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[ka3jjz]

TinEar, do you receive data squawks on Langley's 381.1? I do over here, on 2 different scanners and antennas. It may well be a case of intermod, but on 2 different scanners, it's less likely, tho still very possible. Or it could be a new control channel, as it's just inside the 380 mhz LMR band.

73s and thanx..Mike

[edit] some chit chat going on on 303.0 - last IDed as the 108th ARW at McGuire; there still may be some NJ boys here

 

[Mark]

Jack wrote 18:48- 145.0 active NEW FREQ!!! A/A with controller?? Wardog & Flyer are on this freq.

Thanks Jack,have never heard Willow Grove A-10's use that one.Someone else sent me a post about that also.
Will add that one now...
I wonder after BRAC alignment how long WG will continue flying A-10's?
Hopefully Maryland ANG will get some of these pilots and planes.Some topnotch A-10 guys up there.

Mark

 

[JackTV]

Tin, It sounds like "Bugsy" to me.

Jack

 

[TinEar]

Not sure what you mean by "data squawks" Mike. I haven't heard anything on that Langley freq in ages. All around it are occasional transmissions from the 380 mHz trunked systems at Ft. Meade, NSA, etc. I'd be surprised if Langley still uses that freq for a/a or a/g transmissions.

Forgot to mention...during the traffic by the PA-ANG on 143.25 earlier this evening, they referenced freq 141.8. I didn't have that listed for them previously but don't know if it's new or not.

Russ: Agree that it's kind of odd but we've had them operating throughout that band all the way to 149 mHz. I keep one radio with an extended search band from 138-149 for just that reason. Every once in awhile I get a hit in the extended portion above 144.

2114: Have a U/I transport going into Shaw on Command Post freq «381.3». He'll arrive in 20 minutes, is A-1....has 4 pallets, 7 pieces of rolling stock, and 13 pax to offload. He also needs 20K pounds of fuel and crew transportation for 2 crew members. (That seems like a very big aircraft to have only two crew members.)
2117: DC 22 (KC-135 tanker, 756th ARS Andrews AFB MD) with LIBERATOR on squadron freq «351.2» He's A-1, will be on the deck in 45 minutes and has 33,000 pounds of fuel on board. He's doing some training and when completed will land. He mentions the ramp freeze in effect and wonders how long it will last.
NOTE: And that reminds me of something I've been wondering. Why don't the KC-135s from the 756th ever participate in the CAP as a support tanker? They bring KC-135s from all over the country for that operation but never the aircraft right in their back yard. It would sure be cheaper and easier...and much faster to get a replacement up during fuel shortage situations like we've seen the past two weekends. Is there some rule that those tankers have to be from the ANG and not the regular AF?

2130: Rain moving into the area...guess we're done for the night. A wind advisory follow up just issued for winds up to 45 mph starting in the morning so that might kill MilAir activity for tomorrow too.

 

[russ29643]

145.0

Just wondering about this new active frequency. 145mHz is in the 2 meter ham band (144-148) Looks like this would cause problems for both users, but I guess the hams just will have to deal with it.

russ
n4rwe

 

[n3bxv]

Here's one of the expected pics of the Raptor refueling during the CAP...


http://www2.afrc.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123014692

NOTE: And that reminds me of something I've been wondering. Why don't the KC-135s from the 756th ever participate in the CAP as a support tanker? They bring KC-135s from all over the country for that operation but never the aircraft right in their back yard. It would sure be cheaper and easier...and much faster to get a replacement up during fuel shortage situations like we've seen the past two weekends. Is there some rule that those tankers have to be from the ANG and not the regular AF?.

I would guess, based on this article, that the 756ARS has been occupied with another Mission.
BTW the tankers that refueled the Raptors were both AFRC units like the 756th

 

[w9ofa]

The picture link above has the following caption:

<quote>
An F-22A Raptor refuels from a KC-135R Stratotanker Jan. 21. This refueling was part of the Raptor's first operational mission.</quote>

Congratulations TinEar! You logged the first operational mission of the F-22, which just happened to be a flight for operation Noble Eagle.

 

[w9ofa]

Looking at the other picture, you can see the 'trap door' for the refueling port on the F-22. Probably to reduce radar signature, I imagine. Definately an interesting plane.

 

[TinEar]

w9ofa: That is one beautiful airplane.

Chuck: Thanks. I could smell Incirlik while reading that story about the 756th. As soon as the aircraft starts descending anywhere in Turkey, that smell overwhelms you. It's what I remember most of all about that country - whether it was Incirlik, Ankara, Istanbul or any of the remote towns across Turkey - the place stinks. But that was another lifetime.

