San Diego County encryption

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Thanks, Paul. I wonder if this means that we will soon see the Interoperability and Mutual Aid talkgroups go the same route....

I have talked with many in law enforcement that have requested to their upper ups they want the mutual channels encrypted. Even the patrol Sgts hate when they have a K9 assist that their encrypted comms all of a sudden become patched to unencrypted talkgroups, and their concern has nothing to do with PII or officer safety. I did hear a story from a cop of an Oceanside SWAT raid a short while back where the suspect had multiple physical scanners set up for each of that agencies talkgroups including the SWAT channel!

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I have talked with many in law enforcement that have requested to their upper ups they want the mutual channels encrypted. Even the patrol Sgts hate when they have a K9 assist that their encrypted comms all of a sudden become patched to unencrypted talkgroups, and their concern has nothing to do with PII or officer safety. I did hear a story from a cop of an Oceanside SWAT raid a short while back where the suspect had multiple physical scanners set up for each of that agencies talkgroups including the SWAT channel!

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Encrypting the MA/Interop channels won't solve the fact that OPD's SWAT isn't full time encrypted lol. I can regularly hear some of them in the clear on it.
 

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Encrypting the MA/Interop channels won't solve the fact that OPD's SWAT isn't full time encrypted lol. I can regularly hear some of them in the clear on it.

Oside had a SWAT last week, AM raid...the dispatcher had to tell the unit he was encrypted and to flip his switch to clear before talking about secret SWAT business. :)

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Just heard Chula Vista engine 51 say "CLEARED IN ON PD RADIO". Correct me if I am wrong, but CVFD firefighters and paramedics are not CLETS authorized, and cannot legally monitor the encrypted comms? This is the excuse the agencies are giving the media why they are not permittted to allow us access, because only approved law enforcement entities are CLETS authorized.

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Kinda like Coronado PD and their Parking Enforcement driving fully marked black and white vehicles, operating the blue and red lights in public, unlimited access via MDC and Radio.The use of the lights are a no no since they are not Cert Peace Officers. CHP confirmed and confirmed their motor units should not be running a bunch of high power, bright blinding aux lights aimed in drivers POV unless used like takedown lights. If we did that we would be cited..
 

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So the race for Sheriff... I found Martinez' position on decrypting SDSO. Has anyone seen anything from Hemmerling? Most of the other candidates who made public statements regarding it are no longer on the ballot.
 

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So the race for Sheriff... I found Martinez' position on decrypting SDSO. Has anyone seen anything from Hemmerling? Most of the other candidates who made public statements regarding it are no longer on the ballot.

I can't seem to find anything for Hemmerling, but for those wondering, here's what's Martinez told East County Magazine:

"ECM asked if Martinez would restore public and media access to most traffic on scanners, which the Sheriff’s department has blocked since January. A new law requires that privacy information be encrypted, and while some law enforcement agencies kept everything else available to the public, the Sheriff has encrypted all scanner communications. “The media and the public need to know what’s going on as quickly as they can so that they can take action,” she said, but stopped short of agreeing to restore scanner access.

She did, however, note that the Sheriff just unveiled a live CAD that the public can access online at: Calls For Service It tells what incidents they are responding to and where in clear language, but it does not include details such as descriptions of suspects or whether there is an immediate public danger. “We will be improving it and suggestions are welcome.” She says for “officer safety reasons” they haven’t been able to transmit all data on scanners but said this is a “bridge” while “we’re trying to fix that.”
 

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“We will be improving it and suggestions are welcome.” She says for “officer safety reasons” they haven’t been able to transmit all data on scanners but said this is a “bridge” while “we’re trying to fix that.”
As a note, as far as I can tell we’re six months past that interview and they’ve made no changes to provide any more information on the Calls For Service site.
 

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She said citizens hearing their comms endangers officers, I don't think you need to wait for unencrypted.

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She said citizens hearing their comms endangers officers, I don't think you need to wait for unencrypted.

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A scene tonight, a pursuit termination, officers on SDPD Western came up on the radio and said "for officer safety, be advised the media is live streaming". Mind you real media, not cop watchers. I think this says a lot now that we are starting to get clarity that the public and the media being able to hear the scanner traffic puts the lives of officers in jeopardy. :-|

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I'm afraid there is more than just PII driving the encryption situation. It's the ever-increasing hatred for law enforcement that's a major factor as well.

I could go on and on about how society has caused this based on the upbringing of these new generations, but this is entirely the wrong venue for that.

Long story short: We did it to ourselves.
 

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Not the we on this forum

No, the we as in society. For as much crap as you have after your last name in your signature, you'd ought to know that. "Not the we on this form". Why even post that? FWIW, I've never seen anyone with "SME" after their last name other than you... That working for your ego?

I'd expect something like that out of Paul. Love you Paul.
 
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