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RadioReference Receives a DMCA Takedown Notice from Priority Dispatch Corp.
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Yup, just did that. I can't believe they want you to take that down.
This. I can FOIA every LE agency in Utah that uses it. I can also hear them using the codes over the air all day and make my own list. I don't think he has a chance of holding up if it ever went to court. No, we can't post technical specifications but the codes and wording on the air are absolutely fair game.
jaymatt1978
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@blantonl You're right on both counts the First Amendment issue AND the Copyright issue. I'm a writer and have dealt with copyright issues for years, and actually have had work stolen and/or fought for proper credit. If I were you I'd offer an olive branch and give them credit for providing the information let them say it's theirs and people can still copy it or do whatever with it. So long as you give them credit, they should leave you alone. If you offer that and they reject it, then screw them, they're bullies and are trying to shake you down. I'm not siding with them I'm just trying to give you what I see is the quickest way out of this mess. I'd really be curious to know how your lawyers respond!
saved as a html lol
KB1JHU
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There are a lot of people that don't seem to understand what the system is and how it is used. Also, the system and it's components are their intellectual property. There are competitor systems out there from APCO and PowerPhone (and maybe others) so they're protective.
The Priority Dispatch system has nothing to do with how things are said over the air. That is an agency problem. EMD/EPD/EFD are not CAD systems, they are caller interrogation protocols.
They regularly update the system with things like changes to questions or adding/removing questions. This leads to changes in determinant codes and what they mean.
That sounds like agency training problems. If the answer to a question is obvious or already answered, the question doesn't have to be asked. As far as responders getting the determinant code, that's also an agency thing. Our units will see the codes on their MDT but that's just because it is integrated into the CAD system. We never give the determinant code over the air or refer to it in any way, there's no point, the responders don't care. They just want plain English of what they are going for and that is what they get. At our agency, the determinant codes are linked to a response in the CAD to determine what units are to respond.
More agency/training problems. The first question for case entry on all 3 protocols is "What's the address of the emergency?"
I would suggest everyone copy and save the information in case it goes away.
Back in the early 80s Dr. Clawson developed, publicized, and began to market the MPDS. Since then, Priority Dispatch Corp, the for-profit marketing arm of the International Academies of Emergency Dispatch (IAED) has aggressively pursued actions to protect its intellectual property.
I've been an IAED certified EMD since 1988, with a little break in the 90s. I've watched IAED/PDC morph into the overkill behemoth that it is today.
Sounds like your lawyer is doing due diligence. I would also check into those agencies that push CAD dispatch information, including IAED codes, over platforms like EDispatches, I Am Responding, and Pulse Point. This stuff is more in the public domain than they think. Could you copyright 10-codes?
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I've been an IAED certified EMD since 1988, with a little break in the 90s. I've watched IAED/PDC morph into the overkill behemoth that it is today.
Sounds like your lawyer is doing due diligence. I would also check into those agencies that push CAD dispatch information, including IAED codes, over platforms like EDispatches, I Am Responding, and Pulse Point. This stuff is more in the public domain than they think. Could you copyright 10-codes?
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Do NOT under any circumstances copy and paste everything from the Wiki into a word document and save it on your computer. Do NOT do it ‼️‼️🤫
You mean like this?
rogueangel2k
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This is effin hilarious. To pastebin it goes. If you're not selling this info and not making money off of it... pfft... tell them to kick rocks.
Reads more to me like an extortion attempt then a notification of a copyright violation from my outsiders point of view. Now if a competitor were using the same codes for their system I could see it having teeth but just posting what the codes are that are already known by hundreds if not thousands of people that use the system, seems like they are on shaky ground to make it stick unless they have a judge in their pocket.
As an admin for a number of years on a lawn and garden forum we get notices from time to time about service literature postings. John Deere has always been the main one to fire off cease and desist warnings. But that would seem different as they are talking about printed manuals that are sold for a profit or made available to dealers via subscription. Also I have worked in the consumer electronics service field for 35 years and the manufactures there would warn us about sharing service bulletins and service literature that only warranty centers had access to via a subscription. But there again we are talking about printed documents.
They are venturing into the crazy world now of companies registering and attempting to profit on words and slang as their own. Just my non-legal speak thoughts on it.
As an admin for a number of years on a lawn and garden forum we get notices from time to time about service literature postings. John Deere has always been the main one to fire off cease and desist warnings. But that would seem different as they are talking about printed manuals that are sold for a profit or made available to dealers via subscription. Also I have worked in the consumer electronics service field for 35 years and the manufactures there would warn us about sharing service bulletins and service literature that only warranty centers had access to via a subscription. But there again we are talking about printed documents.
They are venturing into the crazy world now of companies registering and attempting to profit on words and slang as their own. Just my non-legal speak thoughts on it.
Looks like it's time for the attorneys...
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The problem with things like this is it could be perfectly legal to have the documents on RR as they are but the complaining party can sue which will cost a lot to fight and sometimes end with ridiculous outcomes.
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