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[HM1529]

The ROCCO 61 was a KC-135R, tail 62-3508. That must have been a nice surprise to show up overhead at just a couple of thousand feet.

I followed the link you provided (thank you for that) and eventually got to the McGuire show guide. It looks like it's going to be a slightly improved version of the Andrews show - assuming those aircraft marked "Pending" show up. From what I could find, McGuire apparently doesn't have a Friday "DOD personnel only" day. Hope some of you can make the show and give us a report.

The first pass surprised me quite a bit. The PAANG A-10's are about the only low flying jets I ever see around here. These guys (ROCCO and the T-Birds) were pretty much right overhead and rocked the neighborhood each time they went over. The fourth pass, when I got the good view, was pretty cool. I knew they were going to be coming around one more time based on radio traffic with ATC, so I was able to position myself at a good viewing angle with open sky overhead.

 

[jetcrafter]

REACH 8057 - 98-0057

Alan,

This guy was ETHYL 59s receiver in AR-20NE. Last transmission I heard was his post
AR check in with Moncton Center on 123.900 at 0158z. He was direct CYQY at that time.

Hope this helps

 

[Mateo]

The Pace into Andrews is probably a press charter - remember, the President was at Pope earlier this week. Winston-Salem is the Pace base, and this was probably positioning up to work another charter tomorrow (didn't look at the schedule, but I'd assume the road show is back on).

If everything goes to plan, I'll be at the McGuire show this weekend. It's an AF show, so there usually isn't the breadth of statics that you'll find at a show like Andrews, although it's now Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst so maybe we'll get a 3-branch show of support. The highlight (for me, at least) of last year's show was the "home team" display, where a KC-135E, KC-10, and C-17 made a couple of passes down the flightline (much like the F-15/F-22 formation at Langley, but way better :> ). Unfortunately, you're pointed south, so the entire show is backlit, morning and afternoon. My other note is that the static display was stretched out over an enormous area - approx 4300'x900' for a static of 30-35 airplanes. Andrews, on the other hand, has 3 times as many airplanes in an area approx 3200'x700.' The Langley display, similar in size to McGuire, is around 1500'x800'.

Heard/saw two over Dulles today; SPAR 14, a C-9, at 1528 (had 1 Space A and needed 1 block of dry ice -141.55-, and REACH 738T, the McChord C-17 at 1552.

 

[CitationJet]

Re: 161206

Hi Tin,

Sorry, that was a joke - 161206 has been NAF-based for quite some time now, was hoping for a nice switch to Gitmo...)

Tony

Tony, my little crew has it confirmed as a KNAF assigned bird. He came in today as MARINE 206.

 

[CitationJet]

Re :McGuire show

Hi Mateo,

I think you forgot the real highlight of the show while involved in your complex ramp measurements and analysis...)

The NJ ANG hangars/ramps man!

Tony

If everything goes to plan, I'll be at the McGuire show this weekend. It's an AF show, so there usually isn't the breadth of statics that you'll find at a show like Andrews, although it's now Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst so maybe we'll get a 3-branch show of support. The highlight (for me, at least) of last year's show was the "home team" display, where a KC-135E, KC-10, and C-17 made a couple of passes down the flightline (much like the F-15/F-22 formation at Langley, but way better :> ). Unfortunately, you're pointed south, so the entire show is backlit, morning and afternoon. My other note is that the static display was stretched out over an enormous area - approx 4300'x900' for a static of 30-35 airplanes. Andrews, on the other hand, has 3 times as many airplanes in an area approx 3200'x700.' The Langley display, similar in size to McGuire, is around 1500'x800'.

 

[TinEar]

Hi Tin,

Sorry, that was a joke - 161206 has been NAF-based for quite some time now, was hoping for a nice switch to Gitmo...)

Tony

Oh. I guess I was slow on the uptake. I was sitting here thinking, "Tony certainly knows that's a NAF bird. What's he saying?" I was getting something cryptic instead of something funny.

 

[CitationJet]

05.27.2008 am

Just the one earlier...

1043Z 125.650 PT DEP - NAVY 601 - deps Andrews 2000'-3000' then cleared to 17000' dir DAILY QSY ZDC-Calvert 133.900.

 

[TinEar]

Air Force One (VC-25A, 82-8000) departed Andrews early in the 1000 hour this morning. It was followed about 10 minutes later by SAM 91 (C-32A, 98-0001, 1st AS Andrews.) They're heading for Phoenix for fundraising duties. That PACE 3853 flight is apparently the press plane as indicated by Mateo above. It departed Andrews early this morning (0640) and went to Tulsa. And now it's currently in the air heading to Phoenix.

Mid-0900, a KC-10A (87-0122, 305th AMW McGuire) departed McGuire heading west. He was using a callsign I haven't heard in a while - WRESTLER 91.
About 45 minutes later, MAINE 91 (KC-135R, 59-1498, 132nd ARS ME-ANG Bangor) flew through the area.
Considering the 91 suffix on both of them, they'll be recovering at a base other than their own today. But, since AMC doesn't share their mission board with me, I have no idea where they're going....yet.