 

[carbineone]

1024 Rocco 62 with Mcguire departure 363.8
1028 Opec34 with mcguire approach 124.15
1031 Team 31 with Rocco 62 on 303.0 asking to switch to ar prime 276.5 they switch to prime and mention 40 miles out to hampton and discuss meet up time.
1046 Topcat3 with Mcguire tower on takeoff 118.65
1106 Hustler458 seld id as CH53 working willow grove on 340.2
1224 Gold 91 with Mcguire C.P. for a radio check 319.4
1256 Unid aircraft on 252.8 ask ready to go secure then goes secure on 252.8
1258 Unid switched back normal said he is busy and will call him on the ground 252.8
1310 Navy SD103 airborne for test at Lakehurst NAS 360.2 (Local paper had article about this F-18 testing landing gear)

TinEar Risky and Slug flight is very loud here Darkstar is readable but weak on 292.3

 

[TinEar]

Dave (DPD1), I think I'm going to give that MilTenna Omni (combined VHF/UHF) a try once the weather gets a bit warmer here. It looks interesting and might be a good addition.

Alan
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1015: An ANGRY (F-16 DC-ANG) flight of three landed at Andrews upon completion of their mission. They had been working tac «139.15» for the previous 45 minutes or so.
Not much else happening this morning. The winds are not quite as bad as earlier advertised. At BWI, we have gusts up to 34 mph and partly sunny skies after some rain and snow showers earlier. Transports are working the three AF bases in and out but no fighters at the moment. There were also a couple of Navy TESTER fighters working in the Pax River area during the same time the ANGRY flight was up but they've also gone home.

1120: Had an ASCOT 6814 Heavy landing at Dover using Command Post freq «349.4» British accent.

At noon, it's 40 degrees at BWI with winds at 20 mph, gusting to 40 mph. Not condusive to fighter aircraft flying.

I no sooner said that about fighters when up came a DARKSTAR aircraft (E3B Tinker AFB) working with GIANT KILLER on «238.1» He said (between 1204 and 1211 - it took that long for GK to understand it all) he'll be controlling air combat maneuvers in W-386 from 1735-1835Z. Fighters will be from the 71st Fighter Squadron, 1st Fighter Wing at Langley and will be using callsigns RISKY, SLUG and TOTEM. He also mentioned another flight from Langley using RAPID 1 thru 6. All except for the SLUG callsign are on my Langley list. (And now SLUG is added)
AT 1215 he mentions seeing the TOTEM flight on radar. «238.1»
1219: Somebody - I think the TOTEM flight - enters GK's area on «249.8»
1221: TOTEM 85 checking into GK's area on «249.8» at FL230.
1223: DARKSTAR tells GK that both RISKY and SLUG flights will work 292.3 and TOTEM will work 373.1 «238.1»
1225: the SLUG flight checks into GK's area on «249.8»
1226: TOTEM 85 reports he's established and wants to switch to tactical. «249.8»
1226: Have U/I fighter activity on tac freq «138.0» which are probably F-16s of the ND-ANG Fargo...callsign should be SPIDER if so.
1229: SLUG 1 reports to GK that his flight of two aircraft are established and changing to 292.3 «249.8»
I forgot to enter that DARKSTAR, at the beginning of his transmission at 1204, said he was off of Oceana at FL360, Mode 3 6611 and then a minute later said Oceana was at 10 degrees, 33 miles and that he was heading south.
1241: BATON 53 (EC-130, 193rd Special Operations Group, PA-ANG Harrisburg) with Baton Ops on Command Post freq «395.1»
1253: DARKSTAR reports to Giant Killer that all of his players are clear of the test track «238.1»

(Reply to msg below): Dan, I don't remember hearing DC 22 after that transmission you quoted so he could have gone to Dover although he didn't seem concerned when I heard him about either the ramp freeze or the fuel remainers. He couldn't do any touch-and-goes during the ramp freeze though so maybe he went to Dover to get that part of his training in.

Continued below....

 

[Dank]

2117: DC 22 (KC-135 tanker, 756th ARS Andrews AFB MD) with LIBERATOR on squadron freq «351.2» He's A-1, will be on the deck in 45 minutes and has 33,000 pounds of fuel on board. He's doing some training and when completed will land. He mentions the ramp freeze in effect and wonders how long it will last.


Did DC 22,land at Andrew's or did he divert to Dover? I heard some comms just after this and he expresed concerns about the ramp freeze, weather conditions (high winds) and fuel supply. I didn't monitor long enough to hear when the ramp freeze ended.

