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[VOXScanningYT]

SAM892 spotted on radar above Michigan

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[wbagley]

SAM892 spotted on radar above Michigan

It's coming back from Yokota AB, Japan. As it did on the way over, it stopped for fuel at Anchorage International Airport, not Elmendorf AFB in Alaska.

Not sure who is on it this time.

 

[Hbright]

It's coming back from Yokota AB, Japan. As it did on the way over, it stopped for fuel at Anchorage International Airport, not Elmendorf AFB in Alaska.

Not sure who is on it this time.

I believe it is "empty." It flew SecState over last week, who I believe came home on AF1. Maybe suffered a mx issue that prevented an earlier return?

 

[wbagley]

I believe it is "empty." It flew SecState over last week, who I believe came home on AF1. Maybe suffered a mx issue that prevented an earlier return?

Looking at the load sheet at acars.adsbexchange.com it appears that SAM 892 returned with 20 crew and 15 pax including a couple in the state room.

The White Elefant [sic] was loaded in the aft cargo hold. However, the Grey Ghost was not onboard today. Anybody know what these are?

 

[Mark]

Couple heavies inbound Dover from Alaska area today.
RCH-597 C-5M #85-0005 alpha 3 with crew of 13 and 22 pax and 10k offloads.
RCH 8192 C-17 08-8192.

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2020 local CAP ending with the NOBLE's as one mentions that he will be flying CAP duty Tuesday ,departing on ZDC 360.700
heading South thru Ches Bay.
Guess Tuesday will be the beach house CAP

 

[RaleighGuy]

On Sunday, May 29, the President and the First Lady will travel to Uvalde, Texas, with arrival and departure at Joint Base San Antonio-Kelly Field, San Antonio, TX.

Sunday schedule released, return to Wilmington after Texas visit.

7:40 AM THE PRESIDENT and THE FIRST LADY depart New Castle, Delaware, en route Kelly Field

CDT

10:10 AM THE PRESIDENT and THE FIRST LADY arrive in San Antonio, Texas at Kelly Field (Marine 1 to Uvalde & back)
11:00 AM THE PRESIDENT and THE FIRST LADY arrive in Uvalde, Texas at Garner Field,

6:00 PM THE PRESIDENT and THE FIRST LADY depart Uvalde, Texas en route San Antonio, Texas, from Garner Field, Uvalde, Texas
6:45 PM THE PRESIDENT and THE FIRST LADY depart San Antonio, Texas en route New Castle, Delaware

EDT

11:00 PM THE PRESIDENT and THE FIRST LADY arrive in New Castle, Delaware

 

[RaleighGuy]

New Zealand Prime Minister due at White House Tuesday, thinking he will arrive Sunday or Monday. Looking for a New Zealand flight they might be using.

 

[wbagley]

New Zealand Prime Minister due at White House Tuesday, thinking he will arrive Sunday or Monday. Looking for a New Zealand flight he might be using.

'He'?

She's been politicking on Capitol Hill with the Democrats and went to San Francisco during the last few days after giving the commencement speech at Harvard.

She and her staff ride in style on a RNZAF 757 with Rolls motors.

 

[Mark]

'He'?

She's been politicking on Capitol Hill with the Democrats for the last few days after giving the commencement speech at Harvard this past week.

LOL.. Female Kiwi There was just a Mil Kiwi flight here the other day I think into Boston area. Must have been her...NZ7571 B752 (C87F00)
Plenty of Climate Social Justice warrior Libs at Harvard,Yale etc.
KIW027 NZ7571 B752 logged back into into San Fran from Seattle tonight. She sure sticks to the Safe Political Spaces LOL
KIW27 Royal New Zealand Air Force Flight Tracking and History - FlightAware
Arriving Andrews late Sunday afternoon.

 

[wbagley]

Yep, KIWI 027 was her flight.

She tested positive for Covid week before last and was not scheduled to meet with President Biden until he realized that New Zealand has strict gun control laws after the 2019 Christchurch shootings. I would expect a photo op with some parallels drawn to the recent U.S. shootings.

 

[Mark]

0815 local NOBLE-01,02 departing CAP req VFR low Northbound along Cape May along coast to A/C
before rtb Southbound along coast VFR as low as 1500 feet A/A 263.200.
Cleared down to as low as 5k by ZDC on 285.400.. NOBLE asks the other. Is that a Lighthouse in the middle of the water?
I think he spotted the Fourteen Foot Lighthouse near Mouth of Delaware Bay on Western side.
Fourteen Foot Bank (delawarebaylightkeeper-friend.org)
Potus departed KILG in #09-0017 enroute Texas.

 

[wbagley]

Sunday schedule released, return to Wilmington after Texas visit.

