Sarpy System

[realgeo]

Hello, NeFire242!

According to my listening notes, I recorded the following P25 ENCrypted TGs on the Sarpy county system:
761005, 754115, 738004, and 39256.

Now, I am pretty sure that the 7xxxxx TGs are probably "I-Call" TGs, but the 39256 TG was probably a system-assigned TG. I haven't see the 7xxxxx TGs since I disabled the I-Call option for that system in my BCD396T.

Good point about Eagle - I had forgotten that they were dispatched out of Lincoln. What frequency do they operate on?

And, you're right about the Nehawka people - they talk to Plattsmouth and unit to unit through the 154.385 machine, but they are still paged off of the unlicensed 453.400 repeater on the Union water tower. They use a 2.5sec/1sec timing on their paging tones.

I recall an accident incident on HW1, about 3 miles west of Murray. Both Murray and Nehawka were paged out, and couldn't talk to each other directly, except through the dispatcher in Plattsmouth, who was talking to Murray on 39.9 and to Nehawka on 154.385. The bad part is that the communication eventually erupted into a "this was OUR jurisdiction, we should've been in command" type of argument. Not very professional, if you ask me.

Thanks for the discussion. I really enjoy this board, but don't care too much for the threads where people are consumed with getting credit for this and that, or start flame wars. These forums should be used for intelligent discussion that hopefully allows others to learn something from the discourse!

RG

 

[NeFire242]

Yes I was at that call on Mynard Rd. Murray has hi-band in their squad so I'm not sure why they didn't talk directly on Cass Fire or to Plattsmouth on their channels.

There was a rescue call in Murray today and dispatch could not copy them on 39.9, so they advised Plattsmouth they were en route to Midlands Hosptial over Cass Co Fire.

 

[SCPD]

They are still paged off of the unlicensed 453.400 repeater on the Union water tower.

RG

I was wondering who was using this frequency. I only heard radio traffic when they were en route. I never heard them being paged. The only liceinse that I found around Omaha was for Valley Fire Dept. but they are one, as NeFire242 puts, the Douglas County Iterop with God system:lol:

 

[SCPD]

There was a rescue call in Murray today and dispatch could not copy them on 39.9, so they advised Plattsmouth they were en route to Midlands Hosptial over Cass Co Fire.

I heard the samething. Why doesn't Murray use 154.385 all the time in stead of 39.9 and leave it for Mutual Aid.

 

[NeFire242]

Murray's Fire Pagers are on low band, which is why. (And why they use 39.9, instead of 39.98 which is Fire Mutual Aid, I don't know).

Plus until they get done doing all of this 800MHz stuff and deciding on where to put the two open VHF channels it's all a mess. Eh... just be thankful that whatever is in use works I guess.

 

[NeFire242]

The only license that I found around Omaha was for Valley Fire Dept.

Yup and I most certainly make sure I have the 103.5 PL because I want to listen to just Cass County stuff and not Douglas. The Douglas digital sounds very distorted by the time it comes over their 453 freq. Not to mention they talk and talk.

 

[NeFire242]

According to my listening notes, I recorded the following P25 ENCrypted TGs on the Sarpy county system:
761005, 754115, 738004, and 39256.

Sorry to break it to ya bro, but those are user IDs on the system, not TGIDs.
And I have no idea how you come up with 39256, but that cannot be a TGID due to the fact it's in an invalid range, and not in hex. (i.e, you can't divide that by 16, etc). I would think your scanner wouldn't even allow you to enter such a number because it should be smart enough to know this. =\ hmmm.

 

[realgeo]

Good morning, guys!

Good discussion about Murray, Cass County, and Douglas in this thread!

Both 453.400 (Union QRT) and 453.325 (Weeping Water) share with repeaters in Douglas County. When you talk about listening to the Cass County repeater with the 103.5 tone, you're talking about Weeping Water - Union is running 100.0.

For those who don't know, Cass County does pager testing nightly between 1830 and 1900 on all of the county systems, including Union's repeater and Weeping Water's repeater.

NeFire242 - you're correct about Murray's 39.9 pagers. In fact, did you know that Murray has a "paging repeater" that receives the paging tones from Plattsmouth and then activates Murray's local paging encoder, which activates the pagers over Murray's transmitter? This was a solution that my father developed with Plectron engineers back when Plectron was still in business. Plattsmouth cannot activate Murray 39.9 pagers, due to Murray's location.

Question - it used to be that Murray Rescue was 732/1232 and Murray Fire was 732/1130 for paging tones. These days, I only hear 732/1130 - is Fire and Rescue paged off of the same population of pagers these days?

Here's another question - do you have a listing of the 2-tone paging frequencies for all of the departments in Cass County? I'd like to configure the "Fire Tone Out" feature in my 396T, but don't know any paging frequencies except for Murray's.

I think you're right about Murray - they're waiting until someone in Cass county figures out a comprehensive communication plan, and will join that at that time. The problem, until then, will be the same old problem - difficulty in communication. Is "Beater" Daly the Chief these days?

Finally, in retrospect, you're right about the 39256 TG - it shouldn't be valid, but my 396T displayed it. I generally run my 396T in "ID SEARCH" mode, instead of SCAN mode. This way, I can skim known and unknown TG's on any system I am listening to.

Thanks for the discussion!
George B.