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[CitationJet]

07.21.2009

07.21.2009

1813Z 125.650 PT DEP - VENUS 01 (VC-25A 99th AS PGO) - 1300'-3K-5K dir EMI QSY PT DEP 128.700.
1818Z 141.550 GRIFFIN CP Andrews AFB - PAT 193 - C-12 15 mins. out code A5 + 2.
1822Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - GUARD 72056 (UH-72A 07-2056 121st Med. Co. DC ArNG Davison AAF) - shooting apps.
1827Z 128.350 PT APP - MARINE 041 - 14100'-12K-9K vis rwy 1L ADW.
1833Z 119.850 PT APP - PAT 507P (Be300 N507P contract OSACOM VA RFC Davison AAF) - QSY Davison AAF GCA 118.850 2500'-2K to Final RDR 119.950 for a APR app to rwy 14.
1833Z 119.850 PT APP - PAT 193 - vis rwy 1L ADW QSY Andrews AFB TWR 118.400 for landing.

2037Z 118.850 Davison AAF GCA - NAVY 7C 678 (UC12B/M NAS Oceana NFD) - 2500'-2K for rwy 14 QSY Final RDR 119.950.
2039Z 119.850 PT APP - TITUS 52 (C-130T VR-53).
2043Z 119.850 PT APP - VENUS 01 (VC-25A 99th AS PGO) - 6K req vis rwy 19R ADW dir ADW QSY PT APP 119.300 5K-4K.
2056Z 133.550 ZDC-Linden - ARMY 101 - 16K.
2059Z 118.590 PT DEP - NAVY 7C 678 (UC12B/M NAS Oceana NFD) - to 5K dir GRUBY QSY PT APP 126.400.

2125Z 128.350 PT APP - ARMY 1944 (C-37A 97-1944 PATD Andrews) - 15K-12K ILS rwy 19R ADW.
2128Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - PAT 914 - lands rwy 14.
2132Z 119.850 PT APP - JOSA 138 - ILS rwy 19R ADW 8K-6K QST PT APP 119.300 at 3K.
2133Z 378.100 GRIFFIN CP Andrews AFB - JOSA 138 - arr. msg.

 

[mdmonitor]

Army UAV

Guys,

Found this---may be related to the UAV stuff I'm hearing on 123.4:

Shadow 200 is the smallest of the Shadow family of unmanned aircraft systems developed by AAI. It is in operational service with the US Army and US Marine Corps.

Shadow 200 is used to locate, recognise and identify targets up to 125km from a brigade tactical operations centre. The system recognises tactical vehicles by day and night from an altitude of 8,000ft and at a slant range of 3.5km. Imagery and telemetry data is transmitted in near-real time from the Shadow ground control station to joint stars common ground station, all-sources analysis system and to the army field artillery targeting and direction system.

Shadow is in operational service in Afghanistan and in Iraq. By the end of December 2007, it had amassed more than 234,000 flight hours and flown in more than 55,000 missions.

The Shadow family of unmanned aircraft systems is produced at AAI's facilities in Hunt Valley, Maryland. AAI Corporation is a subsidiary of United Industrial Corporation.

TUAS programme

The AAI Shadow TUAS team is led by the prime contractor AAI Corporation with major team members CDL Systems Ltd, Chandler May Inc, Sierra Nevada Corporation, IAI-TAMAM and UAV Engines Ltd. The programme is managed by the US army unmanned aircraft systems project manager's office in Huntsville, Alabama.

 

[TinEar]

Hi Tin,

I did not see it in your SBS log yesterday, and I usually don't look at them too closely, I just scan them for any C-12s that might show up...)

Tony

I've instructed the program to disregard C-12s in the future and to not copy them into the log.

0709 EDT- UAV-1 & 2 are up again this morning on 123.4

Finally hearing them Ron. At 0902 they came up for radio checks and they do sound like young Army guys.

