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There's still an issue with this. Just updated the master database HPDB, and it's not showing all the trunked systems in a county.
The example I give is the Bellagio in Las Vegas. It's not there under US>Nevada>Clark>County Systems. Most of the trunks are but there are a few missing. Using Ver 2.02 (build 01).
 

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The example I give is the Bellagio in Las Vegas. It's not there under US>Nevada>Clark>County Systems. Most of the trunks are but there are a few missing. Using Ver 2.02 (build 01).

I don't think that system is setup correctly in the database. None of the frequencies for the site have LCN's (which is probably why it isn't downloading) and a lot of talk groups are tagged as Analog.
 

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I don't think that system is setup correctly in the database. None of the frequencies for the site have LCN's (which is probably why it isn't downloading) and a lot of talk groups are tagged as Analog.
Classic example of why old, defunct systems need to be set to deprecated status, and a whole new system created for whatever has replaced it. This one was clearly changed from an analog type system to DMR, which is the only reason some of the talkgroups still show up as analog. Oh well, too late now.
 

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This one was clearly changed from an analog type system to DMR, which is the only reason some of the talkgroups still show up as analog.

That could be another valid reason for why this system isn't downloading properly.
 

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There's still an issue with this. Just updated the master database HPDB, and it's not showing all the trunked systems in a county.
The example I give is the Bellagio in Las Vegas. It's not there under US>Nevada>Clark>County Systems. Most of the trunks are but there are a few missing. Using Ver 2.02 (build 01).

If all LCN's=0; Then you'll never see it in uniden DB (regardless of the presence of TG's). Was it there before the most recent update :unsure: unlikely.. Somebody needs to get some legit LCN numbers.
 

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If all LCN's=0; Then you'll never see it in uniden DB (regardless of the presence of TG's). Was it there before the most recent update :unsure: unlikely.. Somebody needs to get some legit LCN numbers.
The same holds true for trunked systems that have all the LCN's populated but has NO Talkgroups, the system will not be available in the weekly Sentinel DB updates.
 

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Thank You.
Guess I need to program these things manually.
FYI,
Dunno If you're referring to the system used above as an example or another, but beware it won't work without actual/correct LCN (CH ID) numbers programed into the radio [a 0 will get zero results in a Uniden, It's why they are not imported into the Uniden DB]

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You'd need to use the LCN finder to get real values, Or program the frequencies using conventional/non-trunked methods to hear anything without LCN's assigned.
 

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I just received my SDS200 and I am having connections issues with the Uniden server updating. Sentinel version is 2.02 rev 01. Appears that there are no solutions? Is there another software that might have better results?
 

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I just received my SDS200 and I am having connections issues with the Uniden server updating. Sentinel version is 2.02 rev 01. Appears that there are no solutions? Is there another software that might have better results?

What is the EXACT error message you are getting when trying to update the database?

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Also what internet service do you use? HughesNet will not work.
 

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What is the EXACT error message you are getting when trying to update the database?

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Its timing out, starts the download and sits there for a period of time. The error box pops up saying destination site is taking too long. Yesterday it timed out updating firmware, today tried again , I think I got the firmware updated, time out on downloading database . I am receiving transmissions from different agencies.
 

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Its timing out, starts the download and sits there for a period of time. The error box pops up saying destination site is taking too long. Yesterday it timed out updating firmware, today tried again , I think I got the firmware updated, time out on downloading database . I am receiving transmissions from different agencies.

Are you using Hughesnet for your ISP?
 

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Grande is my ISP

If your error message is saying "Updating HP failed. Operation is canceled. The operation has timed out.", that's an indication of too much latency in the FTP transfers from your provider. Nothing to do with bandwith.

Haven't heard of that ISP or any reports on problems yet.

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If your error message is saying "Updating HP failed. Operation is canceled. The operation has timed out.", that's an indication of too much latency in the FTP transfers from your provider. Nothing to do with bandwith.

Haven't heard of that ISP or any reports on problems yet.

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Thanks for the info. I'll keep trying
 

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Based on your problem description, I would do the following to see if it is a problem with the ftp protocol in general or with the Uniden site specifically. Other companies have publicly accessible ftp sites, for example ftp.adobe.com.

Try clicking on this link and then click on one of the files to see if it downloads without the timeout error:

ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/win/AcrobatDC/2000920074/
 
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