RadioReference Receives a DMCA Takedown Notice from Priority Dispatch Corp.

[blantonl]

We've decided we're not going to remove the content. This letter was sent today in response.

April 19, 2022

VIA EMAIL: Simón Cantarero <Simon.Cantarero@prioritydispatch.net>

Priority Dispatch Corp.
Legal Department - J. Simón Cantarero
110 South Regent Street, Suite 500
Salt Lake City, UT 84111 USA

RE: Notice of Infringement Dated April 18, 2022
Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998 (DMCA)

Dear Mr. Cantaroro:

RadioReference.com LLC declines your request to remove the content posted at the following URL:

Priority Dispatch Codes - The RadioReference Wiki

We would like to remind you that it is not legal, financially viable, or ethical, to claim that someone has infringed your copyright when this has not occurred. When you send a DMCA takedown notice that is both false and meant in bad faith, you have committed perjury. When filing a DMCA takedown request, your organization has a legal duty to consider fair-use of the materials contained in the above referenced URL.

Sincerely,

Lindsay Blanton
Chief Executive Officer

 

[mshumeyk]

Furthermore, it’s worth noting that the information published on your website is outdated and inaccurate, and would be considered potentially dangerous if used or relied on by PSAPs, responders, or the general public.

This is a major concern. For example, if someone is witnesses a cardiac arrest and grabs their phone to open radio reference to find the proper medical dispatch code to provide to 911 they might be so flustered that they instead of saying "we need EMS for a 9-Echo-1" they might inadvertently say they need help with a 26-omega-7 (difficulty sleeping).

In all seriousness, this information is not the Secret Coca-Cola recipe locked away in Atlanta nor is it a list of passwords to sensitive documents. Our county uses these dispatch codes, but it isn't hard for a dedicated listener to compile the plain language meanings of the most commonly used codes. The first day they went in use I figured out that Alpha was minor and Echo most critical. The county dispatchers first announce the call in plain English and then add the code at the end. When PD's are dispatched as well or request EMS they use plain English. The EMS units report the patient's condition/injuries to the ED via radio also in plain English. I honestly never figured out the value of these codes in our combined volunteer/paid EMS region.

 

[prcguy]

Bravo Lindsay! But I would have included some additional wording in your letter such as "I've wiped myself with a copy of your complaint and I don't trust your attorney's, especially ones who use their first initial then middle name. Like the middle name will somehow make me cringe with remorse for something I haven't done. Or his mama gave him a bad first name so he ain't gonna use it. Nope, no sir".

 

[trentbob]

We've decided we're not going to remove the content. This letter was sent today in response.

April 19, 2022

VIA EMAIL: Simón Cantarero <Simon.Cantarero@prioritydispatch.net>

Priority Dispatch Corp.
Legal Department - J. Simón Cantarero
110 South Regent Street, Suite 500
Salt Lake City, UT 84111 USA

RE: Notice of Infringement Dated April 18, 2022
Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998 (DMCA)

Dear Mr. Cantaroro:

RadioReference.com LLC declines your request to remove the content posted at the following URL:

Priority Dispatch Codes - The RadioReference Wiki

We would like to remind you that it is not legal, financially viable, or ethical, to claim that someone has infringed your copyright when this has not occurred. When you send a DMCA takedown notice that is both false and meant in bad faith, you have committed perjury. When filing a DMCA takedown request, your organization has a legal duty to consider fair-use of the materials contained in the above referenced URL.

Sincerely,

Lindsay Blanton
Chief Executive Officer

Good... Short and concise, you told him to go pound sand. Do you really think they're going to litigate when they don't have a leg to stand on and could get in serious trouble in front of a judge?

I have to say, I do like the fact that it's transparent and in the open on the forum.

 

[blantonl]

The most classic legal back and forth is attached. There are times when I wish I could use this approach, but it might get me in trouble. I dunno.

 

[trentbob]

The most classic legal back and forth is attached. There are times when I wish I could use this approach, but it might get me in trouble. I dunno.

View attachment 119987View attachment 119988

Yeah, why throw gas on the fire.