 

[TinEar]

1300: A pair of F-16s from the NJ-ANG active on tac freq «138.875» They mention contacting WARHAWK which is probably a ground controller at Pax River. Callsign is BICEP.
1302: BICEP pair with ZDC-Casino on «285.4» and handed off to ZDC-Cape Charles on «256.8» where they say they'll enter area R-4006. At 1305, they say they are switching over to Pax Advisory.
1305: F-16s from the DC-ANG at Andrews are airborne and using tac freq «139.15» Callsign WILD.
1307: The WILD flight is in air combat maneuvers. «139.15»
1310: DARKSTAR has been reporting to GK as he sends a couple of fighters home at a time. Now he has two TOTEM and two SLUG aircraft doing something and reports when they're done, he's finished with W-386. «238.1»
1311: Have both «138.0» and «138.3» fighter tac freqs active.
1312: More F-16s from the NJ-ANG working «138.1» (they turn out to be the same BICEP flight)
1314: WILD flight with ZNY-Philipsburg on «306.2»
1315: BICEP flight trying to contact WARHAWK on both «138.1/138.3» and finally make contact on the «138.3» freq. They are exceptionally weak for being in the R-4006 area which indicates they must be very low.
1317: BICEP flight indicating they have 90 minute playtime to WARHAWK. «138.3»
1332: Have a FLYER 11 flight (A-10 PA-ANG Willow Grove) working with Pax River Approach on «305.2» They are at FL160 and want to know where the DEVIL flight (F-16 NJ-ANG) is.
1333: FLYER 11 flight checking in with Pax River on «264.55» at FL160...climbing to 17,000 and will be in restricted area for the next 35 minutes. They ID as a slight of two A-10s that will be working with the DEVIL F-16 flight. FLYER reports one of his aircraft has a bad Mode 3 so only one of them will be squawking.
1336: BICEP flight talking to WHITE LIGHTNING on «138.3» wanting confirmation that no other aircraft are below them.
1339: U/I aircraft in the Andrews pattern on «119.3» says he's getting wind shear warnings at the moment. He adds that cross winds are above his 25 knot limit.
1343: RISKY, flight of 3 (1st FW Langley), into GK's area using «249.8»
1344: Have a U/I Evac flight with Andrews on «141.55» saying the winds are too strong for him to land there and he's going over to Dulles.
1344: BICEP 22 with Pax River on «264.55» reports he's meeting up with STEEL 61 (KC-135 Pittsburgh) for refueling. Switching to boom freq (and I'm searching for it)
1349: BICEP mentions being at the intersection of Dolphin and Redskins. «138.3» (This while in the R-4006 Pax River Range area.)
1351: STEEL/BICEP/DEVIL flights refueling on boom freq «288.0» while in the Pax River area.
1354: Have UGLY 1 flight (A-10 PA-ANG Willow Grove) with ZNY-Flint Hill on «278.2» and then with ZNY-North Mountain on «338.3» heading for the Duke MOA.
1358: WILD flight back in listening range on «139.15»
1358: Have DEVIL 11 flight, while refueling on «288.0» asking someone to pass to the WARHAWK controller his planned munitions use for the upcoming mission. He wants that passed on to WARHAWK on primary freq 288.7 or backup 138.05. (Interesting)

Log continued below....

(Response to msg below) Dave, SCARY is also DC-ANG and my first peek would be at 127.275 or 143.15 for their tac freq. While I was listening to the WILD flight before they got out of range, one aircraft was playing the DARKSTAR role. So, this could be two WILDS and one SCARY playing that role. The DC fighters have been doing a lot of that lately - one main callsign group and then one plane with a different callsign playing controller. If that's what they're doing, they'll all be on the same freq. And...if it's dorky to love this stuff, then just call me a dork too.

Mike: I forgot to mention this earlier...when you hear something like "Redskins" from fighters working in R-4006 at the Pax River Range, you're hearing what appears to be grid names at the range, nothing to do with the stadium. Today the NJ guys are using Redskins and Dolphins for grids.

Dave: UGLY flight heading your way to the Duke MOA.

 

[dparana]

Sounds like we have Wild and Scary flights in the Duke MOA at this moment on 301.60. Anyone know who the Scary flight may be and a TAC Freq to try?

1323: Sounds like one of the aircraft is acting as the Darkstar giving target coordinates. Sounds like we'll be having some ACM up in my neck of the woods.

The dang radio station up the street is causing too much bleed over to hear any TAC freqs, I'll just listen on 301.60. It is the Wild flight doing the intercepts.

