BM82557
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Maybe they bumped the CC up to a 460 MHz from a 450 MHz in preparation for a new site at Shepherdstown which is going to use quite a few 450 MHz freqs --
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Maybe they bumped the CC up to a 460 MHz from a 450 MHz in preparation for a new site at Shepherdstown which is going to use quite a few 450 MHz freqs --
What were the two control channels for 1.23 before things got changed around in the DB today? Now it shows four
Mike
Keep in mind the CC can change at any time without warning for an equipment failure, interference on the CC RX, or just because a tech felt like it.
Also, seems we have some duplicate TGs in the DB as they were added in twice to indicate patches to other agencies. This is wiki data as the talkgroup number does not change simply because an outside resource is patched into it.
Another news story on the new tower along Route 35: New radio tower project keeping counties safe
BM82557
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3 additional E TGs used by USMS (at least on site 1.7) --
; NOT IN DB (TDMA)
P25, BEE00.170, 8041, 82112, 50, Normal, 5732, 2025/03/17 9:27, "", "USMS WVND P 11", 12D57C59
P25, BEE00.170, 8041, 82136, 50, Normal, 645, 2025/04/03 15:23, "", "USMS P S21196", 4801BABD
P25, BEE00.170, 8041, 82161, 50, Normal, 12576, 2025/03/26 13:35, "", "USMS WVND M 16", 28BBA576
; NOT IN DB (TDMA)
P25, BEE00.170, 8043, 82104, 50, Normal, 26, 2024/10/08 11:15, "", "USMS WVND P 10", 1940B315
; NOT IN DB (TDMA)
P25, BEE00.170, 8045, 82141, 50, Normal, 7, 2025/02/13 16:45, "", "USMS P S21445", B91362AB
P25, BEE00.170, 8045, 82144, 50, Normal, 26, 2025/02/13 16:45, ""
; NOT IN DB (TDMA)
P25, BEE00.170, 8041, 82112, 50, Normal, 5732, 2025/03/17 9:27, "", "USMS WVND P 11", 12D57C59
P25, BEE00.170, 8041, 82136, 50, Normal, 645, 2025/04/03 15:23, "", "USMS P S21196", 4801BABD
P25, BEE00.170, 8041, 82161, 50, Normal, 12576, 2025/03/26 13:35, "", "USMS WVND M 16", 28BBA576
; NOT IN DB (TDMA)
P25, BEE00.170, 8043, 82104, 50, Normal, 26, 2024/10/08 11:15, "", "USMS WVND P 10", 1940B315
; NOT IN DB (TDMA)
P25, BEE00.170, 8045, 82141, 50, Normal, 7, 2025/02/13 16:45, "", "USMS P S21445", B91362AB
P25, BEE00.170, 8045, 82144, 50, Normal, 26, 2025/02/13 16:45, ""
Heard West Hardy Ambo 21-4 arriving at Hampshire Memorial Hospital (HMH) today on TG 1434 on the Romney tower (1.1A / 1.026)...
The TG is not currently in the database. I'm doubtful that the TG is associated exclusively with Co. 21, and there's already a dedicated HMH comms TG. My best guess is that it's Hardy Co. Fire TAC 5. The Fire TAC 5 channels of Mineral and Hampshire Counties are XX34, and I believe the same person set-up the channel plans for all three (and possibly more) counties. More monitoring is required before I would submit to the DB, unless someone with insider knowledge knows the answer.
The TG is not currently in the database. I'm doubtful that the TG is associated exclusively with Co. 21, and there's already a dedicated HMH comms TG. My best guess is that it's Hardy Co. Fire TAC 5. The Fire TAC 5 channels of Mineral and Hampshire Counties are XX34, and I believe the same person set-up the channel plans for all three (and possibly more) counties. More monitoring is required before I would submit to the DB, unless someone with insider knowledge knows the answer.
BM82557
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SIRN would like to have more coverage in that area (Northern Panhandle) as well, but currently, there are no plans for that to occur. Go figure.
djkmeissner
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is SIRN expansion in the Northern Panhandle not happening due to the lack of available frequencies in the 450 band with a lot of them assigned to the Pittsburgh region?
No, I'm sure that is not the case. The case is that the only place in the NPH that "needs" SIRN sites is Hancock Co -- but SIRN cannot justify popping up sites in Hancock Co (they already have two) when Hancock Co public safety agencies aren't going to come aboard. As you are discussing in the other thread you commented on, Hancock is basically working on options of their own that do not involve SIRN.
djkmeissner
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well a volunteer firefighter had told me that the VFDs and the VFD association in the county could possibly move to SIRN since they can't afford new radios for 700 mhz (county said agenices will be on their own for radios) but who knows if that will actually happen.
Also, had a different source tell me the county wants to tie the 700 mhz into SIRN but from what I have seen that doesn't appear possible (since all other sites are UHF and not 700 mhz trunk) but that source I am not sure is very realiable.
It might be true that VFDs would rather move to SIRN. I don't know.
Tying a 700 mhz system into SIRN is not an issue. Bands do not make a difference. But only the radios in Hancock would be on 700 mhz, so the radios from the rest of the state could never roam into Hancock and get in the 700 mhz, or vice versa. Of course, there are two sites in Hancock (if you count Weirton as Hancock, and I do) on VHF, so those would cover roamers "enough".
I really don't know what to think. I've heard a dozen scenarios over the past few years, and none of them have come to fruition.
M
BM82557
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This showed up on the Berkeley County Martinsburg site 1.7 at 07:44 - 07:45 local this morning --
Not sure what was going on.
Not sure what was going on.
BM82557
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Sites 1.50 {Paw Paw Morgan County} and 1.52 {Fort Ashby Mineral County} dropped from site 1.7 {Berkeley County} at 14:39 local, perhaps because of the flooding currently occurring in those areas.
I haven't paid attention to the past few SIRN minutes documents. Has there been any written word about Cabell Co possibly moving to simulcast cell?
WSIK813 (CABELL, COUNTY OF)
Locations:
Barboursville (Tower Rd)
Milton (Bakers Ridge) - current site 2.12
Culloden
Salt Rock (Porters Knob) - current site 2.15
Huntington (Rotary Park) - current site 2.16
453.125
453.35
453.500
Obviously if they are moving to a simulcast, it'll probably be a little time before it happens because they need to build it out, and obviously there would be more frequencies in the simulcast.
But there ya go -- It's a P25 license for Cabell Co and I'd bet they have future plans of running a simulcast there instead of 5 separate sites.
Mike
WSIK813 (CABELL, COUNTY OF)
Locations:
Barboursville (Tower Rd)
Milton (Bakers Ridge) - current site 2.12
Culloden
Salt Rock (Porters Knob) - current site 2.15
Huntington (Rotary Park) - current site 2.16
453.125
453.35
453.500
Obviously if they are moving to a simulcast, it'll probably be a little time before it happens because they need to build it out, and obviously there would be more frequencies in the simulcast.
But there ya go -- It's a P25 license for Cabell Co and I'd bet they have future plans of running a simulcast there instead of 5 separate sites.
Mike
Mike, the last rumor I heard was that they were going to their own P25 system. They were tired of the poor performance on SIRN in many parts of the county.
Wow, that sounds kind of extreme, compared to working with SIRN to add more towers if needed. If that rumor turns out to be true, it should be interesting for the folks down there down the road.
Thanks for the info!
Mike
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