State of Delaware P25 Phase 2 (2025) Transition and observations

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I know the transmission of patient information over these channels do not violate HIPPA or Privacy Laws since personal information is not given out. At one time I read a post a while back on a different thread a few years back they were considering encrypting the hospital channels but it would be an issue for the out of state ambulances coming in. Down in Sussex County, you get a lot of Caroline and Dorchester county Ambulances bringing in patients to our hospitals down here since they are closer than some of the in-state hospitals. Coming from NJ and did an Volunteer EMS stint for a while 15-20 years ago in two different parts of the state, we never have contacted a hospital beforehand prior to our arrival with a report. We just showed up and told the triage nurse what's going on and they will direct us where to bring the patient. Only on a few occasions where its was a bad trauma or a cardiac arrest call, the medics would call from their cell phones to notify. I didn't realize the hospital calling channels were a thing til I moved down here.
 

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I took a drive to some NCC sites to log what I cannot hear from home.

Wilmington- Still on their P1 system, no P2 CC running

Winterthur- P1 CC on 851.325, P2 CC on 852.500, A couple P2 parks affiliations on 852.125, Not showing as a peer to the simul system but it is reporting as site 16

Hockessin - P1 CC on 853.2125, P2 CC on 852.9375 (Simul) with expected simulcast activity.
But, Unitrunker on the P2 Simul system is reporting it as a peer, Site 17 with a CC of 853.0875. No data channel observed burning on on that frequency though.
It appears to be operating with the P1/P2 simulcast system(s) for now.
And the P1 Simul system is reporting it as a peer on 853.575 (No CC on that channel!)

We'll see what happens.
 

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I thought the fill in sites wouldn't carry over to the P25 and they would all be on the three simulcast sites. I'm guessing Wilmington will be Site 14 on the new system if that migrates over.
 

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I thought the fill in sites wouldn't carry over to the P25 and they would all be on the three simulcast sites. I'm guessing Wilmington will be Site 14 on the new system if that migrates over.
Wilmington Site is going to be interesting, Wilmington site is near Saint Francis Hospital and there is a full State New Castle site WQDN950 on Carvel State Office Building in Downtown Wilmington, Now when you look at Wilmington FCC license KNIA879 There is No P25 System Upgrade Yet, However they did Renew their License just recently 3/4/2025. So Who knows their plans are. Maybe Wilmington Going to be Last, to Convert.
 

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I took a drive to some NCC sites to log what I cannot hear from home.

Wilmington- Still on their P1 system, no P2 CC running

Winterthur- P1 CC on 851.325, P2 CC on 852.500, A couple P2 parks affiliations on 852.125, Not showing as a peer to the simul system but it is reporting as site 16

Hockessin - P1 CC on 853.2125, P2 CC on 852.9375 (Simul) with expected simulcast activity.
But, Unitrunker on the P2 Simul system is reporting it as a peer, Site 17 with a CC of 853.0875. No data channel observed burning on on that frequency though.
It appears to be operating with the P1/P2 simulcast system(s) for now.
And the P1 Simul system is reporting it as a peer on 853.575 (No CC on that channel!)

We'll see what happens.
P25 P1 or SmartZone digital on Wilmington, Hockessin and Winterthur?
 

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If anyone is listening Sussex County, you noticed that Rehoboth has two alarms and Rehoboth fire 2 is TG:1869 not Seaford EMS
 

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If anyone is listening Sussex County, you noticed that Rehoboth has two alarms and Rehoboth fire 2 is TG:1869 not Seaford EMS
I *should* be capturing this audio - I will try to verify. If others can verify now, please submit your discovery to the RRDB so the tg labeling can be updated.
 

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I was able to verify through recordings of tg 1869 that it is actually Rehoboth Fire 2 and not Seaford EMS. I'll submit the change.
 

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I took a drive to some NCC sites to log what I cannot hear from home.

Wilmington- Still on their P1 system, no P2 CC running

Winterthur- P1 CC on 851.325, P2 CC on 852.500, A couple P2 parks affiliations on 852.125, Not showing as a peer to the simul system but it is reporting as site 16

Hockessin - P1 CC on 853.2125, P2 CC on 852.9375 (Simul) with expected simulcast activity.
But, Unitrunker on the P2 Simul system is reporting it as a peer, Site 17 with a CC of 853.0875. No data channel observed burning on on that frequency though.
It appears to be operating with the P1/P2 simulcast system(s) for now.
And the P1 Simul system is reporting it as a peer on 853.575 (No CC on that channel!)

We'll see what happens.
Is it possible the Hockessin site is offline or in some maintenance mode for both systems? I'm about 2 miles from it and should be getting my doors blown off, but it's crickets on both. The P25 site (001-017 / 853.0875) shows a 'minimal' signal, populates in UT (for a few seconds), then drops out with no populated info. It does show a 'patch' between TGIDs 143/151 (but that might be carried over in UT from 001-011) The 'old' site (cc 853.750 / Site 7) has a good signal but in 4-5 hours has fielded no traffic in UT and as such has only populated the CC in UT.

For reference, I'm getting clear signals and UT data on the old Site 1 NCC Simul, Site 4, as well as Site 001-011 on the P25 System.
 

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It appeared to be rolled into the old system as a simulcast site a couple weeks ago, which may be why you getting a booming CC
 

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here they are side by side, monitoring from roughly mid-morning to now (today). Anything is possible, I suppose, but those two sites just don't seem to be playing well with others.
 

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Noting that there are a significant number of Denials on the Sussex SmartZone site, perhaps related to the switchover.
 

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When we say “switchover” does that mean just the FD, all Public Safety, or everything? DDOT in Sussex is still heavily represented on the SmartZone site.

Also it seems many of the Denials are DSP resources that have been Denied since June 7th.
 
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