Rail police VHF?

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I know that nypd transit moved to uhf some years ago, i remember my HT1250 use to be non stop with the AAR channels in manhattan with police activity,
But now that their gone to UHF, what are the most active AAR police channels in NYC?
 

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this is pretty much everything you need to listen to anything that goes on in nyc with trains

160.3200 LIRR PD Penn Station F4
160.3250 AMTRAK Maintenance of Way
160.3350 Metro-North Emergency Ch 6 Grand Central Terminal
160.3800 LIRR Road 1 Train/tower
160.3800 LIRR PD Police/Road Portables F2
160.3950 LIRR Track Welding
160.3950 NYCTA Coney Island Yard Tower A
160.4100 Metro-North Signals & Maintenance Ch 3
160.4550 LIRR PD Main Operations F1
160.4850 NYCTA Staten Island RT Maintenance Subway
160.5000 NYCTPD Bronx F2 Subway Transit
160.5150 AMTRAK Maintenance of Way
160.5450 Metro-North Car Maintenance Ch 5
160.5600 CONRAIL Police F3 Secondary
160.6050 LIRR PD Unit/Unit Mobiles F2
160.6800 CONRAIL Police F4 Primary
160.6950 NYCTPD RMP's F6 Partol Cars Subway Transit
160.7250 LIRR Maintenance of way Buildings & Bridges
160.7750 AMTRAK Car Maintenance Sunnyside
160.7850 LIRR Maintenance of Way Portables
160.8000 AMTRAK Road F1 Primary
160.8000 CONRAIL Trains F1 Primary
160.8150 AMTRAK Police F2
160.8450 NYCTA S. Brooklyn Railroad
160.8450 NYCTA Yard IND BMT IRT Subway
160.8600 CONRAIL Yards
160.8750 NYCTA Coney Island Yard BMT IND
160.8950 NYCTA Coney Island Yard Tower B
160.9050 NYCTPD Manhattan F4 Subway Transit
160.9650 NYCTPD Queens F3 Subway Transit
160.9800 CONRAIL Yards
161.0250 NYCTA Coney Island Yard
161.0700 AMTRAK Road F2 Secondary
161.0700 CONRAIL Trains F2 Secondary
161.0700 Metro-North Trains Secondary Ch2
161.1300 CONRAIL Maintenance Signals Buildings Bridges
161.1600 Metro-North Power Control Ch 4
161.1900 NYCTA Div A IRT Subway
161.2050 AMTRAK Police F4 Unit/Unit
161.2200 Metro-North Police
161.2650 LIRR Road 3 Freight/Yards
161.2800 Metro-North Trains Road Ch 1
161.2950 AMTRAK Police F3 Main
161.3250 AMTRAK Car Maintenance Penn Station
161.3400 CONRAIL Police Mobile PBX
161.3850 LIRR Signal & Communication
161.4300 CONRAIL Movements Desk
161.4450 LIRR Road 2 Train/Dispatcher LIRR PD F2
161.5050 NYCTA Div B1 BMT Subway
161.5350 LIRR Road 4 Car Maintenance
161.5500 CONRAIL Police Vehicle Repeater
161.5650 NYCTA S. Brooklyn Railroad
161.5650 NYCTA Div B2 BMT Subway
 

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I know that nypd transit moved to uhf some years ago, i remember my HT1250 use to be non stop with the AAR channels in manhattan with police activity,
But now that their gone to UHF, what are the most active AAR police channels in NYC?
Transit is still on VHF, there is a UHF simulcast as of right now.
 

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And the simulcast isn't even full duplex...

NYCRADIO,

Wow, where did you dig up such an old frequency list from?

156, check www.n2nov.net for something quite a bit more current (although still somewhat out-of-date). Scroll down on the home page about a third of the way and look for the caption, in black, "Metropolitan Transportation Authority." You'll find a host of hyperlinks under that that detail all of the rail operations under the MTA's control.

