http://countyext.okstate.edu/washita/redflagalert.htm
With this wind, and the amount of fuel on the ground, only God can help us.....
Statewide burnban
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http://countyext.okstate.edu/washita/redflagalert.htm
With this wind, and the amount of fuel on the ground, only God can help us.....
tiawah466
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Now if we could only have a way for the fire departments to issue fines without law enforcement having to come out.
We have no problem calling an officer out. Its a $525 fine in Choctaw for illegal burning. And it can go up from there if your attitude is wrong...
Secret_Squirrel
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tiawah466 said:
Several departments who have CLEET certified Fire Marshals are able to take care of stuff like that.
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I cant remember does Burn Ban also include Charcoal, and Propane BBQs?
From the Oklahoma forestry service.
CAMPFIRES AND OUTDOOR COOKING
Outdoor campfires or bonfires are prohibited. LPG and natural gas grills and charcoal-fired cooking outside
in a grilling receptacle are permitted provided that the activity is conducted over a non-flammable surface
and at least five feet from flammable vegetation.
Coleman-type pressurized stoves are exempt. However, any fire resulting from grilling or the use of one of
these cookers or stoves is still an illegal fire.
CAMPFIRES AND OUTDOOR COOKING
Outdoor campfires or bonfires are prohibited. LPG and natural gas grills and charcoal-fired cooking outside
in a grilling receptacle are permitted provided that the activity is conducted over a non-flammable surface
and at least five feet from flammable vegetation.
Coleman-type pressurized stoves are exempt. However, any fire resulting from grilling or the use of one of
these cookers or stoves is still an illegal fire.
You can charcoal and /or grill on a non-flammable surface and 10 ft away from foilage......It is a shame that this wasn't instituted prior to thousands of acres being burned, structures damaged or consumed, and firefighters injured.
tiawah466
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Too bad that is usually only the larger city departments, or a department who happens to a reserve officer.Secret_Squirrel said:
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You know we were just having a discussion about that very topic recently. We're wondering if the SO cannot just deputize say 1 or 2 guys as "Fire Marshals" and make them reserves that are pretty much just responsible for the fire marshal duties of your fire district.....makes sense...especially for us that have no municipality to get commissioned from.
You know we were just having a discussion about that very topic recently. We're wondering if the SO cannot just deputize say 1 or 2 guys as "Fire Marshals" and make them reserves that are pretty much just responsible for the fire marshal duties of your fire district.....makes sense...especially for us that have no municipality to get commissioned from.
And that ignorant son of a female dog of a governor just lifted it with 2 pretty good sized grass fires going...go figure.
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What REALLY needs done is to make it illegal to smoke in a vehicle. That would have prevented about half of the grass fires I've seen. It would also make the roads a little safer, sense people would have more time to focus on driving, instead of looking for their lighter or cigs....
Now that probably won't set well with everyone, with so many people killing themselves slowly nowdays, but I really don't care...
Now that probably won't set well with everyone, with so many people killing themselves slowly nowdays, but I really don't care...
xxxsandman said:
If we did that, then what would be next? catalytic converters? Cell phones and radios? Actually we probably have enough laws, just need to enforce the ones we have equally.
I probably shouldn't have started responding on this. It just gets my BP elevated.....LOL
tiawah466
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cigs tossed out windows will very rarely start fires. I took very dry hay on a hot summer day and burned up almost a pack of smokes trying to set it on fire. Even took the air nozzle from my compressor and blew on a lit cigarette in the hay and nothing. Tried it with normal dry grass and nothing still. I am not saying that it can't happen, just that I could not make it happen. Alot of fires come from broken clear glass on sunny days, the magnifing glass effect. There just happens to be discarded cigarettes nearly everywhere along roadsides.xxxsandman said:
Hey Mythbusters!
Sounds like a great topic for "Mythbusters!"
tiawah466 said:
Sounds like a great topic for "Mythbusters!"
sentrymechanic said:
The ban was lifted for the northern part of the state that has moisture from the snow, NOT the part that had the fires.
Also, You might practice self-AED application. You might need it someday with a temper like that!
canders2 said:
So explain the yukon fire please....And you havent seen me lose it yet.
oklameatman
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sentrymechanic said:
Ummm...so...were the fires already burning before the ban was lifted? If yes, then that doesn't provide much support for the use of burn bans.
It also might be worth considering that the Governor receives all the inputs for his decision (and maybe the actual decision) from the Ag/Forestry staff. He is probably just the messenger.
Not that it means anything but yes they started the day he lifted the ban. As far as the Ag/Forestry staff making that kind of call, of all people they should know better. Especially taking the weather, amt of precipitation recieved, etc etc. The governor has the final authority over it regardless and it should not have been done.
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