Sticky Thread For Mid-Atlantic MilAir 2021

[Tech792]

I visited the site today 10:00 local time, nothing was active, I didn't receive hits on close call or any ARTCC freqs for both ZDC and ZNY.

I am going to take a ride this afternoon to KACY which I believe is 127.7 CASINO ZDC and KMIV which is ZDC and ZNY, Cedar Lake and Woodstown.

The CAP broke up about 9 am so I'm figuring the "Big Foot/Huntress" link might not have been active when you were there at 10 am. But thank you for the effort. I think we're all curious now.

 

[mdmonitor]

1305- Some 94th FS F-22s (no calls noted) working ACM training out in W386 (350.05) & 358.85.

 

[TerryPavlick]

127.700 (ZDC Casino) is listed at the Sea Isle VOR. 133.125 (ZDC Sea Isle) should be at KACY, at the VOR. KMIV RCAG looks like it is actually about 4 miles NW of the airport, at 39 25 05.5N 78 08 05.6W. I'm curious what you hear, please let us know.

127.700/285.400 is remoted from the Sea Isle VORTAC. 133.125 (Sea Isle) is actually from Atlantic City. You should be able to hear 133.500/354.00 NY Oceanic from the Atlantic City area as well. When at Millville look at the spot with the red arrow on the map here. 125.450/134.325 usually remotes from here and 363.00 Washington ARTCC UHF. I visited this site last year - you may not need the antenna on your handheld !!
and you should see this at 26 Bogden Blvd

 

[TerryPavlick]

Here is the Sea Isle site (close up photograph courtesy a website on the internet).

can be seen from the cemetery......off Exit 11 of the GSP

 

[AirScan]

When at Millville look at the spot with the red arrow on the map here. 125.450/134.325 usually remotes from here and 363.00 Washington ARTCC UHF. I visited this site last year - you may not need the antenna on your handheld !!

Thanks for posting that, I didn't know about that site. The location provided by the FAA (and the RR database) for the Millville RCAG shows it at that other tower located about 4 miles to the NW. Not the first time the FAA has provided the wrong information about their RCAGs.

 

[mdmonitor]

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[mdmonitor]

1354- Wild flt (4 X F-16s DC ANG) are off ADW again (257.2). Wild 1 advises that one of his radios isn't working. On discrete (238.175) w/acft ops checks.

1405- Score 60 (KC-130 # 162310 AE03C4 VX-20) working DOV approach (132.425).

1407- Couple of DHS acft , #801 & #800 working on discrete (136.275). 801 is turning mission over to 800 but 800 has video equipment issue. 801 advises 800 that they will RTB and gas up plane while 800 tries to clear up problem. If 800 can't clear it up they should RTB and take over 801's acft.

 

[MUTNAV]

I think the reason bombers and ICBM site were in Midwest is that early on in the Cold War that kept them out of range of Russian ICBMs.

At the time NK & China weren't our major focus/problem.

Actually I'm pretty sure it was to get them closer to Russia. If you take a globe, (not a map), but a globe, and stretch a piece of string from Moscow and some of the other Key Russian areas to the U.S. , You'll find that the shortest distance is over the north pole (roughly), and the midwest is closest.

It's the same reason that the shortest way to Germany from NJ is past Maine, not due east.

Thanks
Joel

 

[TerryPavlick]

Thanks for posting that, I didn't know about that site. The location provided by the FAA (and the RR database) for the Millville RCAG shows it at that other tower located about 4 miles to the NW. Not the first time the FAA has provided the wrong information about their RCAGs.

From the New York Center data on RR ..... googles to the site I posted a picture of....


and amazingly....in digging around I found this contract to knock down the 4 towers and replace them with 3 towers....what can I say the internet would have made all of us older guys...Albert Einsteins - if we had this in high school.

SAM.gov

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[mdmonitor]

1425- Dutyl-45 (E-6B # 162783 AE040E VQ-4 Det) off PAX heading west.

 

[mdmonitor]

From the New York Center data on RR ..... googles to the site I posted a picture of....
View attachment 98568

and amazingly....in digging around I found this contract to knock down the 4 towers and replace them with 3 towers....what can I say the internet would have made all of us older guys...Albert Einsteins - if we had this in high school.

SAM.gov

beta.sam.gov

And we would have saved a fortune not having to buy those damn plastic coated crib notes

 

[mdmonitor]

1435- Eddie 61 off WRI heading back home. Working ZNY Harrisburg (133.475).

1440- Reach 235 (C-130J # 06-3171 AE29DB) trying to reach Brickyard CP (237.15) then uses 134.1.

 

[Reconrider]

training out in W386 (350.05) & 358.85.

What is the W386 - I'm assuming it corresponds to a map location but where is the map?
(I'm still learning so I'm going to ask dumb questions that seem easy to you guys )

 

[AirScan]

From the New York Center data on RR ..... googles to the site I posted a picture of....

I was using the Washington Center data on RR for Millville, which is different = N39.417222 W75.135



Which doesn't look like a typical RCAG. Odd looking installation around the base ?

 

[AirScan]

What is the W386 - I'm assuming it corresponds to a map location but where is the map?

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[TerryPavlick]

Thanks for posting that, I didn't know about that site. The location provided by the FAA (and the RR database) for the Millville RCAG shows it at that other tower located about 4 miles to the NW. Not the first time the FAA has provided the wrong information about their RCAGs.

Did more research - the New York Center has the location correct but Washington Center data is incorrect. There is a small tower at the Washington Center location in RR but not enough to support the actual requirement (as shown in the data I provided about the tower replacement). Probably just a typo from the Washington Center on the location.

 

[TerryPavlick]

I was using the Washington Center data on RR for Millville, which is different = N39.417222 W75.135

View attachment 98569

Which doesn't look like a typical RCAG. Odd looking installation around the base ?

Yeah might have to take a drive sometime......

 

[mdmonitor]

What is the W386 - I'm assuming it corresponds to a map location but where is the map?
(I'm still learning so I'm going to ask dumb questions that seem easy to you guys )

I see Airscan beat me to the punch

 

[TerryPavlick]

I see Airscan beat me to the punch

There are no dumb questions - we all (myself included learn something new every day).....just like the new tower replacement at Millville. Had someone not asked - we would not know the details of the RCAG location ..... we even know the model of antenna they use and that is is dual band !!

 

[mdmonitor]

1500- Wild 3 on discrete (238.175) and w/121st SOF (139.45) w/post mission & acft status report.

1504- Ascot 5807 (RAF C-130 ZZ867 99th Sqdn RAF Brize Norton UK) land at ADW. Departed from Belize.

1505- Energy 16 (B-350 N2316 Dep't of Energy ADW) land at ADW.