 

[CitationJet]

07.22.2009 pm

07.22.2009 pm

...and a few later on in the day:

1844Z 119.850 PT APP - BELGIAN AIR FORCE 616 (A310 21sm) - 6K req rwy 19R ADW QSY PT APP 119.850 > 119.300.
1847Z 141.550 GRIFFIN CP Andrews AFB - PAT 898 (C-12 86-0084 - base currently not verified) - C-12 tail #60084 20 mins out.
1850Z 128.350 PT APP - MARINE 824 - vis rwy 19R ADW.
1854Z 119.300 PT APP - SPAR 12 (C-9C/C-40C 93rd AS AFRC) - vis rwy 19R ADW.
1859Z 119.850 PT APP - PAT 898 (C-12 86-0084 - base currently not verified) - vis rwy 19R ADW 8K-6K QSY PT APP 119.300.

2006Z 119.300 PT APP - TITUS 52 (C-130T VR-53) - RNAV rwy 19R ADW 4K-3K.
2014Z 127.050 MCAF Quantico ARR - NAVY 7A 326 (UC-12B 161326 NAS Patuxent River) - 2500'-1700' for the vis. app. to rwy 20 at KNYG QSY MCAF Quantico TWR 118.600 for landing.
2022Z 118.950 PT DEP - MARINE 824 - 1100'-3K-5K off ADW.

2114Z 128.350 SAM 5817 - 14K-12K ILS rwy 19R ADW.
2132Z 128.350 PT APP - CONVOY 3653 - 16K for ILS rwy 19R ADW.
2134Z 119.300 PT APP - TROUT 98 (C-20E 87-0139 412th FLTS) - QSY Andrews AFB TWR 118.4 9 nms out ILS rwy 19R.

 

[mdmonitor]

Score 40

Tin,
Mark,

1010 EDT Have Score 87 (sounds like a jet--has that mask sound so poss EA-6B) working DOV approach (257.875) for some patterns then will RTB PAX.

 

[TinEar]

Nothing here on that SCORE Ron.

I've been listening to that 123.4 freq and it's kind of interesting even though I have no idea of the scope of their comms. Definitely Army though. Heard U82 tell "Top" that he had to take his laptop and move to another location and then announce when he was there.

NATO 09 (E-3A, LX-N90455) operating in the area again. Picked him up at 1106. He's climbing. Lost him from Mode-S at 1122:39 showing at FL 289.
1108: CRAB 57 (C-130J, 98-1357, 135th AS MD-ANG Martin State) with MTN Tower as he goes wheels up...121.3
1109: CRAB 57 to CRAB Ops announces "off at 08 past the hour"...384.1
I've been monitoring these two freqs in the hopes of catching that transport from yesterday with the 92 suffix. He said he was going to fuel up at 0830 this morning but I've heard nothing from him yet.
1116: EVAC 756 (C-21A, 84-0135, 458th AS Scott) w/ADW Twr for landing runway 19R...118.4
EVAC 756 mentions a ramp freeze at Andrews.
These are posted:
AIR TERMINAL RAMP FREEZE. 24 JUL 02:35 2009 UNTIL 24 JUL 03:05 2009. CREATED:
22 JUL 21:36 2009
AIR TERMINAL RAMP FREEZE. 23 JUL 15:10 2009 UNTIL 23 JUL 15:40 2009. CREATED:
22 JUL 21:28 2009
So, EVAC 756 was allowed to land during a ramp freeze. Unusual. Perhaps the "EVAC" status is allowed to override the freeze?

Ref below: Ron, yes, see log last evening at 1750. Had one then and have been seeing them on a fairly regular basis.

 

[mdmonitor]

Vaq-209

The 3 "Ts" (Tin, Tony, Travis) & Mark,

Have any one you heard anything from the VAQ-209 EA-6Bs lately? I don't remember seeing any posts or SBS logs on them nor have personally heard them for quite awhile.

Just curious---am I missing something?

 

[TinEar]

SBS log for 23 July:


