SDS250 potential?

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I've decided I am holding out for the SDS250, assuming one will be released, before buying a 150. My 100 works fine for what it is, and my 436 makes up for the analog side the 100 has issues with.
 

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Gentlemen, your discussion is going nowhere. Please realize that Uniden is not here for you, but you are here for Uniden. The sales manager will determine what the future device will be equipped with and will mainly look at the laws and regulations of all countries where they intend to export this product. Since Uniden Japan became Uniden America, the requirements of traders and customers of the old continent have been ignored. I highly doubt that Uniden will develop an open source device that will allow the user to use alternative software, settings according to their ideas and options, which are defined by the telecommunications office of the country in which the device will be in operation. This thread is just a dead bug. Let's be glad that Uniden is trying to correct the mistakes it made when developing the SDS100/200. Hopefully we will also see it devote more attention to the RF circuits of the receivers than to their software equipment. And hopefully the Canadian and American frequency databases will also be abolished. Because one of the joys of using scanners is finding active frequencies yourself. Those who can't do that should educate themselves. This would also prevent stupid questions, which are the majority in this forum.
 

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Gentlemen, your discussion is going nowhere. Please realize that Uniden is not here for you, but you are here for Uniden. The sales manager will determine what the future device will be equipped with and will mainly look at the laws and regulations of all countries where they intend to export this product. Since Uniden Japan became Uniden America, the requirements of traders and customers of the old continent have been ignored. I highly doubt that Uniden will develop an open source device that will allow the user to use alternative software, settings according to their ideas and options, which are defined by the telecommunications office of the country in which the device will be in operation. This thread is just a dead bug. Let's be glad that Uniden is trying to correct the mistakes it made when developing the SDS100/200. Hopefully we will also see it devote more attention to the RF circuits of the receivers than to their software equipment. And hopefully the Canadian and American frequency databases will also be abolished. Because one of the joys of using scanners is finding active frequencies yourself. Those who can't do that should educate themselves. This would also prevent stupid questions, which are the majority in this forum.

^ Interesting post...
As somebody who was the first person to "work out" how to program our old statewide EDACS system and published this online, I can understand what you are saying but everybody benefits when knowledge is shared.

I am just glad Uniden are still making scanners and we can even have these discussions.

For me, HDMI output to put the scanner screen on a TV would be great, as would a option to plug in a keyboard ;)
 

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Seeing as the SDS150 has brought so many improvements, I wonder what if any, would a hypotetical SDS250, would have?

Would Uniden even consider making an SDS250?
Is the SDS150 worth the high cost? Been looking to upgrade from my last purchase of the TRX-1. Haven't had a Uniden in years. The features look awesome. Is the antenna any better than past ones?
 

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First off, Uniden doesn't have control of the database. This is a database maintained by RadioReference, with all data submitted by its users (specifically members), which are (part of) the scanning community itself.

In many communities, scanner activity is complicated, and quite busy, partly thanks to the use of dedicated and interoperational trunking systems, some analogue, mostly digital, and some even with encryption.

The point of this particular thread centers around the possibility of an SDS250, due to the advent of the SDS150. As the 150 is the logical upgrade to the 100, the 250 would be similarly so to the 200. We don't know when it'll happen, only that it makes sense to happen. This is up to Uniden, as it's their product, and they don't normally announce unless they're ready to introduce the new model.

Further model speculation is simply imagination running wild and that's okay. This particular forum is the "Uniden Tavern", and that's just fine, here.

And please, complaining about database based scanners is so 20th Century, get over it. You can still search for unlisted frequencies on them by frequency range scanning or, as with newer models, by waterfall. That's one of the things the waterfall function is actually useful for!

This is the 21st Century, deal with it.
 

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Is the SDS150 worth the high cost? Been looking to upgrade from my last purchase of the TRX-1. Haven't had a Uniden in years. The features look awesome. Is the antenna any better than past ones?
Yes. (And part of that cost is tariffs, FWIW.) You're getting a lot more bang for the buck, compared to others, and especially scanners of old, if you adjust cost per inflation.
 

