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thanks for the reply and confirmation SDLG ids still unscrambled. I am receiving all now. I had my SDS100 set incorrectly. All good now, thanks again for confirming
 

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Seems now that ALL agencies except SDPD, have told the Union Tribune they will implimenting 100% full encryption. This includes La Mesa and Coronado, who tell the UT that it is too inconvinient or improactical to change to another channel in the event of a major incident as they do now.

Nail, meet coffin...coffin, say hello to nail.


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Seems now that ALL agencies except SDPD, have told the Union Tribune they will implimenting 100% full encryption. This includes La Mesa and Coronado, who tell the UT that it is too inconvinient or improactical to change to another channel in the event of a major incident as they do now.

Nail, meet coffin...coffin, say hello to nail.


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An oddly worded article. In one spot they say
The only agency in San Diego County that said it would not switch to full encryption was the San Diego Police Department
But then later they say
Only Chula Vista police and Harbor police announced their move toward encryption.

I’m kinda reading it as if SDPD is the only agency to respond with a firm “no” and everybody else just didn’t respond or said “maybe”.
 

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Comments included La Mesa and Coronado, who currently run "inquiry" operations on their dedicated 100% encryption Tacs 3 and 1 respectively. I read the article as they cannot continue to operate in that fashion.

As for "Several police officials said news media will continue to have access to information about emergencies. They pointed to various avenues their departments use to disseminate information: spokespersons, news releases, social media and Nixel, a platform that enables alerts via email and text messages.". See Chula Vista track record on how many days it takes them to press release children shot to death...24-48 hours.

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I'm still interested to get a real view of Oceanside's plans. To date, they're still the only people I hear actively and deliberately not repeating PII in the clear, whether on Dispatch or Inquiry. They either call it over the phone ("10-21 it") or "put it in the call". Given that they seem to already be in compliance with CLETS rule, I can't see a reason for them to use it as an excuse for full encryption.

(Though as I on the 4th weekend, they do seem to be having difficulty with encryption on some devices. A motor officer was complaining that he couldn't hear his sergeant who for some reason had encryption enabled while on his handheld, but the radio on his bike heard him just fine)
 

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news releases, social media and Nixel
Yeah... OPD's use of Nixle sure isn't exactly fast a lot of the time.

And Sheriffs can't seem to update AutoHelo with information a lot of the time. It's great that you tell us there is a number we can text to find out what the helicopter is saying, but when the message is "there are currently no active public announcements" when the thing is squawking over your head, that isn't really helpful.
 

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Seems now that ALL agencies except SDPD, have told the Union Tribune they will implimenting 100% full encryption. This includes La Mesa and Coronado, who tell the UT that it is too inconvinient or improactical to change to another channel in the event of a major incident as they do now.

Nail, meet coffin...coffin, say hello to nail.


Paul
Yeah, sad, end of an era...I did expect this, I have to say, but I figured we had another year or so. Oh well...

And right now that I have a fantastic receiver with incredible audio to track the system with, of course! But I have certainly started paying more attention to life guards and school bus drivers - to a degree they can be a good source of information about what is going on around the county.

Still...yeah, not good...

-Mike
 

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An oddly worded article. In one spot they say

But then later they say


I’m kinda reading it as if SDPD is the only agency to respond with a firm “no” and everybody else just didn’t respond or said “maybe”.

Well, it usually DOES HELP to read the whole thing. Even then, it's often easier to accept the reporters slant than the actual facts.
 

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"The Escondido Police Department, which switched to full encryption months before the order, worked with some news organizations to offer them encryption keys. But the bulletin "kind of killed (the plans) in the water there," Toth said."

This is accurate. We were in the process of getting Escondido encryption keys when the memo came out and were told it was no longer legally possible.

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Plain and simple. Encryption is a form of communism. Anybody saying it protects the police and fire workers are full of crap. If Joseph McCarthy was still around he would have all these idiots in congressional hearings.
 

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I'm still hearing Vista, NCO, and Santee dispatch. I know I heard Rural yesterday. Still also hear CBD and OCS PD's. I know it's not for long now based on what's been reported by Paul.

Fallbrook - unsure.

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No new encrypted talkgroups to report since we lost SDSU PD a few months ago.

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Might be an odd question, but did Oceanside suddenly go E last night? I was at a high school football game near on officer and realized my SDS100 had been silent for a bit, but heard a call over dispatch on his radio. Haven't heard anything on my SDS100 for Oceanside since.

EDIT: Literally seconds after I hit the button to post this I suddenly heard a call Dispatch 1 and now Inquiry. I think my scanner is messing with me.
 
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