South Florida Database Outdated! WHY?

[SCPD]

This message goes to any Scanner or Amateur Operator or DB Moderators!

I have been trying to Update my Scanners and Radios. Unfortunately, the Database and Miami Dade and Broward Counties have not been updated in quite some time.

If someone that has extensive knowledge in this field Please submit info so Newbies like myself can have a source and make scanning Enjoyable!

Thank You for your time!

 

[W8RMH]

Database entries are submitted by members like you. If you have knowledge of any errors please click on "Submit Info" and make those corrections.

 

[SCPD]

Database entries are submitted by members like you. If you have knowledge of any errors please click on "Submit Info" and make those corrections.

Totally understand you and makes sense....But when I keep on hearing that "Members" have submitted information and does not get updated. It makes me wonder Why the information does not get processed.

If there is some type of Political Non Sense going on between RR DB Moderators for South Florida and those members, it needs to stop. Maybe its time for someone else to step up to the plate and take over the Reigns for the Benefit of the Members and Visitors to this site.

Just my 2 cents!

 

[wise871]

FYI, as of last night there are no open submissions sitting in the que for the state. This means no one has submitted any new information. As far as political nonsense, this is the first I heard of a problem with Florida members and database admins. Don't call out the admins because there is a lack of updates for the state. The Florida admins are pretty good about working updates right always. In some other parts of the country there may be longer delays. Some states have more admins assigned than others. As far as you hearing members complain about updates not happening fast enough, please provide me a link were a Florida member is not happy with the update so we can fix the problem.


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[SCPD]

I'm calling out everyone that maybe involved in this process. I have numerous emails from "Members" that have allegedly submitted information to DB for Broward and Miami Dade Counties, that for some reason does not get processed.

So the problem is either one of the following :

1. RR DB Moderators for South Florida are delaying or not updating for whatever reason

Or

2. These "Members" that are complaining about submitting updates to RR are living in a fantasy world.

I hope it's not #2, as I look to these people as my elmers in this hobby and respect their "knowledge" given to me.

Either way, soon enough we'll find out what the issue is. If there is no issue with RR DB Moderators for South Florida, than I would Apologize to them, as we are receiving misinformation.

 

[wise871]

Sir
I'm trying to figure out were your going with this subject. How is it, you as a new member March 2015 with 39 only post, none have mentioned database issues to date have become the spokesperson for South Florida and all these members are emailing you about the issues? If you have emails or links then provide them to one of the Florida admins. Your above post does not seem to support a problem if your requesting users to submit you information that you clam you already have. You also apologize for misinformation ahead of time in your topic. As of this morning there is only one ticket in the Florida que for Brevard County Public Services. If the problem is as bad as you clam have you even taken the time to email or PM one of the admins?? I figured you would have seeing everyone is emailing you on the matter and your calling for change. What your doing is calling out the admins when you haven't even tried to contact any of them.

 

[fxdscon]

I'm calling out everyone that maybe involved in this process. I have numerous emails from "Members" that have allegedly submitted information to DB for Broward and Miami Dade Counties, that for some reason does not get processed.

So the problem is either one of the following :

1. RR DB Moderators for South Florida are delaying or not updating for whatever reason

Or

2. These "Members" that are complaining about submitting updates to RR are living in a fantasy world.

I hope it's not #2, as I look to these people as my elmers in this hobby and respect their "knowledge" given to me.

Either way, soon enough we'll find out what the issue is. If there is no issue with RR DB Moderators for South Florida, than I would Apologize to them, as we are receiving misinformation.

That's quite an attitude coming from a relatively new member to this site, especially when it's aimed at folks that VOLUNTEER their time, efforts, and equipment to verify, maintain, and update the RR database.... and provide the data to you at NO CHARGE!

There are specific procedures for submissions to the database as outlined here:

RR Database Submission Guidelines - The RadioReference Wiki

And only one place to enter those submissions:

Submit Data to RadioReference

Since you are "Calling Out" everyone involved in the process, maybe you should be verifying that the "members" you speak of are submitting the data properly..... that IS part of the process.