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Is the SDS150 worth the high cost? Been looking to upgrade from my last purchase of the TRX-1. Haven't had a Uniden in years. The features look awesome. Is the antenna any better than past ones?
Best scanner by far. Knocks the snot out of my SDS200 I sold awhile back. I was hesitant at 1st but glad I jumped. You will not be disappointed.
 

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For me, HDMI output to put the scanner screen on a TV would be great, as would a option to plug in a keyboard ;)
After all, we have great products like ProScan. I use an external display with USB-C Thunderbolt because HDMI is incredibly disruptive. In Europe, the use of FM and DAD+ radio bandstops and Tetra and Tetrapol broadband networks is also required, without which the Uniden is a dull device, unable to pick up weaker signals.
 

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Is the SDS150 worth the high cost? Been looking to upgrade from my last purchase of the TRX-1. Haven't had a Uniden in years. The features look awesome. Is the antenna any better than past ones?
Main reasons I bought was the battery system and the included drop in charger (I also ordered an additional battery).

Potential for bluetooth connectivity with regular BT headsets.

Sold my previous SDS100 to get this.
 

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The SDS150 has better than a removeable head it has Bluetooth to Apple or Android with control and audio.
I think he's referring to the other reason for a removable head: Security/theft protection. A reason why many aftermarket car radios had removable heads.
 

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Uniden used to make remote heads. It probably didn't sell very well. There were even frames for placing a Uniden vehicle scanner instead of a car radio (1DIN), but an SDS200 is so huge that it can't be placed in a car. It's against the regulations to put it on the dashboard and the sun isn't good for it either. And there are even states in the USA where the scanner is banned in a vehicle. Maybe that's the reason why you have to have a remote head cleverly hidden, or have it on a magnet so that it can be quickly hidden from law enforcement. It's funny when a car radio is a common feature of a vehicle. If the SDS200 was a good receiver, I would probably also want a remote head for the vehicle because of its huge size. But the BCT15X works much better on analog, or the BCD9996P2. I feel that the newer the scanner, the worse the receiver. BT and GPS like the SDS150 for a huge increase in price is not a win when Uniden hasn't mastered SDR technology and the receiver doesn't listen very well. I firmly believe that reason will prevail over the vision of profit from business tricks and the SDS250 will be the receiver that will be listened to. And there will also be a version of the SDS250E, it will have USB-C and LAN on the back of the box. Until then, I will stick with the UBCD3600XLT and BCD536HP, which for incomprehensible reasons are not imported to Europe, nor did Uniden make a European version. Now there is no replacement for the UBCD3600XLT, which for incomprehensible reasons has also ceased production and is also not available on the European market. I would rather not even comment on the existence of the (U)BCD160 and (U)BCD260.
 

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...I highly doubt that Uniden will develop an open source device that will allow the user to use alternative software, settings according to their ideas and options, which are defined by the telecommunications office of the country in which the device will be in operation....
Sorry to pop your bubble, but it has already been done.
("Telecommunications office"?) 🤔 😆
 

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("Telecommunications office"?) 🤔 😆
The management of the frequency spectrum in the European Union countries is ensured by national regulatory authorities (NRAs), which often cooperate within European structures such as CEPT (Conference of European Postal and Telecommunications Administrations) and BEREC (Body of European Regulators for Electronic Communications). Spectrum harmonisation across the EU is coordinated by the European Commission.

National authorities (NRAs):
Czech Telecommunications Office (ČTÚ) in the Czech Republic
Bundesnetzagentur (BNetzA) in Germany
Arcep in France
AGCOM in Italy..................
Role of the authorities: They issue general authorisations, allocate radio frequencies, manage spectrum usage fees and supervise its use.

European cooperation:
CEPT/ECO: The European Communications Authority manages the EFIS (European Frequency Information System), which contains national information on spectrum usage.

BEREC: The Board of Regulators, composed of representatives of the national authorities, coordinates regulation.

Legislative framework: The activity is governed by the rules of the ITU (International Telecommunication Union) and the regulations of the European Commission.

European Electronic Communications Code (EECC): Directive (EU) 2018/1972 sets out the basic rules for the telecommunications market, regulates access to networks and the assignment of radio frequencies.
 
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