SNACC P25

[techues]

Thanks Bryan. Only problem is that I go to Idaho every summer in April for 6 months so I would expect the new system to up and all information ready by late October of the year. The system I run up there work just fine. Congrats on your move to the Vegas area.I did change the service types and will see later this evening if that helped.

 

[techues]

Thanks to help from 4 members of this forum I am now scanning my chosen channels. A little from each of you helped me to get it done.
Thanks Again,

Pat

 

[techues]

Here we go again. Entered system with QK entered site with QK entered departments with QK. Wrote to scanner with favorite list to use, entered law dispatch and now...."Scan Mode: nothing to scan.
?????? My favorites list shows up on booting scanner.
I never dreamed I was this stupid even though I have been called that many times in my 73 years.

 

[br0adband]

I wouldn't say it's anything "stupid" that you might have done, perhaps someone with more knowledge and experience using those particular Uniden models will be able to help. My last physical scanner was my trusty BC246T many many years ago and while I know it's programmed in essentially the same manner I'm sure there's just enough aspects that happen to be different so as to cause havoc if done incorrectly on the newer models.

Ain't technology great?

 

[737mech]

Ok did you open sentinel create file and then sent it to scanner? Or did you read scanner first then edit favorites lists? When sending di sentinel prompt differences between scanner and pc? I know it's different but these details are important with sentinel. Here's the help video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNmIiSuAHvE

 

[techues]

I'm right on the edge. At times I will receive Henderson PD but it clips the voice a couple of times and then goes quiet. Interesting journey. Good thing I'm retired and can spend way too many hours trying to get this thing to work. Does Uniden call it's scanner easy to program? LMAO.........not really!

 

[737mech]

Where in Henderson are you? Send me a private message. Maybe I can help?

 

[techues]

Finally got it, Thanks

 

[mattguzinski]

Is the DB correct on frequencies and sites?

 

[techues]

Not yet as I can see it for the Henderson Police Dept. I get Las Vegas Metro and some others but not Henderson except Fire.

 

[br0adband]

Well you shouldn't be getting LVMPD (Las Vegas Metro PD) on the SNACC system (analog or digital) since they're in the 700 MHz range nowadays using their own P25 Phase II system, I think you meant North Las Vegas PD (NLVPD) but we get it.

From what I can tell none of the fire departments have moved to SNACC P25 yet but I'm sure that'll happen soon enough, just the PD traffic has moved over at the moment along with some other services. But at the moment I do see traffic on SNACC P25 for Henderson and NLV PD quite frequently on the 853.900 MHz CC as noted previously.

I haven't had much time to do all the talkgroup labeling on the P25 side (my SNACC analog groups list is way more filled out obviously) but at the moment this is what I was just noticing:



As noted in the shot, Unitrunker says it's Site 002-033 on 853.900 MHz so, there's traffic happening definitely. I'm sure once everything gets more consistent and settled in there'll be some solid updates for information to be added to the RR database but at the moment a lot of it is in such a state of flux it might change often.

 

[iamretirednev]

436

john here live in southern highlands area near the M resort, I had henderson pd finally working on my 436 and then with switch your posting about it I do not get them any more, i did a update sat or sunday and still have henderson on my list as a favorite under snacc under dept as henderson pd and under channels everything from courts ttacs marshal west all channels including main dispatch as TGID:E13h, just no audio?

 

[SCPD]

Henderson help??

I have been trying to get this working myself as well. I know they switched to digital and I purchased a BCD536HP. I had henderson working off of the default database that was included on the 536HP out of the box. But while programming and trying to figure out sentinel I upgraded the master DB which caused henderson to stop functioning all together. I have tried many things programmed many many times and still nothing. Can someone assist me with some info on this?

 

[br0adband]

Well there are 3 control channels for the P25 system now (not sure how that works out but I'd assume that means at least 3 sites):

853.0750
853.9000
859.9375

For me in the downtown area I get the best signal from 853.9000, but I can (with some antenna adjustment) pull in the 859.9375 one as well and that one has some slightly different agencies on the SNACC system including the LV Marshalls (which I don't receive on the 853.9000 frequency/site). I just noticed Henderson PD on it trying to register and it was denied so I'm guessing that means all the HPD traffic is being routed to the 853.9000 site. I saw a join just now for an NLVPD unit (not a denial), and I see LV Detention Center Ops as well (which is also on the 853.9000).

