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Yeah might have to take a drive sometime......

Agree probably a typo in the Washington data then a coincidence it was near that other tower. On GE the access to it looks like it's through private property, in someone's back yard. Then I was thinking, man that guy has the best ham shack ever.
 
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What is the W386 - I'm assuming it corresponds to a map location but where is the map?
(I'm still learning so I'm going to ask dumb questions that seem easy to you guys )

In case you are interested here is a screenshot of aerial refueling areas/routes --

Screenshot - 2_8_2021 , 15_10_13.png

and Mid-Atlantic Warning Areas --

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The site appears to be either cellular or other business related antenna equipment - not FAA related.

Ah I think I see what it is now. Looks like the tower for the Rainbow NDB (Non Directional Beacon) on 363 kHz. Wow right out of the 1950's and still seems to be operating. I thought they had decommissioned all those big tower beacons years ago ? Helps explain the error, but still sloppy FAA.

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1405- ???-93 (call missed) working Bay Watch (270.8) & PAX Tower (123.7). Not sure who he is, but ADS-B showing CMV-22B # 169435 ( AE6B94) operating in the PAX area.

1630- Egyptian AF C-130 SU-BAL off the NJ coast heading for BWI.
 
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Ah I think I see what it is now. Looks like the tower for the Rainbow NDB (Non Directional Beacon) on 363 kHz. Wow right out of the 1950's and still seems to be operating. I thought they had decommissioned all those big tower beacons years ago ? Helps explain the error, but still sloppy FAA.

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That would make sense with the grounding structure for that frequency.
 

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16:40 EST - DECEE 90 on AR 614 with unid? This is just west of San Antonio Texas (okay a little off topic but it is an ADW bird). Rare to see AR614 in use and far from home for DECEE.

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Oh awesome thank you. I know about adsb and the refuel stuff, i have that turned on.
 

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Oh awesome thank you. I know about adsb and the refuel stuff, i have that turned on.

No problem. It says you are a "Feed Provider". Is this a public feed on Broadcastify ? Any chance you could load it up with the local mil air freqs and we could listen in and see what you can hear ? Where in CT are you located ? I'd start with the local UHF ATC freqs and set them up follow the F-15s as they operate out of the Westfield-Barnes airport (KBAF) back and forth to the warning areas. If you are interested I can give you some frequency setups to try ?
 

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PCT 128.525 talking to GREYHAWK09 about staying on routing or going direct to Hagerstown. Nothing showing on ADSBx
Must be near AP Hill, PC-12 SKQ61 was pointed out.

1923- Too bad it's dark, got a visual on the lights of GREYHAWK09 heading north to the west of KJYO.
1927- Doing some approaches then back to Chambers. 126.1
 
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The CAP broke up about 9 am so I'm figuring the "Big Foot/Huntress" link might not have been active when you were there at 10 am. But thank you for the effort. I think we're all curious now.

I did get a chance to travel to KMIV and KACY today.

At KMIV I received close call hits on my BC125AT 125.450/353.000 KZDC 19 Woodstown.
I received KZDC center side hits on both the VHF and UHF.'
I did not receive any hits on 134.325/323.3 KZNY 09 Millville (Westminster) either VHF or UHF.

At KACY I received close call hits on the same scanner on 133.125/281.450 KZDC59 Sea Isle High.
I again received center side hits but the odd thing was even when in scan mode, no aircraft side comms on that frequency. I did discover the ZDC center side comms appeared to be patched to the 127.7 ZDC51 Casino (Sea Isle RCAG) on the aircraft side. Meaning an aircraft checked in on ZDC on 127.700, ZDC center replied on 133.125.

My next journey will be to the Sea Isle RCAG located of the Garden State Parkway to try and make heads or tails of this, and the Cedar Lake RCAG to see if any hits come up. Ironically, the Cedar Lake RCAG location is the 20 mile turn around landmark I use when riding my bicycle in the warmer months. Never once did it cross my mind to bring a radio along for the ride.

Is anyone in this forum within control side of HUNTRESS transmissions?
 

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I did get a chance to travel to KMIV and KACY today.

At KMIV I received close call hits on my BC125AT 125.450/353.000 KZDC 19 Woodstown.
I received KZDC center side hits on both the VHF and UHF.'
I did not receive any hits on 134.325/323.3 KZNY 09 Millville (Westminster) either VHF or UHF.

At KACY I received close call hits on the same scanner on 133.125/281.450 KZDC59 Sea Isle High.
I again received center side hits but the odd thing was even when in scan mode, no aircraft side comms on that frequency. I did discover the ZDC center side comms appeared to be patched to the 127.7 ZDC51 Casino (Sea Isle RCAG) on the aircraft side. Meaning an aircraft checked in on ZDC on 127.700, ZDC center replied on 133.125.

My next journey will be to the Sea Isle RCAG located of the Garden State Parkway to try and make heads or tails of this, and the Cedar Lake RCAG to see if any hits come up. Ironically, the Cedar Lake RCAG location is the 20 mile turn around landmark I use when riding my bicycle in the warmer months. Never once did it cross my mind to bring a radio along for the ride.

Is anyone in this forum within control side of HUNTRESS transmissions?
Maybe Just a typo but I believe the UHF side of 125.45 is 363.0 (Woodstown)
 

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I again received center side hits but the odd thing was even when in scan mode, no aircraft side comms on that frequency. I did discover the ZDC center side comms appeared to be patched to the 127.7 ZDC51 Casino (Sea Isle RCAG) on the aircraft side. Meaning an aircraft checked in on ZDC on 127.700, ZDC center replied on 133.125.

Thanks for the report. These 2 sectors (51 and 59) are often combined when traffic is slow, so it's not unusual to hear the same controller simulcasting on both frequencies 127.700 and 133.125.
 

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Thanks for the report. These 2 sectors (51 and 59) are often combined when traffic is slow, so it's not unusual to hear the same controller simulcasting on both frequencies 127.700 and 133.125.

The same thing happens with the Swann sector (134.5). When it's slow, the Swann controller also works 125.45/363.0 (Woodstown) & 132.525/307.25 (Dupont).
 
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