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n2nov,

Okay...well probably the most important update would be for the information under the blue caption at NYC TRANSIT

Manhattan South - Division 1 covers Districts 1, 2, and 4.
Queens - Division 3 covers Districts 20 and 23
Brooklyn East - Division 3 covers District 33
Brooklyn South - Division 4 covers Districts 30, 32, and 34

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160.3200 MTAPD PN (Penn & Flatbush Station)
160.4550 MTAPD E1 (LIRR)
160.6050 MTAPD E2 (LIRR car to car)
161.2200 MTAPD N1 (Metro North)
160.5600 MTAPD N2 (MNR car to car)

155.7600 MTAPD (test repeater not in use)

161.2800 Metro North (Harlem Line RTC)
160.9500 Metro North (Hudson Line RTC)
160.5450 Metro North (New Haven Line RTC)

The MTAPD created in 1998 merging the LIRR PD and Metro North RR PD, now including the former Staten Island Rapid Transit PD. Regretfully the MTAPD overlooked their outdated system and is now working on improvements.
The MTAPD in Staten Island still uses the SIRT dispatch (UHF) and monitor NYPD 120, 122, 123,
 

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I would also like to put out there the question of, does NYC Transit still use split simplex for their subway lines? I worked for a contractor in the mid 80's that replaced all the simplex Motorola train radios, based on the HT200 with a custom GE that had split simplex channels for each line, IRT, BMT and IND. They were old N.Y.P.D. channels from the Brooklyn area, in the 151 and 158 mhz area. It was supposed to correct the train to train chatter by the engineers and give dispatch the capability to override a train transmission if it was needed .
 

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Well S.I. is going to the N.Y.S.P. 800 system very soon. I hope it works down there! It would have better to install a VHF repeater on their existing frequency for that yard.
Do you have any source on that? Or is it a speculation?
 

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160.3200 MTAPD PN (Penn & Flatbush Station)
160.4550 MTAPD E1 (LIRR)
160.6050 MTAPD E2 (LIRR car to car)
161.2200 MTAPD N1 (Metro North)
160.5600 MTAPD N2 (MNR car to car)

155.7600 MTAPD (test repeater not in use)

161.2800 Metro North (Harlem Line RTC)
160.9500 Metro North (Hudson Line RTC)
160.5450 Metro North (New Haven Line RTC)

The MTAPD created in 1998 merging the LIRR PD and Metro North RR PD, now including the former Staten Island Rapid Transit PD. Regretfully the MTAPD overlooked their outdated system and is now working on improvements.
The MTAPD in Staten Island still uses the SIRT dispatch (UHF) and monitor NYPD 120, 122, 123,
You mentioned that the MTAPD is working on improvements to their radio system and I happened to come across the MTA Capital Plan for 2010-2014 and found a little bit of information about a dedicated MTAPD radio network that they want to implement.

Public Safety Radio – Phase 2 - $60 million
The goal of this investment is to have a dedicated MTA Police public safety radio system, built
seamlessly to ensure systemwide radio coverage, allowing future interoperability among
participating agencies and standardization of one system for the MTA Police. The 2005-2009
Capital Program included $45 million to fund design and early construction work intended to
integrate the MTA police radio system with the New York State Wireless Network. However,
with the future of this statewide system uncertain, alternative approaches for integrating the
MTA Police system are being evaluated; design and construction will be advanced upon
completion of this evaluation.
http://www.mta.info/news/pdf/cap10/capital_program.pdf

There was also some information in there about the LIRR and the improvments that they want to do to their system such as narrowband and P25.
 

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I wouldn't be looking for any improvements in the near future due to the total ineptness of the past MTA . The monies that were allocated several times (both in the millions) was spent on other things before they got a chance to use it for the radio upgrades. Now with the financial fix they are in and the failed NYS SWEN system (which they were betting on) they have a problem. Until they straighten out their in house mess I wouldn't count on any fix coming soon.
 

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I wouldn't be looking for any improvements in the near future due to the total ineptness of the past MTA . The monies that were allocated several times (both in the millions) was spent on other things before they got a chance to use it for the radio upgrades. Now with the financial fix they are in and the failed NYS SWEN system (which they were betting on) they have a problem. Until they straighten out their in house mess I wouldn't count on any fix coming soon.
Well hopefully this time they are actually use the money that they have allocated towards a new radio system. From what it sounds like it seems like the current system is antiquated and that they could really use an upgrade I wonder if the MTAPD is going to have any talkgroups on the new MTA wide area LTR system?
 
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