State Patrol is Encrypted?

[superfreak]

And... radio traffic is subject to FOIA requests.

Only if there is a record (aka is it recorded?) can't produce anything that is not recorded.

 

[nessnet]

Only if there is a record (aka is it recorded?) can't produce anything that is not recorded.

ALL public safety radio traffic is recorded.
It's done at the PSAP.

 

[nessnet]

"... they keep demanding I sell a scanner or 2 to them..."
"... and demand scanners as well".

They do know they can just go to Amazon (etc.) and purchase one....??
Or.... are they that stupid?

 

[Wilrobnson]

however in like 2014, I had to use my scanner for other things as Leo claimed the gang problem in Grant County made them go encrypted, I called BS and still do.

100% true, but not 'gang' as much as certain special interest groups from south of the border tracking radio ID's for drug task force members in an attempt to set up an ambush. I am intimately familiar with 2 of the LEOs involved.

They nearly encrypted the trunking control channel as a result, but technical difficulties apparently stopped that.

 

[nessnet]

as for the state patrol, I never heard them in Grant, Kittitas, Chelan, Douglas, Adams, or Spokane counties

WSP definitely can be monitored.

WSP uses three(+) systems, depending on where...
700Mhz system:
WA State Patrol Trunking System, Various, Washington
JIWN:
Justice Integrated Wireless Network Trunking System, Various, Multi-State
Conventional:
WA State Patrol (Washington) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference

Spokane additionally patches WSP to SRECS:
Spokane Regional Emergency Communications System)

The counties you listed WSP districts (except Spokane) most likely are using conventional - maybe JIWN.
Note: some areas use more than 1 system (ex: Seattle area you can hear WSP on 700 and also conventional)

 

[Wilrobnson]

ALL public safety radio traffic is recorded.
It's done at the PSAP.

As someone who's been in more than a few PSAPs (a lot more) that is new and exciting information.

 

[Akuriko]

yes I heard district 7 on my 536 but on my conventional scanner i don't hear it, is it P25?

 

[Akuriko]

They do know they can just go to Amazon (etc.) and purchase one....??
Or.... are they that stupid?

They're stupid and they think $5 or $10 will cover a used scanner, lol and because i have a scanner or 9 they think i have to many too boot, lol

 

[nessnet]

yes I heard district 7 on my 536 but on my conventional scanner i don't hear it, is it P25?

Yes (P25 II)

 

[Akuriko]

Yes (P25 II)

Cool beans, now i know, lol

 

[Akuriko]

So let me get this straight Phase 2 P25 is what is needed to receive it?

 

[nessnet]

So let me get this straight Phase 2 P25 is what is needed to receive it?

That and remember, WSP conventional is down at 154 - 156Mhz, and JIWN is 165 - 171Mhz, so the antenna being used may be a factor.

Oh.... JIWN is also P25 II

 

[Akuriko]

well I do use these 2 antennas on my 536 and 15x that isn't the telescopic antenna its on a meatloaf pan, lol

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07X2LJ4HB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

 

[nessnet]

well I do use these 2 antennas on my 536 and 15x that isn't the telescopic antenna its on a meatloaf pan, lol

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07X2LJ4HB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

Just remember, a 1/4 wave at 156Mhz is ~18 inches.
Is a meatloaf pan big enough?

ground plane calculator - Google Search

If you want a real good dedicated VHF antenna:
Larsen 144-174 MHz NMO Base-Loaded 5/8 Wave Antenna

Amazon.com : ground plane kit

 

[Akuriko]

this is what works

 

[nessnet]

this is what works

Try a sheet pan or cookie sheet if you have one.....

 

[Akuriko]

lol, window edge is so small 5 inches wide only.

 

[wtp]

from the antenna web site...

Maximum Range

10 Feet

that could say it all

 

[Akuriko]

and that means what?

 

[wtp]

well it was a joke...
it would just mean that it receives for 10 feet.
i take it to really mean the wire is 10 feet long.