 

[BM82557]

Activity 05/27/2008

1100 hr local -- MUSIC 62 receiving clearance delivery to BNA - 121.8

Any ideas on what that was?

 

[Waltz41]

1100 hr local -- MUSIC 62 receiving clearance delivery to BNA - 121.8

Any ideas on what that was?

If I remember right....think I've heard that as C-130 callsign for Tennesee ANG....they might be WC-130s actually. something along those lines.

 

[TinEar]

1100 hr local -- MUSIC 62 receiving clearance delivery to BNA - 121.8

Any ideas on what that was?

The callsign goes with the 105th AS of the TN-ANG. That would make it a C-130H and I had one of those at the right time - tail 89-1182. Most often though, that unit matches their suffix to the last two numbers of the tail...but not always. So, it might be the right aircraft and then again...
At least he was going to Nashville (BNA) which also fits.

1426: After calling Dover CP about 20 times, REACH 7173 (C-17A, 07-7173, 436th AW Dover) finally makes contact to report 20 minutes out, A-2, 7 crew, no pax or cargo to download, needs parking spot and crew transportation...349.4 [After making contact and giving his message, Dover didn't copy it so 7173 repeated the entire thing. Then, he still had trouble converying the content of his writeups for the A-2 maintenance status.]
1432: REACH 7173 explains to Dover CP that he was REACH 940 but is now REACH 7173...349.4 [He was heard in Europe yesterday as REACH 940.]
1433: For the fourth time, REACH 7173 explains he has a lavatory problem - it won't flush...349.4 [And it's a brand new aircraft. Bet that was fun on the trip home from Europe.]

1437: Air Force Two (C-32A, 98-0002, 1st AS Andrews) w/ADW Tower for landing runway 19R...118.4

1445: RHET 31 (KC-135R, 59-1507, 99th ARS Robins) w/ADW CP for arrival message...378.1
1446: RHET 31 switches to ADW Tower to confirm active runway is 19R after trying and failing to get that info from CP...118.4
By the way, that same KC-135 was TANKER 06 this past weekend during the CAP.
1502: RHET 31 [female] w/ADW Tower reports 8 miles out, gear down for runway 19R...cleared to land...118.4

1448: Haven't been monitoring fighter freqs (another project going on) but just heard MARLIN 51 (Langley F-22A) w/Norfolk TRACON mention his flight is working with a DAGGER flight in W-386...370.925
1449: So...I tune to 249.8 and sure enough hear MARLIN 51 signing in with Giant Killer as a single F-22 to work W-386 A-J on mission V-2703...DAGGER 61 (Langley F-22A) also signs in...249.8
1453: MARLIN and DAGGER working GK's tactical freq...292.3
1456: VODKA flight of Langley F-22s working GK's tac freq...373.1

 

[Mark]

Mid-0900, a KC-10A (87-0122, 305th AMW McGuire) departed McGuire heading west. He was using a callsign I haven't heard in a while - WRESTLER 91.
About 45 minutes later, MAINE 91 (KC-135R, 59-1498, 132nd ARS ME-ANG Bangor) flew through the area.
Considering the 91 suffix on both of them, they'll be recovering at a base other than their own today. But, since AMC doesn't share their mission board with me, I have no idea where they're going....yet.
1433: For the fourth time, REACH 7173 explains he has a lavatory problem - it won't flush...349.4 [And it's a brand new aircraft. Bet that was fun on the trip home from Europe.]

Also logged DEVIL 91 depart Atlantic City with their CP at 1040 local.Not sure how many.
Could be related.
Those vacuum Lavs jam easily if people put the wrong things in there like they do all the time on the trains..
Those Lav warning signs aren't meant for little ole me! LOL

1457 Huntress with sounded like DAGGER 61 and 62 on GK 292.300,doing ACM intercept exercise.

Mark

 

[BM82557]

The callsign goes with the 105th AS of the TN-ANG. That would make it a C-130H and I had one of those at the right time - tail 89-1182. Most often though, that unit matches their suffix to the last two numbers of the tail...but not always. So, it might be the right aircraft and then again...
At least he was going to Nashville (BNA) which also fits.

Alan it could easily have been 82 as I was across the room at the time in front of the tv and Barney went into a song. No, I don't have a problem (you might get a different answer from some of my friends though). My wife and I had our great-neice in the morning and I had the challenge of trying to listen to the radio while watching a 1 year old at the same time. The scanner lost.

Brian

 

[dparana]

About 45 minutes later, MAINE 91 (KC-135R, 59-1498, 132nd ARS ME-ANG Bangor) flew through the area.
Considering the 91 suffix on both of them, they'll be recovering at a base other than their own today. But, since AMC doesn't share their mission board with me, I have no idea where they're going....yet.

Caught MAINE 91 at about 10:32AM local checking in with RICK CONTROL (Rickenbacker AFB). Sounded like it was going to be a quick turn-around, they were not even going to shut down the engines.

