Sticky Thread For Mid-Atlantic MilAir 2021

[Mark]

Was out and noticed CAP was gone and going over tape SLAM-01,02 took over CAP at around 11:40am local.
11:54 local hear NOBLE-1 flight dropping down into Langley.
1434 SLAM-2 on ZDC 363.00 going back to the CAP followed a bit later by SLAM-1
I guess tanker is not showing.seem to be working ZDC 363.000 boom is still 247.050

 

[Hbright]

01-0041 SAM874 ADW-Colombia SC-Somewhere in WV (maybe Clarksburg?)-ADW

I wonder if SAM874 along with SAM038 is a training mission. The flight paths are too odd to be flying someone important.

 

[Hbright]

Was out and noticed CAP was gone and going over tape SLAM-01,02 took over CAP at around 11:40am local.
11:54 local hear NOBLE-1 flight dropping down into Langley.
1434 SLAM-2 on ZDC 363.00 going back to the CAP followed a bit later by SLAM-1
I guess tanker is not showing.seem to be working ZDC 363.000 boom is still 247.050

The Mass guard guys take over for the Langley-based F-15s again? Was there an issue with the Fresno fighters?

 

[Mark]

The Mass guard guys take over for the Langley-based F-15s again? Was there an issue with the Fresno fighters?

I din't hear any issues.I just think their 6 hour shift was over and no more Fresno's available.

 

[RaleighGuy]

01-0041 SAM874 ADW-Colombia SC-Somewhere in WV (maybe Clarksburg?)-ADW

I wonder if SAM874 along with SAM038 is a training mission. The flight paths are too odd to be flying someone important.

If they do not have VIP aboard they are not supposed to be using the SAM designation, even for training.

 

[TerryPavlick]

The Mass guard guys take over for the Langley-based F-15s again? Was there an issue with the Fresno fighters?

Perhaps with two CAPS in play over the next few days - giving some rest to the Fresno guys.

 

[TerryPavlick]

If they do not have VIP aboard they are not supposed to be using the SAM designation, even for training.

and they were again using the XA flight designation as well. Probably a lot of folks wanting to be home for the holidays. Busy taxi service.

 

[Mark]

Hearing PUDGY-61 KC-46 inbound McGuire on 323.800 like it is their CP freq.
McGuire give them their own CP freq? Nope PUDGY-61 comes up on McGuire CP 237.150 with report.
Maybe they were chatting on 323.800 with someone else earlier.

 

[Hbright]

If they do not have VIP aboard they are not supposed to be using the SAM designation, even for training.

That's what I thought but in Dec 2018 a SAM flt Gulfstream (SAM003) flew to the Caribbean during the government shutdown. This prompted a pentagon reporter to query the USAF as to what it was doing there. According to the USAF, the acft was "performing a routine training mission with no DVs (VIPs) aboard the aircraft." So apparently the SAM designation can be used for training flights.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1076616900413661185

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1076228552780070913

 

[TerryPavlick]

Hearing PUDGY-61 KC-46 inbound on 323.800 like it is their CP freq.
McGuire give them their own CP freq?

Heard them call their CP but did not look at the frequency. Managed to get some pictures through the clouds as they flew close by.

Hearing them now on 237.150 with inbound report.....maybe they grabbed the mic and did not check the frequency the first time.

Probably monitoring 323.800 for EAM.

 

[Mark]

That is one example in 2018 SAM flight to Carib but I wouldn't believe that news media training excuse for anything
A lot of 3-4 star Brass scattered around the US for Holiday so SAM's probably rounding up the Pentagon Cats to get back in town.

Speaking of St Maarten, a 2021 year in review a video of C-17 wet departure recreating hurricane winds for tourists bracing themselves
U.S AIR FORCE C-17 SINT MAARTEN EXTREME MIND BLOWING TAKEOFF - YouTube

 

[Hbright]

Was out and noticed CAP was gone and going over tape SLAM-01,02 took over CAP at around 11:40am local.
11:54 local hear NOBLE-1 flight dropping down into Langley.
1434 SLAM-2 on ZDC 363.00 going back to the CAP followed a bit later by SLAM-1
I guess tanker is not showing.seem to be working ZDC 363.000 boom is still 247.050

I listened to the BAF LiveATC archive. At 1107E you can hear the scramble order on one of the NG Ops freqs (listed as 123.050 and 309.000 on LiveATC).

"*Alarm going off in the background* Scramble, SLAM1, SLAM2, 2 F-15s, immediately heading to the Compton air space. Contact HUNTRESS 260.9, backup, 228.9 as soon as possible. Bearing 230, climb is 1608. I authenticate Bravo November."
SLAM1 responds: "SLAM1"

at 1113E, after getting takeoff clearance, SLAM1 is warned by HAWK ops. "SLAM1, this is HAWK Ops, just watch icing in the clouds up to about 15000 ft, otherwise have a safe flight."

 

[TerryPavlick]

That is one example in 2018 SAM flight to Carib but I wouldn't believe that training excuse for anything
A lot of 4 star Brass scattered around the US for Holiday so SAM's probably rounding up the Pentagon Cats to get back in town.

Would have to agree with Mark. No matter what party is in office - the military always manages to keep their same process. I doubt that airport is a training flight. Harrisburg , Scranton and Atlantic City yes - nice tropical island for training - doubtful.

 

[jaymatt1978]

1523 LOCAL SLAM 1 up on Woodstown UHF 363.0\

 

[RaleighGuy]

Wait, what, I thought if the government said it or it was on the internet/social media it must be true. @TerryPavlick @Mark

 

[TerryPavlick]

Wait, what, I thought if the government said it or it was on the internet/social media it must be true. @TerryPavlick @Mark

Let me tell you a story about a dog named Checkers. The more things change - the more they stay the same.

 

[TerryPavlick]

16:10 BIGFOOT notifies SLAM of a target at 900 feet. Turned out to be a news helicopter N606HD (Chopper 6) of TV channel 6 in Philadelphia.
Had they intercepted - at least it would have been filmed in HD !!

 

[TerryPavlick]

16:45 CAP terminated for the day - F15s headed back to Barnes direct at 23K and tanker TEFLN17 (63-8029) now tracking on ADS-B probably headed back to McGuire.

 

[Yocuz]

07:44 Hearing CAP activity with MUDDY41 & 42, DASH02, TEFLON20 (59-1460), and BIGFOOT.

 

[Mark]

slept late today but heard MUDDY-41,42 180th FW Ohio ANG after last tanking. F-16's are thrifty compared to F-15c's.
Topoff of 5k or so compared to 9-10k for F-15's Searching A/A nothing yet. They are giving fuel reports on Huntress 260.900