AE0940 166374 --- 12:23:55.553 UC-35D MAW-4
AE02F4 86-0411 AREWR51 12:22:09.108 C-130H AFRC/440AW/95AS
AE02F4 86-0411 --- 12:21:58.139 C-130H AFRC/440AW/95AS
ADFEEB 160047 --- 12:17:57.887 C-9B VMR-1
ADFEEB 160047 LOBO2 12:17:57.887 C-9B VMR-1
AE14F5 65-0970 KING70 12:14:40.855 HC-130P AFRC/920RQW/39RQS
AE14F5 65-0970 --- 12:13:26.208 HC-130P AFRC/920RQW/39RQS
AE049C 59-1517 --- 12:12:08.405 KC-135 ANG/AZ/197ARS
AE0159 57-1512 DC41 12:10:28.256 KC-135R AFRC/459ARW/756ARS
AE0F04 160290 --- 12:04:08.177 P-3C VX-20/WB
AE0167 86-0202 S60202 11:55:29.767 C-20B 89thAW/99thAS
ADFEB7 98-0001 VENUS91 11:54:44.044 C-32A 1stAS
ADFEB7 98-0001 ------- 11:52:27.748 C-32A 1stAS
AE0167 86-0202 ------- 11:52:20.748 C-20B 89thAW/99thAS
A09727 N137WA WOA9657 11:45:02.703 DC-10 WorldAirways
A09727 N137WA ------- 11:44:53.093 DC-10 WorldAirways
AE0525 68-0225 ------- 11:43:45.046 C-5A 167thAS/WVANG
ADFDF8 82-8000 AF1 11:40:12.781 VC-25A 1stAS
ADFDF8 82-8000 ------- 11:40:11.156 VC-25A 1stAS
AE020F 79-1951 GHOST51 11:19:17.703 KC-10A 60thAMW
AE020F 79-1951 ------- 11:18:39.031 KC-10A 60thAMW
AE0194 84-0134 EVAC756 11:15:05.953 C-21A 458thAS
AE0194 84-0134 ------- 11:14:10.296 C-21A 458thAS
AE0255 98-1357 CRAB57 11:09:27.343 C-130J ANG/MD/175W/135AS
AE0255 98-1357 ------- 11:09:10.078 C-130J ANG/MD/175W/135AS
4D03CD LX-N90455 NATO09 11:05:06.125 E-3A NAEWandCF
4D03CD LX-N90455 ------- 11:05:05.703 E-3A NAEWandCF
AE0159 57-1512 ------- 10:45:30.218 KC-135R AFRC/459ARW/756ARS
ADFED5 85-1267 ALLIED 1 10:38:14.703 C-12T OSACOM/VA RFC
ADFED5 85-1267 ------- 10:37:44.703 C-12T OSACOM/VA RFC
AE019A 84-0103 DILLON3 10:37:37.343 C-21A 118thAS/103rdAWCT-ANG
AE03D2 164441 ------- 10:36:59.187 KC-130T VMGR-452/NY
AE0406 99-0402 S5193 10:35:40.343 C-37A 89thAW/99thAS
AE019A 84-0103 ------- 10:33:05.359 C-21A 118thAS/103rdAWCT-ANG
AE0167 86-0202 S60202 10:27:10.093 C-20B 89thAW/99thAS
AE0173 84-0118 JOSA718 10:26:23.703 C-21A 458thAS
AE0167 86-0202 ------- 10:25:40.921 C-20B 89thAW/99thAS
AE0173 84-0118 ------- 10:25:31.171 C-21A 458thAS
AAFF73 ------ ------- 10:22:14.750 C-130T VR-53/AX
AE093B 00-1052 ------- 10:07:04.703 UC-35B PATD
AE10C1 01 ------- 10:06:59.796 C-37A CGASWashingtonD.C.
AE146D 07-7175 ------- 10:02:27.703 C-17A 3rdAS/436thAW
AE146D 07-7175 RIDER75 10:02:27.703 C-17A 3rdAS/436thAW
AE08EB ------- TITUS99 10:00:34.140 C-130T VR-53/AX
AE04AC 99-0103 CAF00000 09:55:36.359 UC-35a1 228thAviationRegiment
AE04AC 99-0103 ------- 09:53:01.703 UC-35a1 228thAviationRegiment
AE08EB ------ ------- 09:51:17.703 C-130T VR-53/AX
A613A3 N108AX RCH357 09:46:57.171 DC-10 OmniAirInternational
A613A3 N108AX ------- 09:42:38.187 DC-10 OmniAirInternational
AE06C1 161319 ------- 09:38:37.703 UC-12B WillowGrove
29CBB8 Various 00000000 09:36:29.109 Various Various
ADFDE4 86-0403 S60403 09:20:05.984 C-20C 89thAW/99thAS
ADFDE4 86-0403 ------ 09:19:55.218 C-20C 89thAW/99thAS
AE0940 166374 ------- 09:11:55.234 UC-35D MAW-4
AE13D1 04-1778 ------- 09:07:39.906 C-37B USARMY
AE0406 99-0402 S5193 09:07:18.703 C-37A 89thAW/99thAS
AE0406 99-0402 ------- 09:03:51.187 C-37A 89thAW/99thAS
29CBB8 Various ------- 08:57:42.921 Various Various
ADFEDA 86-0084 ------- 08:56:12.125 C-12T VARFC
AE04AC 99-0103 ------- 08:36:21.687 UC-35a1 228thAviationRegiment
A9A3A2 N720AX RCH291 08:34:25.218 DC-10 OmniAirInternational
A9A3A2 N720AX ------- 08:34:24.203 DC-10 OmniAirInternational