Also logged DEVIL 91 depart Atlantic City with their CP at 1040 local.Not sure how many.
Could be related.

Mark

Had a DEVIL 81 working with a JEEP 21 refueling on AR220 Primary Freq of 274.45 at about 12:35PM Local. DEVIL 81 was headed direct to Fort Wayne after AR.

 

[Mateo]

Hi Mateo,

I think you forgot the real highlight of the show while involved in your complex ramp measurements and analysis...)

The NJ ANG hangars/ramps man!

Tony

Oh, you mean those ol' bangers that get towed forward 10 feet every month to make sure the tires don't go flat? :-D Actually, yeah, those are great, since you don't see Es in the wild anymore, and isn't the E to R program finished for the 135s? (It's about to start on the E-8s)

Speaking of the C-17 going A-2, a crewmember at an airshow once described that as the only limitation to the C-17s endurance. It's front and centre on the forward bulkhead; right next to the staircase that leads up to the flight deck.

 

[TinEar]

Around 1830 we've got both the Commander Naval Forces Europe and PACAF Commander arriving at Andrews. Navy honcho is in his C-20A, BuNo 830500 and PACAF chief in his C-37A, tail 01-0065 (using SPAR 65 for a callsign.) Of course, I'm assuming (since neither called me to confirm it) both commanders are aboard their respective personal aircraft.

Also approximately 1830...
E-6B, 164388, VQ-4 is climbing out of Patuxent. Heading northeast toward Waterloo after climbing to FL 210.
REACH 713T, C-17A, 06-6157, 60th AMW Travis arriving ADW
DC 21 (KC-135R, 62-3528, 756th ARS AFRC Andrews) working in the pattern at ADW
MARINE 474 (UC-35D, 166474, MAW-4) also in the pattern at ADW

1855: DECEE 22 (KC-135R, 62-3543, 756th ARS Andrews) wheels up from ADW at this time...118.4 and 378.1

 

[mdmonitor]

Heads Up New England

Ed,
John,

1936- Reach 518- departed DOV then w/ZDC (127.7) then w/ZNY (128.3). Looks like he's headed your way

 

[mdmonitor]

Tacamo

1950- Unid acft (call missed)-w/Shadow Maintenance (310.15).
1952- Top 59 (sounds like, unid-poss E-6B TACAMO)-check in w/ZDC (133.9) at FL110 for FL100. Then w/PAX approach (120.05) w/request for some patterns at PAX (135.025)

 

[mdmonitor]

Logs, 27 May

Just a few from this evening:

ACY-Atlantic City NJ
ADW- Andrews AFB MD
BW- Bay Watch-NAS PAX Area Advisory Control
GK- Giantkiller (FACSFAC, Virginia Capes)
MTN-Martin State Airport, Baltimore
NXX- Willow Grove JRB PA
PAX-NAS Patuxent River MD
WRI-McGuire AFB NJ
ZBW-Boston ARTCC
ZDC- Washington ARTCC
ZNY- New York ARTCC

1. VHF/UHF: ((Times are EDT))

1915- Reach 704T (id as KC-10)-w/McGuire CP (319.4) w/inbound msg.
1927- Baton 55 (EC-130J, 193rd SOG PA ANG Harrisburg)-w/Baton Ops (395.1) discussing wx conditions. Can't get into Harrisburg due to severe wx and will spend extra hour in area W107 before trying to RTB around 2130 local time.
1933- Baton 55-checks in w/GK (255.0) for entry into W107.
1936- Reach 518- w/ZDC (127.7) then w/ZNY (128.3)
1950- Unid acft (call missed)-w/Shadow Maintenance (310.15).
1952- Top 59 (sounds like, unid-poss E-6B TACAMO)-check in w/ZDC (133.9) at FL110 for FL100. Then w/PAX approach (120.05) w/request for some patterns at PAX (135.025)
1958- Opec 29 (KC-10A 2nd/32nd ARS MCGUIRE AFB)-check in w/GK (118.125).
2000- Reach 492-w/Griffin CP (378.1)
2004- Sunny 304 (RC-12, Hunter AAF, Savannah GA)-w/ZDC (133.9) requesting direct Tar River.
2014- Nellie 3101 (unid)-land at ADW (118.4)
2020- Guard 21929 (OH-58A+ Kiowa Co. 'A' / 1-224th Avn; (S&S), Maryland Ar.NG; Weide AHP)-patterns at Weide AAF (126.2)

Ron (mdmonitor1@verizon.net)
Baltimore MD (390747N 763711W)
VHF/UHF: BC-895XLT/RS Pro-2045
Diamond D-130J discone
HF: Icom R75 & Sangean ATS 909
45-ft EF-SWL & 70-ft random wire

 

[TinEar]

The E-6B - 164388 - that departed Pax around 1830 is already coming back. Shortly before 2100, he reported to Maintenance he was 10-15 minutes out...310.15
I didn't hear him report any problem aboard the aircraft but that's a very short flight for an E-6.