7:40 AM THE PRESIDENT and THE FIRST LADY depart New Castle, Delaware, en route Kelly Field

CDT

10:10 AM THE PRESIDENT and THE FIRST LADY arrive in San Antonio, Texas at Kelly Field (Marine 1 to Uvalde & back)

09-0017 on the way to Kelly Field is AF1 today. 09-0016 SAM 46 is in the lead, it's going to park across town at Randolph AFB.

 

[mdmonitor]

VIP Movement Summary 28 May

SAM 130 (C-37 # 21-1949) San Juan PR-ADW

 

[Mark]

Had some Navy FA/18E's headed North around noon or so.
RAM-11 VFA-83 FL210 and WILDCAT-11 VFA-131 flight of two following on ZDC 363.000 started dropping down.
looking for the JAIKE-3 arrival so assume up into New Jersey.Guess for maybe a NYC Fleetweek flyover or baseball game?
00890WILKES-BARRE (flightaware.com)

1435 ZDC Snow Hill 236.825 GYPSY-11 flight coming North VFA-32 FA/18F also looking for the JAIKE3 arrival.
1439 GYPSY-12 trying ZDC 360.700 for radio check.

 

[Mark]

00890WILKES-BARRE (flightaware.com)

1435 ZDC Snow Hill 236.825 GYPSY-11 flight coming North VFA-32 FA/18F also looking for the JAIKE3 arrival.
1439 GYPSY-12 trying ZDC 360.700 for radio check.

1445 GYPSY-12 L+C on ZDC Woodstown 363.000 at FL 150.
1447 GYPSY-12 says flyover for something unreadable and also the Mets game.
1449 GYPSY's push Philly apch 319.150 " req lower to FL7k. The Mets don't play till tonight 7PM or so.
Maybe doing Philly area flyover before pushing on North.Maybe Teterboro loaded with Hornets today
Got to run now..

 

[GriffissSpotter]

FAST 51 (x2 T-38s) from Whiteman AFB with Syracuse Approach after flying low over the city of Ithaca and Cayuga Lake. Approach just asked them if they would like the overhead, didn’t specify whether it’s going to SYR or RME.

Update - Requested the overhead break at SYR for a full stop.

 

[jsoergel]

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1445 GYPSY-12 L+C on ZDC Woodstown 363.000 at FL 150.
1447 GYPSY-12 says flyover for something unreadable and also the Mets game.
1449 GYPSY's push Philly apch 319.150 " req lower to FL7k. The Mets don't play till tonight 7PM or so.
Maybe doing Philly area flyover before pushing on North.Maybe Teterboro loaded with Hornets today
Got to run now..

Try these:

RAM
306.800
298.300
258.200

GYPSY
353.400
281.000
353.450

 

[RaleighGuy]

SAM46 09-0016 just departed Randolph and Marine 1 showing as TIS-B hit just landed Kelly Field with press Osprey, AF1 09-0017 now in the air headed to Delaware.

Third TIS-B headed inbound now to Kelly. While Governor"s plane TEXDOT 1 (N1TX) and TEXDOT 4 (N504TX) head north bound after leaving Uvalde.

 

[vgames15]

1916- BANKER20 heading back to Mcdill. 59-0094 has its gear down (visual) flying at FL200 400kts

 

[wbagley]

1916- BANKER20 heading back to Mcdill. 59-0094 has its gear down (visual) flying at FL200 400kts

Listening to the LiveATC tapes, it sounds to me like this is a pre-planned gear down maintenance ferry. ATC tries to clear BANKER 20 to FL230 but she says she would like to stay at FL200. Max gear down indicated airspeed on a KC-135 is listed as 320 knots so at FL200 you can easily get much more than that true airspeed. Add the wind vector and you get the groundspeed indicated on ADSBExchange. FL200 appears often in Boeing MELs (Minimum Equipment Lists) since many non-standard configurations, e.g. flaps extended, are flight tested to that altitude during aircraft certification.

A big gotcha on a gear down ferry is that the Flight Management Computers on most aircraft assume a 'clean' configuration (gear and flaps up) for cruise flight and will give overly optimistic fuel predictions enroute.

For example: Hapag-Lloyd Flight 3378 - Wikipedia

AFMAN11-2KC-135V3 has this guidance for a gear down maintenance ferry flight:

4.7. Gear Down Flight Operations. Limit gear down flight operations to sorties required to move the aircraft to a suitable repair facility. Consider gear down flight only after the PIC exhausts all avenues to repair the aircraft in place.

4.7.1. Standard climb-out flight path charts in T.O. 1C-135(K)R-1-1 do not account for a geardown configuration. Therefore, PICs shall not takeoff until there is reasonable assurance that they will achieve/maintain adequate obstacle clearance (to include enroute stops and alternates).

4.7.2. Time and communications capability permitting, validate takeoff data with MAJCOM/A3V or unit OG/OGV.

afman11-2kc-135v3.pdf