 

[mdmonitor]

Nothing here on that SCORE Ron.

I've been listening to that 123.4 freq and it's kind of interesting even though I have no idea of the scope of their comms. Definitely Army though. Heard U82 tell "Top" that he had to take his laptop and move to another location and then announce when he was there.

Tin,

Last I heard was UAV-2 telling control that " there are alot of aircraft here so we'll have to wait awhile"---maybe they are deployed to the BWI area? Or maybe at Ft Meade Tipton ????

 

[TinEar]

Early 1200 hour, had someone out in the offshore areas (probably W-72) calling GIANTKILLER many times on 238.1 and 118.125. His callsign sounded like "JOINT OPS 290"
Anyone else get him and any ideas on who it might be?

 

[TinEar]

Tin,

Last I heard was UAV-2 telling control that " there are alot of aircraft here so we'll have to wait awhile"---maybe they are deployed to the BWI area? Or maybe at Ft Meade Tipton ????

Heard that too. I would think Ft. Meade. As many times as I tried to get UAV2 out of his call, all I can hear is U82 and U81. I notice the signal strength is good (full bars) but the modulation is fairly low in comparison.

1241: BAF 16...uhhh...BAF 616 (A-310, CA-02, 21 Squadron, Belgian AF) off from ADW. (Heard w/TRACON 118.95 or 125.65 but didn't notice which) and then to 124.55.

I mentioned SAM 60202 (which he's showing in Mode-S) earlier but he's really flying as VENUS 22....had him with TRACON 124.55 at 1247 asking for direct RATTA. Handed to 128.35 where he says he doesn't really have to go to RATTA but could take vectors to VOR/DME....no go - he's sent to RATTA. Says he'll start the approach from there.

1307: CRAB 57 on his way back to MTN...calls CRAB Ops and reports 10 minutes out, 14K fuel and is A-1. Ground tells him to park in D-4...384.1
1310: PIcked up E-6B (162784) heading west (267 degrees) across southern PA. He was due north of Cecil County MD when first picked up - and now north of Baltimore County. At 1328, he's north of Frederick County (about to hit north of Washington County), still heading west across PA
1320: CRAB 57 w/MTN Twr for landing...cleared to land....121.3
1321: GOT HIM!!!! TORCH 92 (C-130H, 94-6703, 169th AS IL-ANG Peoria) to CRAB Ops reporting "off at1715" as he climbs out from MTN...384.1
This is the guy from yesterday that I was hearing on the ground as 92 and suspected it was a TORCH aircraft. He's displaying TORCH77 in his Mode-S transceiver.

 

[mdmonitor]

Heard that too. I would think Ft. Meade. As many times as I tried to get UAV2 out of his call, all I can hear is U82 and U81. I notice the signal strength is good (full bars) but the modulation is fairly low in comparison.

.

Tin,

Yesterday heard them make ref to 123.4 as the " aircraft VHF freq." Have been searching the 225-380 Mhz area to see if they are also using UHF but so far nothing.

 

[Tech792]

1430 local- HAWK 11 with ATC on 282.3 FL230, then switched to 317.7 down to FL180

 

[mdmonitor]

UHF Search

Tin,

I figure you have better records on freqs---so here's what I've run across so far iin my UHF search:

236.425- unid
249.1-unid, sounded like some sort of approach/departure
250.85--PAX ????
282.275- BWI
307.9- BWI
327.8- Norfolk
339.675- unid

 

[Mark]

SBS log for 23 July:

AE020F 79-1951 GHOST51 11:19:17.703 KC-10A 60thAMW

1130 local Heard GHOST-51 inbound Mcguire self id as Travis KC-10 #79-1951.
"We are working out of Pax River NAS but inbound Mcguire alpha 2 for our
drogue".Also req fleet service for latrine.