 

[PrivatelyJeff]

Yeah, why throw gas on the fire.

because some of us like to watch the world burn

 

[dave3825]

This is a major concern. For example, if someone is witnesses a cardiac arrest and grabs their phone to open radio reference to find the proper medical dispatch code to provide to 911 they might be so flustered that they instead of saying "we need EMS for a 9-Echo-1" they might inadvertently say they need help with a 26-omega-7 (difficulty sleeping).

Seriously?

 

[PrivatelyJeff]

Seriously?

no

 

[Omega-TI]

Seriously?

I'm guessing that good natured sarcasm. I doubt anyone in their right mind, especially during an emergency, would take time out to look up dispatch codes to relay to the 911 operator.

 

[PrivatelyJeff]

I'm guessing that good natured sarcasm. I doubt anyone in their right mind, especially during an emergency, would take time out to look up dispatch codes to relay to the 911 operator.

Especially considering they can hardly ever tell the dispatcher where they’re at

 

[mshumeyk]

Seriously?

The first three words in my second paragraph "In all seriousness" are a thinly veiled clue that my first paragraph is total sarcasm. I was pointing out the ridiculousness of some of the allegations in the letter to our Radioreference founder.

 

[6079smithw]

I'm eternally grateful to have a Doctor who simply asks: "Tell Me Where It Hurts" instead of requiring some
ridiculous mumbo-jumbo-gadget-code...

 

[INDY72]

They will do death by a thousand cuts. File this, that, other and make each step cost Lindsay. After twenty years of having to do minor court battles over this with no real outcome it will cost Lindsay as much as possible. That is the plan. Keep watching this as it is not going away.

 

[dave3825]

The first three words in my second paragraph "In all seriousness" are a thinly veiled clue that my first paragraph is total sarcasm. I was pointing out the ridiculousness of some of the allegations in the letter to our Radioreference founder.

Lmao
My "Seriously?" was meant to be "Seriously!" like in agreeing with you. Not sure what happened.

 

[blantonl]

They will do death by a thousand cuts. File this, that, other and make each step cost Lindsay. After twenty years of having to do minor court battles over this with no real outcome it will cost Lindsay as much as possible. That is the plan. Keep watching this as it is not going away.

I think you underestimate how important these issues are to the owner of this business.

It would be a colossal waste of resources and time/money for Priority Dispatch Corp to pursue a DMCA Copyright claim against fair use of the ingredients of their protocol vs the chilling effect it could have on the entire business of RadioReference.

This is an issue of Priority Dispatch making a false copyright claim and extortion type money grab at as vs us protecting the very core of how our business operates. We are very well positioned and very well prepared.

 

[APX7500X2]

I think you underestimate how important these issues are to the owner of this business.

This is an issue of Priority Dispatch making a false copyright claim and extortion type money grab at as vs us protecting the very core of how our business operates. We are very well positioned and very well prepared.

After being certified with these people (Expired now) in EFD-EPD-EMD I can tell you from 1st hand experience they are ruthless *******s, they have a clause when you get certified that you cant say anything bad about them to anyone any way or they revoke your certs.
So Dispatchers that work in a center that uses this slow system have to shut up to keep their jobs
Its nice to see this out in the open as dispatchers on here could loose their jobs making any comment
Next they will look at every post on here then demand the real names of the users so they can see if they can screw them

 

[Omega-TI]

RR has more guts than me. I'd simply pull it down as not worth the effort, besides apparently the codes are different in different places, and if true, (if you can believe them) out of date. Then there is the fact that it's been copied so many times in the past two days, that it's "out there" for all who might be interested.

 

[dave3825]

Next they will look at every post on here then demand the real names of the users so they can see if they can screw them

Then there is the fact that it's been copied so many times in the past two days, that it's "out there" for all who might be interested.

Imagine if everyone posted the content on personal websites.

 

[blantonl]

After being certified with these people (Expired now) in EFD-EPD-EMD I can tell you from 1st hand experience they are ruthless *******s, they have a clause when you get certified that you cant say anything bad about them to anyone any way or they revoke your certs.
So Dispatchers that work in a center that uses this slow system have to shut up to keep their jobs
Its nice to see this out in the open as dispatchers on here could loose their jobs making any comment
Next they will look at every post on here then demand the real names of the users so they can see if they can screw them

They better be prepared to have subponeas issued to us from a court that has jurisdiction over us, otherwise, we don't release the details of any user to ANYONE without such a subpoena or court order. Period. End of story.