RCMP PACS Changes

[beeperboy]

A15 Moose Mtn is back on the air. The "tech" fixed it.

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[harryshute]

Score another one for PACS radios. RCMP have credited a PACS radio for saving the life of a member fired on in Fort McMurray. It happened in an apartment building when his female police partner was shot in the torso. The male member was able to employ deadly force against the attacker when the bullet intended for him hit the radio. I hope the radio ends up in a museum.

ASIRT has ruled that the police shooting was justified.

EXCLUSIVE - RCMP justified killing man - ASIRT - iNews880.com

 

[Jay911]

What brand and type of radio was it? IIRC the officers here don't use Motorola handhelds but I've never been able to figure out what they are. GE perhaps.

 

[harryshute]

I thought they were Motorola but could be wrong. For quite some time they have been having trouble obtaining replacement models that transmit the ANI number when you hit the RTT button. Perhaps another supplier has solved their supply problem.

 

[beeperboy]

It's either a Moto Sabre or XTS5000

 

[harryshute]

This weekend I heard a M (Mike unit) on B4 near Morinville. It turned out to be a Sheriff Motorcycle unit.

 

[harryshute]

Any idea what the Kilo units are? Heard in Leduc and Morinville.

 

[robertmac]

Real wild guess here, but could it have anything to do with bringing back helicopters for speed control? I know their helicopters and planes have been around for a while and were used for speed enforcement years ago.

 

[kayn1n32008]

I would bet that only fixed wing will be used for speed enforcement... Helicopters do not have the endurance, are way more expensive to fly and maintain.


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[kayn1n32008]

It's either a Moto Sabre or XTS5000

Agreed, the sabre's are starting to go away, being replaced with XTS5k. As an example, Stoneyplain still has Sabre's but Whitecourt is all XTS5k. Guessing that the Sabres are slowly being replaced.


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[harryshute]

Good thought but K70 was a ground unit that backed up a Morinville car and K20 was going to Leduc.
Helicopter Mike Papa Papa identifies with it's call sign. Don't know why they will be leasing helicopters for the speed enforcement instead of the fixed wing units they used to use. They used AC 1 for those units and stayed on the two designated radio channels. Fixed wing flying an orbit would be cheaper.

 

[robertmac]

As for radio models, can't really comment as have never really looked into this. I did hear comments with the High River emergency on 155.52 they were explaining to their officers how to operate the "new" radios and to ensure analog mode selected and not digital.

 

[harryshute]

Kilo Units

RCMP ERT units are now using the Kilo callsign. The old callsign was Zulu. These units are full time members stationed at various detachments.

 

[Jay911]

RCMP ERT units are now using the Kilo callsign. The old callsign was Zulu. These units are full time members stationed at various detachments.

Does that include PDS (police dog services)? I heard a kilo callsign the other day but thought it was a dog man.

 

[harryshute]

AFAIK PSD are still Echo units but that could have changed too.

It used to be ERT members would rush to Edmonton from their detachments to get their vehicles and gear. Now the Kilo cars are embedded in the detachments and can respond quicker. They also attend regular calls as well when not deployed.

I finally made the connection last night listening to the RCMP officer involved shooting in the Tofield area. I will try to confirm whether PSD has changed as well.

 

[harryshute]

RCMP 421.4375

421.4375 shows in the database as VIP. Here in Edmonton it is used by Security in K Division HQ identifying as Echo Oscar units. Formerly it was used by EDPS (Executive Diplomatic Protection Service) which was shut down in Edmonton once all diplomatic offices moved to Calgary.

Is it still used for EDPS in Calgary? Is it clear voice as it is here or ENC?

 

[Jay911]

I have not received any comms on 421.4375 t123.0 in ages, and the channel's un-avoided and active in my scan list.

Should I be searching other tones or perhaps P25?

 

[harryshute]

I'd try P25 but it's analog with that tone here. That being said it's not being used for diplomatic protection in Edmonton. Perhaps in Calgary they have moved to the VP Cord channels. There wasn't very much traffic on the channel here but the cars had call signs like 1E35. If still on 421.4375 I'd bet they are now ENC.

 

[rjgillies]

Lloydminster detachment shift

For those of you who keep an eye on the eastern border the Lloydminster detachment will be moving starting the Thanksgiving weekend to their new facility on the Alberta side.

Located just west of City Hall on highway 16 in the centre of the city it will be a mega-improvement in terms of space with lots of growth capacity (see the press release http://www.lloydminster.ca/ArchiveCenter/ViewFile/Item/1068)

Currently there is only a whip antenna on the building with the B16 repeater located elsewhere. Testing has been heard from the new location and is a little scratchy but the techs are working on things.

No word on the Saskatchewan rural members but I assume they will be moving as well since the old building will be refurbished as a youth centre with the addition of a gymnasium.

 

[TRENT310]

Is anyone else around here keeping track of MDC1200 IDs being used on PACS? I log them as I hear them and then store them with the alpha tag so they resolve to the patrol unit number or portable number whenever a member goes to RTT or 10-33. These are the ones I've collected throughout my travels so far...

The MDC1200 signal protocol is often quite resilient to noise in the way that I'll see these decoding correctly on my radio even though I can't copy any of the audio at all.