Sounds like Steel 1, might be coming in to refuel these guys when they're done.

Not to sound like a dork, but I love this stuff!

13:50 Wild 2 Calls Bingo. They all knock it off. Scary says to push "Victor 6", unfortunately the radio station prevents me from hearing this. I put in 139.15 and just heard country music.....sounds like they'll be heading back down South. Didn't hear anymore to suggest they were going to refuel. Although the Duke is set to be active again from 14:00 to 14:45. Just read your above post, lets see what the Uglies do.
Ugly 1 is 80-0184 and Ugly 2 is 81-0981, They are getting gas from Steel 71 on 301.60. Sounds like they will be heading down to the Bollen Range when they've finished.
14:19 Uglies are done and heading south. They "Push 18" and talk to Cleveland Center on 353.85, request IFR to Ravine and then I believe they are going to Bollen.
14:23 Uglies switch to 338.30 and report to NY Center, they are at 15,000.


Dave

 

[carbineone]

1321 Unid on 143.750
1338 Navy sd103 also using Saltdog callsign still in pattern at Lakehurst NAS 360.2
1446 Two U/I chatting on 141.675
1452 Flyer flight id as chatting on 141.675 **Correction it is the Crete flight at Warren grove
1505 Crete flight at Warren grove range 283.1
1537 Crete flight leaving Warren grove
1543 Crete with Ny approach at 3500 ft 269.0
TinEar any idea who these Crete guys are ?

 

[TinEar]

1401: STEEL 61 tanker (KC-135, PA-ANG Pittsburgh) calling WARHAWK (Pax River Range controller) on «138.05» Don't think he's getting a reply. (I've also got a radio parked on 288.7 but hear nothing on that primary freq.)
1404: WILD 1 reporting mission results to SOF on «139.9» It is a flight of two WILDs and one SCARY. They all switch to V-6 on «139.15» to continue the trip home to Andrews. They report being 69 miles out.
1412: WILD 1 reporting to Reagan TRACON that he's from Baltimore to Andrews at 6,000 heading for runway 1R. «269.0» He's asking to descend to 4,000 and is approved. Cleared to 2,000 at 1414...says he's MARSA with SCARY and has the field in sight.
1415: Report from private plane that landings at Martin State are prohibited by winds. «121.8»
1418: WILD/SCARY flight talking about winds while landing are outside limits...one of them mentions 290/28 with gusts to 30-something. On Tower freq «349.0» They are arguing about whether it's safe or not...changing to SOF to talk about it and asking if those winds are within limits. «139.9» They say they still have a little gas time left so they can think about it for a bit. Flight leader goes back to Tower on «349.0» to ask for wind reading again. Back on SOF freq...flight leader says "We're going to land." And that puts an end to the argument. Back over to Tower freq they go and report on initial...they stayed at 2,000 feet through all the back and forth bickering about safety.
1425: BICEP/DEVIL flights still in the Pax River area on «138.3» DEVIL was supposed to be MARSA with the FLYER A-10s but I haven't heard FLYER in a long time.
1426: The WILD/SCARY flight is on the deck. «349.0»
1430: FLYER 11 flight with ZNY-Elk Mountain (Sector 51, Lake Henry) on «363.2» where they check in at 11,000.
NOTE: As soon as I get a chance, I'm going to change all the New York Center names to reflect their Sector names rather than area names so if all the ZNY freqs suddenly look different, that will be the reason. I did that with the Washington Center names some time ago.
1439: RISKY 91 flight (1st FW Langley) into GK's area working air space H and will stay east of the test track. «238.1»

NOTE: Something else to confuse me...we've had a SKATER 07 suddenly show up in the CAP several times in the past as the tanker support aircraft. I've always wondered why there would be a SKATER callsign when everyone else was using the TANKER callsign. Additionally, using the standard callsign list, we've always IDed him as being a KC-135R from the ME-ANG Bangor based on the SKATER call. Well...on his last mission, his flight plan shows him flying out of McGuire AFB NJ and going right back there after finishing his four hour shift in the CAP. So, I don't know if he was staging out of McGuire or whether that callsign belongs there.

1453: NJ F-16s still flying...they just went from «138.3» to V-17 on «138.875» and are lining up another attack and mention RTBing soon. They mention the maneuver is going to require them to be at speeds over 500 knots at low altitude.
1454: SPEEDO 81 (1st FW Langley) into GK's area using «238.1» will be in Kilo and wants to know if the test track is active.
1455: CRATE 91 flight (1st FW Langley) into GK's area...IDs as one F-15 into area W-72B for the next 15 minutes at FL230. He wants airspace India. «238.1»
1458: BICEP flight with Devil Ops SOF on «138.125» says the mission was awesome and everything went as fragged. Mentions deconflicting with F-16s and A-10s and it all worked great. He also wants maintenance to check this freq because it sounds like a live mic on it. They say they are 10 minutes from home.

