Putnam County, NY 700mhz Goes Live 04/29/25

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I keep getting a error message that file is to large for server to process
Did you read my previous reply to you? There is no file to upload. You submit plain text info using the link on the database page.

In any event, I just added a ton of talkgroups submitted by someone else, so I think we're good for now.
 

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My apologies if it's been covered elsewhere but I couldn't find what the plan is for Fire paging in the future. Will they scrap low band paging on 46.38 and move to VHF or UHF analog ? (I know it's simulcasted to p25 currently)
 

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My apologies if it's been covered elsewhere but I couldn't find what the plan is for Fire paging in the future. Will they scrap low band paging on 46.38 and move to VHF or UHF analog ? (I know it's simulcasted to p25 currently)
They'll be moving to VHF paging eventually. In fact, the infrastructure is already in place and ready to go. They're just working on which frequency to use as more agencies move to 700 which will free up that target channel.
 

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I understand that this is a "new" system, but looking at the list of talkgroups in the database, and then looking at the coverage map Putnam TRS coverage map , I was wondering how the these locations:
West Med Hospital (Valhalla - TG2097)
Phelps Hospital (Sleepy Hollow - TG2094)
Vassar Brothers Medical Center (Poughkeepsie - TG2096)
MidHudson Regional Hospital (Poughkeepsie - TG2092)
are able to connect to the system, since these locations are significantly outside of Putnam County.

Looking at the coverage map, these locations should not be accessible to the system. Wondering if anyone has heard any of these talkgroups used. Again, I know the system is "new", just that I saw these talkgroups and it begged the question.
 
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@Alarms50 as you well know, the "coverage map" shown in the RRDB is a very rough approximation of a perfect circle around what should be the approximate center point of the system's coverage. It cannot be taken seriously in providing any real world indication of system coverage, rather it's meant for scanner users and hobbyists to get a general sense of where the system might be receivable.

That said, yes, some of those hospital facilities would normally be out of routine coverage, or on the very fringe. It's possible with a yagi on a rooftop a subsite with a strong signal could be received well enough, however that doesn't do much good for the mobile units that will supposedly be calling in on those talkgroups. I'm not sure if the system has SmartConnect, but that could be another option.

Or perhaps the hospital talkgroups are mostly pie-in-the-sky as is the case with the Orange system, where they were created but were never implemented. In the early days of the Rockland system, both Nyack and GSH would answer their trunked radios, but that quickly stopped due to the availability and widespread use of reporting apps, or the preference for a phone call instead of radio.

It's extremely early on in the life of the system to draw any conclusions, but I suspect there won't be much activity on most of those hospital talkgroups.
 

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Activity on all the hospital TGs has been very slim to none per UT so far. I do not expect much, if any, activity on the hospital TGs because some will landline the ER or still use any of the NY MED VHF Channels, including 155.34.

EDIT: There was a hit today on the Hudson Valley Hospital TG, but it was just the ambulance trying to talk to the ER, with no response from the ER so maybe the hospitals don't even have the radios or resources yet.
 
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I understand that this is a "new" system, but looking at the list of talkgroups in the database, and then looking at the coverage map Putnam TRS coverage map , I was wondering how the these locations:
West Med Hospital (Valhalla - TG2097)
Phelps Hospital (Sleepy Hollow - TG2094)
Vassar Brothers Medical Center (Poughkeepsie - TG2096)
MidHudson Regional Hospital (Poughkeepsie - TG2092)
are able to connect to the system, since these locations are significantly outside of Putnam County.

Looking at the coverage map, these locations should not be accessible to the system. Wondering if anyone has heard any of these talkgroups used. Again, I know the system is "new", just that I saw these talkgroups and it begged the quest
I pick the system up on Long Island Nassau county no issues antenna is up about 100' , the coverage map is just a general area guess i assume
 

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I pick the system up on Long Island Nassau county no issues antenna is up about 100' , the coverage map is just a general area guess i assume

The coverage maps on the database for trunking sites or systems are just operational estimates. In not way reflect real world propagation.
 

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I pick the system up on Long Island Nassau county no issues antenna is up about 100' , the coverage map is just a general area guess i assume

Also elevations of sites, towers, and antennas are all in meters. Some quick conversion math puts a few of their antennas at 1400 to 1500 feet above sea level. Your scanner antenna up 100 feet is a big help as well. 👍
 

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@Alarms50 as you well know, the "coverage map" shown in the RRDB is a very rough approximation of a perfect circle around what should be the approximate center point of the system's coverage. It cannot be taken seriously in providing any real world indication of system coverage, rather it's meant for scanner users and hobbyists to get a general sense of where the system might be receivable.

That said, yes, some of those hospital facilities would normally be out of routine coverage, or on the very fringe. It's possible with a yagi on a rooftop a subsite with a strong signal could be received well enough, however that doesn't do much good for the mobile units that will supposedly be calling in on those talkgroups. I'm not sure if the system has SmartConnect, but that could be another option.

Or perhaps the hospital talkgroups are mostly pie-in-the-sky as is the case with the Orange system, where they were created but were never implemented. In the early days of the Rockland system, both Nyack and GSH would answer their trunked radios, but that quickly stopped due to the availability and widespread use of reporting apps, or the preference for a phone call instead of radio.

It's extremely early on in the life of the system to draw any conclusions, but I suspect there won't be much activity on most of those hospital talkgroups.
I was driving through Poughkeesie this morning and was able to pick up Putnam okayish using a Unication G5. I'm sure a proper mobile subscriber might not have an issue if transporting to the Poughkeepsie Hospitals.
 

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I was driving through Poughkeesie this morning and was able to pick up Putnam okayish using a Unication G5. I'm sure a proper mobile subscriber might not have an issue if transporting to the Poughkeepsie Hospitals.
But Poughkeepsie is outside the RRDB coverage area, so surely you're wrong! 🤡
 

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For continuity purposes I put this here since it's Putnam County related, Putnam County 911 has begun dispatching Fire & Ems on 155.9850 DPL 423. Low band is still on for now.
What impact is this having on the already in place .985 use on 107.2 for the SO? Or it that moot because they're already operational on the TRS?
 

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PCSO is operating 100% on the trunk system. The VHFs are still active as a patch from the system.
 

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The VHFs are still active as a patch from the system.
I assume that excludes 155.985 now that it's the simulcast paging channel? If someone can confirm that 107.2 PL "911 East" is officially dead, please submit so we can deprecate that channel in the database.
 

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Kinda off topic but looking for help. Programmed the Putnam system into my SDS200 which has stock base antenna and it's not picking up any traffic at all. Picking up MTA system and Westchester System no problem. Not sure what the problem is and if anyone experienced this problem.
 
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