If you have knowledge of changes that need to be made to the database, why aren't you submitting those changes instead of making baseless accusations against others?

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[JANFINE]

Radioreference Updates for South Florida

I am the source of much of the updates for Broward County and Miami-Dade Coounty, over the years.
I normally trickle my information to them. Most of the time after many corrections things get updated.
I have submitted 100% of the information for Miami-Dade PD P25. I have not submitted all the information that I have. Much of it is encrypted, so the scanner users can not hear it anyway. I had submitted 2xx and 3xx talkgroups. These are seperate talkgroups that contain Bolos and Patches. They were updated in the database. But when I made the newer 1xx talkgroup submissions I received an email telling me that patches would not be included in the database. These talkgroups are essential to the scanner listener. Some of the info going out on those are not on any other talkgroups. They are patches to outside agencies. So if those are not in your scanner you will miss some of the best calls. I have tried many times to submit them and to privately email the database administrators to explain why they should be included. The administrators have not returned my emails. So as long as these are not included in the database I will not be submitting any further submissions to Radioreference. Let's see what happens when people that do not have the resources and experience that I do try to figure everything out. There will undoubtedly be a lot of frustrated users from South Florida. They will be smart enough to know that there are things going on that they should be hearing but are not. This is the only way I know to end my frustration with this situation.

FYI, as of last night there are no open submissions sitting in the que for the state. This means no one has submitted any new information. As far as political nonsense, this is the first I heard of a problem with Florida members and database admins. Don't call out the admins because there is a lack of updates for the state. The Florida admins are pretty good about working updates right always. In some other parts of the country there may be longer delays. Some states have more admins assigned than others. As far as you hearing members complain about updates not happening fast enough, please provide me a link were a Florida member is not happy with the update so we can fix the problem.


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[SCPD]

This is just one example of what I'm talking about!

South Florida hobbyists and visitors to the area are missing out on a lot of great information that only a hobbyist can painstakingly capture.

Again, the point of this thread is for the Moderators and those that are able to capture these changes to work together and make a difference. That's all I'm asking. I don't think I'm asking too much.

Ps... For those that drink the "Kool Aid" and post unnecessary information that does not help the cause... Buzz Off!!!

 

[QDP2012]

...This is the only way I know to end my frustration with this situation.

Thank you for submitting info to the DB.

You might have tried the following procedure before, but...

If you are having a problem, or problems with a particular DB Admin or group of DB Admins, then you should contact a Super-Admin (one over a large region), and if no satisfaction comes from that, then contact Mr. Blanton, the site owner -- all of which can be done by email.


Hope this helps,

This is just one example of what I'm talking about!

South Florida hobbyists and visitors to the area are missing out on a lot of great information that only a hobbyist can painstakingly capture.

Again, the point of this thread is for the Moderators and those that are able to capture these changes to work together and make a difference. That's all I'm asking. I don't think I'm asking too much.

Ps... For those that drink the "Kool Aid" and post unnecessary information that does not help the cause... Buzz Off!!!

Please see the above comments, in my reply to JANFINE. You might get less frustration, and better results by using email to follow the chain-of-command upward, even if you have to contact Mr. Blanton. That way, you can privately include the details you are not including in this thread. Those details might help get done what you want done.

Hope this helps,

 

[fxdscon]

Ps... For those that drink the "Kool Aid" and post unnecessary information that does not help the cause... Buzz Off!!!

I'm curious, what exactly are you calling "unnecessary information".... the correct database submission procedures?

.

 

[SCPD]

Thank you for submitting info to the DB.



You might have tried this procedure before, but...

If you are having a problem, or problems with a particular DB Admin or group of DB Admins, then you should contact a Super-Admin (one over a large region), and if no satisfaction comes from that, then contact Mr. Blanton, the site owner -- all of which can be done by email.

Hope this helps,

It's safe to say that the Super Admins and Mr. Blanton, Site Owner are aware of these issues now.

