had to guess, I'd agree with what you stated about local agencies using VHF for their PD ops as well as the national freq. I have a hard time seeing the PSP in my area getting rid of their VHF equipment for a few reasons - one, it costs money for people to rip that equipment out of all their cars/trucks/SUVs and two, if OpenSky fails, they could still use the VHF backup system as an emergency backup. Now, of course, there is still monies involved in updating the radios to narrowband, especially the ones that do not have NFM compliant radios which I know a lot of them have. So, there, in lies another question - yes they updated their license to NFM but are they going to spend the money to replace all the non-NFM radios?
 

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Yes they might finally allow locals to have access to their old freqs for interop with them since they now use them in a secondary capacity.

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I recently interviewed with PSP Communications for a position. Spoke to someone very knowledgeable while there about the radio system and VHF isn't going away any time soon. Don't fret over it...
 

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I recently interviewed with PSP Communications for a position. Spoke to someone very knowledgeable while there about the radio system and VHF isn't going away any time soon. Don't fret over it...

Yes, Tommahawk I have heard the same thing. Surely will still need VHF with the interops. coming out like the V-TAC system. Also, we have the national PD and "Regional" police network in the 17 counties in central PA.
 

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I recently interviewed with PSP Communications for a position. Spoke to someone very knowledgeable while there about the radio system and VHF isn't going away any time soon. Don't fret over it...

I don't remember if I posted it earlier, but back in the spring, I was talking to a tech at Transcore who told me they were in the process of swapping out the old VHF equipment and replacing it with new narrowband equipment, so the mobiles will still be there, anyway.
 

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I don't remember if I posted it earlier, but back in the spring, I was talking to a tech at Transcore who told me they were in the process of swapping out the old VHF equipment and replacing it with new narrowband equipment, so the mobiles will still be there, anyway.

Thanks for the latest update, Ben. I guess the only remaining questions now is, whether or not they swap out the base stations.
 

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Was picking up PSPA (Avondale) loud and clear in North Coventry Twp this morning on the good ol' 155
 

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Been hearing Chambersburg doing radio checks on the old system as well as McConnellsburg and just today I heard Carlisle on the old system briefly.
 
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