I have no signal at 853.0750 at all, not with any adjustments to my current antenna setup or with the RF gain but it's listed as one of the control channels from the site info in Unitrunker, but the 853.9000 and 859.9375 frequencies are both showing activity as expected.

Not sure what that info can do for anyone but I'm guessing because the Sentinel database is pulling from the RR database and that stuff is now somewhat inaccurate, you might have to do some manual adjustments or even program a system or site manually to get it working properly, maybe?

 

[SCPD]

This may be a dumb question. Please forgive if it is.. I am not 100% used to the Home Patrol platform, I started getting into this on a RadioShack Pro-2051 and then the Uniden BCT15X and mostly relied on RR import via arc software and FreeSCAN to program what was downloaded from the RR db.

Is it safe to say that I should be able to enter just the CC's into a new site and use that site only? I would think that other frequencies are there for a reason as well (hence why I think it may be a dumb question).

I have tried to input some of the frequencies from this post onto its on site and while NLV PD is working just fine.. Henderson still has nothing showing up at all.

 

[techues]

I ran into a police Seargent at lunch today and asked him how the radio system up grade is working out. His response was they are having issues especially with audio. I'm sure when I get back from my summer 6 months "gig" in Idaho it will all be worked out.
I've spent too way too much time attempting to be able to listen to the local PD. I've decided I can survive without it rather than drive myself nuts trying. Hobbies should be enjoyable not stressful and frustrating.

 

[br0adband]

I can't imagine that it would hurt to try, certainly. Uniden scanners aren't that difficult once you come to appreciate how they operate but since I haven't owned one for a long long time now since I had a BC246T I wouldn't think they have changed all that much. If you create a new system and just use the CC Only capability and use that 853.9000 frequency for the CC it should get you going - you may not see all the TGIDs labeled since they'd need to be added manually (maybe?) - I was thinking that altering something in Sentinel before uploading it to the scanner would cover that but perhaps that's not how Sentinel works but again my lack of having a real actual physical scanner nowadays precludes me from such experience.

The Home Patrol is something I have zero experience with so that makes it even more difficult to offer assistance so hopefully someone else that owns one and is more familiar with it might be able to help with this situation.

I saw some activity from HPD on both the 853.9000 and 859.9375 frequencies/sites earlier - I wasn't actually monitoring for audio, however (didn't have DSD+ running), and I just checked again with Unitrunker and I still see activity. As soon as I fired up Unitrunker and enabled the Signal receiver wham (on 853.9000), I picked up several calls on HPD Main Dispatch (TGID 3603) and HPD Information (3609), now I'm seeing some hospital traffic as well which I've never seen on the P25 system, specifically UMC Trauma (2755) which until today I've only seen on the analog SNACC system. Now seeing NLVPD South Dispatch (2293) as well.

Switching to 859.9375 I see a lot more activity on the NLVPD South Dispatch as well as HPD Main Dispatch activity as well - I'm sure there's a lot of other stuff as well but as I mentioned earlier I just don't have everything properly labeled at the moment.

One thing I don't see on either of the sites: any Fire Department/EMS activity whatsoever, from Clark County, Henderson, North Las Vegas, or Boulder City so like I mentioned earlier they could have wanted to get the PD traffic moved over and solid before they start in on moving those aspects over. Not one call or attempt at a radio joining the system so far on any of the fire related TGIDs.

It'll work itself over time I'm sure, but it does seem odd if you can get NLVPD traffic that the HPD traffic isn't happening either, I'm going to leave it to someone more knowledgeable about those scanners to figure out.

 

[737mech]

With Sentinel Add a site to your SNACC Favorites like I posted above CC ONLY "Site not Department"
Remember the TGID formats for the new p25 SNACC are all four digits as shown in the sentinel db.
Don't use the old analog TGID's
Do use the old cc's from the old SNACC.
Remember to edit the band plan on those sites.
Should be something like this picture.
Remember to activate the service types you want to listen to.
This works great for me for now on my BCD536hp.
PSR-500 also great just use the cc's in the freqs list and download the four digit TGID's into a new TSYS.

 

[737mech]

Here's what I have for the GRE and RS scanners for the bandplan on the SNACC P25
Remember you have two seperate systems. This new one is Type P25 Auto. Not a motorola type II.
The scanners need to know for it to work right.

 

[737mech]

Automated Dispatcher

Anyone hear the automated dispatcher yet? I've heard these types in Dallas,Texas and sometimes even on the Nellis AFB P25 system.