 

[wise871]

JANFINE
Which admins have you tried emailing because I keep all my RR emails and PM's for records I don't have any from you concerning the patch issue. Not sure what you mean by the following: "But when I made the newer 1xx talkgroup submissions I received an email telling me that patches would not be included in the database." If it's a valid talkgroup ID than I don't see why it can't be added unless it was a higher up call. Some reason for unreturned emails would be invalid email address, or your address is stuck in someone's smart filter. As a Florida Admin this is the first time I'm hearing about this but then again I am just one of many. Sometimes finding the right person helps. Also JANFINE looking at your submission history everything has been worked that you have submitted to date.

 

[SCPD]

I'm curious, what exactly are you calling "unnecessary information".... the correct database submission procedures?

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Oh no, nothing in regards to the process of RR. I can't comment on a process I have not been directly involved with.

 

[wise871]

Janfine
I dug deeper and I see the submission you was referring to. I take it the description for all of them is Bolos & Patches? Are the law tac or talk.

In your submission all you have listed is the following. It would be nice to know if these were Dispatch, Tac or Talk. If I was doing it I would label it tac or talk. Except for this listing which is missing details, I don't show any of your other submissions rejected so I don't get the big uproar on your submissions not being added. It was probably rejected due to lack of information. The more info provided the better chances it will be added.

Talkgroups for Bolos & Patches

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[QDP2012]

It's safe to say that the Super Admins and Mr. Blanton, Site Owner are aware of these issues now.

It's also safe to say that the approach used here might get a less welcoming reception by management than using a proper professional attitude of following the chain-of-command, using proper supporting details, in a private email, instead of posting unsupported claims here -- which I'm guessing you chose not to support here because doing so would not protect the privacy of the person(s) who made the complaint(s) to you.

Another way of explaining is: you will probably get better results if you politely ring the doorbell and wait for an answer, than if you bang, kick, and scream at the door. The attitude of the person(s) who might answer the door likely will differ based on how you approach the door.

Hope this helps,

Oh no, nothing in regards to the process of RR. I can't comment on a process I have not been directly involved with.

You might disagree, but it would seem that your first post would qualify as "commenting on a process I have not been directly involved with."

It might have been better if you made the above statement to the one(s) complaining to you, and suggest(ed) that he/she/they contact upper-management to get the issue resolved.

Hope this helps,

 

[lindsay34654]

The Data Base is always up today, and the information comes in. If there is no information when do not blame RR. If one does not like what they see, go to another source, Stop being the POSTER BOY for everyone that has a complaint or the ones that are using you to make you the fool. You think you can do any better START YOUR OWN SYSTEM. And stop complaining on here, These people do a great job with what they have to work with, This system works by handed down information. Instead of complaining you submit what YOU know is fact. Not a bunch of HEAR SAY.

 

[JANFINE]

All Law Enforcement Bolos & Patches

Yes they are all Police Bolos & Patches.
The administrator that I emailed I have emailed many times in the past.
He and Lindsay are members of my SEFLORIDA group.
Give you a hint. His name is like mine except for the frist letter.

Jan

Janfine
I dug deeper and I see the submission you was referring to. I take it the description for all of them is Bolos & Patches? Are the law tac or talk.

In your submission all you have listed is the following. It would be nice to know if these were Dispatch, Tac or Talk. If I was doing it I would label it tac or talk. Except for this listing which is missing details, I don't show any of your other submissions rejected so I don't get the big uproar on your submissions not being added. It was probably rejected due to lack of information. The more info provided the better chances it will be added.

Talkgroups for Bolos & Patches

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162
163
164
165
166
167
168
169
170

 

[wise871]

This is just one example of what I'm talking about!

South Florida hobbyists and visitors to the area are missing out on a lot of great information that only a hobbyist can painstakingly capture.

Again, the point of this thread is for the Moderators and those that are able to capture these changes to work together and make a difference. That's all I'm asking. I don't think I'm asking too much.

Ps... For those that drink the "Kool Aid" and post unnecessary information that does not help the cause... Buzz Off!!!

The example you gave was based on a submission rejection due to lack of information or misunderstanding. You have yet to provide any further details for you argument. I also don't see you making any submissions for missing items.

 

[tampabaynews]

I think you have no right to complain about a free crowd-source service if you offer no contribution whatsoever.