Mark

 

[Mark]

Tin,
Mark,

1010 EDT Have Score 87 (sounds like a jet--has that mask sound so poss EA-6B) working DOV approach (257.875) for some patterns then will RTB PAX.

The only thing close I had showing at that time was
161511 Navy UC-12B Huron in area.

Mark

 

[TinEar]

Tin,

I figure you have better records on freqs---so here's what I've run across so far iin my UHF search:

236.425- unid
249.1-unid, sounded like some sort of approach/departure
250.85--PAX ????
282.275- BWI
307.9- BWI
327.8- Norfolk
339.675- unid

Ron, the only one I can confirm is 250.85 for Patuxent. It's their Helo Advisory freq. In fact, it's on our friend's list too as...
APP AM NW ALERT/HELO ADVISORY

The 236.425 and 339.675 freqs I've mentioned before that I had U/I activity on them and I've never been able to ID them. Isn't that 236.425 involved with Willow Grove somehow? Perhaps the A-10s?

That 249.1 freq sounds interesting as an approach/departure freq. I wonder where? I'll have to plug that one in.

Ron, I finally logged a SCORE aircraft today. It's coming up in the next SBS log chunk at 1336/1339.

 

[TinEar]

Another SBS chunk:


AE036F 98-0009 ------- 16:30:53.233 UC-35A OSACOMDet4DC-ArNG
AE1904 79-0139 790104 16:30:17.889 OA-10A 47thFS
AE1904 79-0139 ------- 16:30:04.764 OA-10A 47thFS
4D03CD LX-N90455 ----- 16:18:24.885 E-3A NAEWandCF
4D03CD LX-N90455 NATO09 16:18:24.885 E-3A NAEWandCF
ADFEEE 160050 ------- 16:16:50.744 C-9B VR-52
AE1479 166767 ------- 16:16:04.353 UC-35D VMR-2
AE03E3 164996 ------- 16:13:05.742 C-130T VR-64/BD
AE1468 07-7170 ------- 16:12:57.273 C-17A 3rdAS/436thAW
AE1468 07-7170 RCH145T 16:12:57.273 C-17A 3rdAS/436thAW
AE1390 ------ ------- 16:00:39.112 T-38C ntps
AE0630 84-0172 ------- 15:59:57.268 C-12T Det6/CT-ArNG
AE1286 69-5819 ------- 15:56:08.751 MC-130p 16SOW/9SOS
AE1286 69-5819 RCH 1007 15:56:08.751 MC-130p 16SOW/9SOS
AE152C 166378 ------- 15:52:13.750 C-37B VR-1
ADFEE6 159117 ------- 15:50:55.749 C-9B VR-56
ADFEE6 159117 JU117 15:50:55.749 C-9B VR-56
AE08B5 165926 ------- 15:23:29.395 T-6A ntps
AE08B2 165962 @@@@@@@@ 15:22:32.738 T-6A ntps
AE206D 06-0500 S5278 15:19:51.034 C-37B 89thAW/99thAS
AE206D 06-0500 ------- 15:13:53.938 C-37B 89thAW/99thAS
AE0209 79-0434 HOIST99 15:10:04.734 KC-10A 305thAMW
AE0209 79-0434 ------- 15:06:59.356 KC-10A 305thAMW
AE06C1 161319 ------- 15:05:58.215 UC-12B WillowGrove
AE07FE 98-0052 RCH189 14:49:29.999 C-17A 62ndAW
AE07FE 98-0052 ------- 14:49:13.140 C-17A 62ndAW
ADFE97 95-0098 ------- 14:47:43.357 C-12R+ 2-228thAviation
AE019A 84-0103 DILLON3 14:45:56.715 C-21A 118thAS/103rdAWCT-ANG
AE019A 84-0103 ------- 14:43:39.776 C-21A 118thAS/103rdAWCT-ANG
AE08B2 165962 ------- 14:32:55.282 T-6A ntps
AE0159 57-1512 DC41 14:32:42.282 KC-135R AFRC/459ARW/756ARS
AE0159 57-1512 ------- 14:30:43.045 KC-135R AFRC/459ARW/756ARS
ADFEEB 160047 LOBO2 14:21:21.691 C-9B VMR-1
ADFEEB 160047 ------- 14:19:30.079 C-9B VMR-1
A69172 N522MC GTI8174 14:17:31.046 B-742 AtlasAir
AE07EE 96-0004 RCH101 14:12:18.227 C-17A 437thAW
AE03E3 164996 ------- 14:09:32.677 C-130T VR-64/BD
AE07EE 96-0004 ------- 14:09:23.333 C-17A 437thAW
AE03B1 ------ SCORE12 13:39:38.836 E-2C VX-20/WB
AE03B1 ------ ------- 13:36:16.610 E-2C VX-20/WB
ADFEF0 161266 @@@@@@@@ 13:36:13.266 C-9B VR-46
ADFEF0 161266 ------- 13:29:48.739 C-9B VR-46
AE06C5 161206 @@@@@@@ 13:21:35.736 UC-12B Washington
ADFDE8 94-6703 TORCH77 13:18:49.777 C-130H ANG/IL/169AS
AE06C5 161206 ------- 13:18:39.589 UC-12B Washington
ADFDE8 94-6703 ------- 13:18:33.932 C-130H ANG/IL/169AS
AE1342 161242 ------- 13:15:37.816 EA-6B USNAVY
AE040F 162784 GOTO FMS 13:14:50.596 E-6B VQ-3
AE1C2F ------ ------- 13:11:30.197 C-12R ---
AE152C 166378 ------- 13:11:08.571 C-37B VR-1
AE040F 162784 ------- 13:10:39.008 E-6B VQ-3
AE0209 79-0434 HOIST99 13:08:35.706 KC-10A 305thAMW
AE0255 98-1357 CRAB57 13:07:16.561 C-130J ANG/MD/175W/135AS
AE0255 98-1357 ------- 13:06:42.966 C-130J ANG/MD/175W/135AS
AE0209 79-0434 ------- 13:04:53.555 KC-10A 305thAMW
ADFD81 91-0572 ------- 13:02:54.581 C-26B OSACOM/Det 30 AR-ArNG
AE08EB ------- TITUS99 12:49:04.259 C-130T VR-53/AX
ADFEE6 159117 ------- 12:41:38.577 C-9B VR-56
44F502 CA-02 ------- 12:41:11.154 A-310-222 21SM
44F502 CA-02 BAF616 12:41:11.982 A-310-222 21SM
AE08EB ------- ------- 12:40:49.418 C-130T VR-53/AX
AE093B 00-1052 ------- 12:40:42.105 UC-35B PATD
AE0167 86-0202 ------- 12:38:46.974 C-20B 89thAW/99thAS
AE0167 86-0202 S60202 12:38:46.974 C-20B 89thAW/99thAS
ADFEEE 160050 ------- 12:30:29.441 C-9B VR-52
AE0194 84-0134 EVAC756 12:29:12.935 C-21A 458thAS
AE0194 84-0134 ------- 12:28:27.151 C-21A 458thAS

 

[mdmonitor]

Ron, the only one I can confirm is 250.85 for Patuxent. It's their Helo Advisory freq. In fact, it's on our friend's list too as...
APP AM NW ALERT/HELO ADVISORY

The 236.425 and 339.675 freqs I've mentioned before that I had U/I activity on them and I've never been able to ID them. Isn't that 236.425 involved with Willow Grove somehow? Perhaps the A-10s?

That 249.1 freq sounds interesting as an approach/departure freq. I wonder where? I'll have to plug that one in.

Ron, I finally logged a SCORE aircraft today. It's coming up in the next SBS log chunk at 1336/1339.

Tin,

Thanks for checking those. I've put the unid's in my scanner as well.

 

[mdmonitor]

Score 12

Tin,

Your wrote--- Ron, I finally logged a SCORE aircraft today. It's coming up in the next SBS log chunk at 1336/1339

He's used that callsign before---interesting though that there was no BuNo with that.

Another UHF unid freq---238.8---sounded like a ARTCC or A/D--FlightCheck 81 working unid controller