1501: BICEP flight with ZDC-Casino on «285.4» and then with Atlantic City Approach on «327.125» where he mentions he's going to spiral down right where he is.
1501: The «138.3» flight is also active and it should be the DEVIL flight although it could be FLYER aircraft also since both the NJ and PA-ANG use that freq. I think the FLYERs have already gone home though.
1512: Hearing fighter activity on «141.675» (per carbineone's msg) It's about the same signal strength as the 138.3 activity - too weak to copy.
1515: A-10s from the MD-ANG at Martin State active on «142.3»
1518: WARDOG 1 (A-10 Martin State) reports 10 out, Code 1 to Raven Ops on «347.2» and Ma Raven asks for a PIREP when able.
1522: AXEMAN 1 (A-10 Martin State) reports 10 out, Code 1 to Raven Ops on «347.2» and Ma Raven asks for a PIREP for Patuxent (which tells us where he was) and he gives it to her...scattered cloud decks.
1525: Have an aircraft with Andrews Tower «118.4» saying the cross winds right now aren't bad.
At BWI at the same time, winds are at 26mph with gusts to 39.
1528: RAVEN 1 (A-10 Martin State) reports 10 out, Code 1 «347.2» Ma Raven repeats this info.
1534: RAVEN 1, flight of two A-10s, landing with Tower on «297.2»
1536: Sounds like a couple of Navy fighters with Pax River on «363.35» One of them mentions a warning light for his right rudder. He's asking the other for suggestions.
1540: After discussing it for a bit, they declare a "non-emergency, emergency" (there are a couple of aircraft now with the problem plane) «363.35»
1554: REACH 544 arriving from overseas and landing at Dover with CP on «349.4»

1600: And that's the end of my work day and so this is the END OF REPORT

carbineone: The CRETE callsign is used by A-10s of the CT-ANG at Bradley.

Just saw a news release from Verizon on the newswire that mentions parts of Columbia and Ellicott City are now on line with the new FiOS fiber system for internet at download speeds of 5, 15 and 30 mbps and upload at 5 mbps on the highest speed line (upload 2 mbps on the two lower priced services). The three speeds are priced at $34.95, $44.95 and $179.95 if you have phone service with Verizon, slightly higher if you don't. It also mentions that Howard County will have the new TV service over FiOS starting at the end of April. C'mon Anne Arundel County...where are you?

 

[TinEar]

Back on with the radios and hear....

1850: DEVIL 11 flight (F-16 NJ-ANG Atlantic City) with WHITE LIGHTNING on the Pax River Range using tac freq «138.3» Fight of two.
1851: BICEP 21 flight (F-16 NJ-ANG Atlantic City) with Pax River BayWatch on «264.55» Flight of two.
During this exercise at the Pax River Range, The DEVIL flight also worked with A-10s. They mentioned RAVENs several times and there was also a WARDOG working the 138.3 with them. RAVEN and WARDOG of course are Martin State A-10 callsigns. The BICEP and RAVEN callsigns seem to be using Pax River's 264.55 more than any other freq. WHITE LIGHTNING is the callsign for a ground based Forward Area Controller.

1925: RAVEN, flight of two A-10s is heading for home...with Raven Ops on «347.2» both Code 1.
1930: RAVENs landing at Martin State with Tower on «297.2»
1930: This DEVIL activity at the Pax River Range is about the most interesting I've ever heard as they work with a ground force. «138.3» Unfortunately, they are "Winchester" and have to RTB as of 0031Z.
1933: DEVIL with BayWatch announcing their RTB to Atlantic City at 17,000 feet. Direct Waterloo, direct Sea Isle, direct Atlantic City. «264.55» and they change to V-15 for tac «138.425»
1935: BICEP 21/22 also clearing out of BayWatch at 15,000 to head for Atlantic City. «264.55»
1935: DEVIL 11 with ZDC-Casino on «285.4» at 17,000 feet heading for ACY.
1936: DEVIL to V-11 on «138.05» (For Wiki Chuck)
1938: BICEP 21/22 to ZDC-Casino on «285.4» at 17,000 as they head for home.
1940: Have some weak fighter activity on both «139.625» and «139.9» I don't think the 139.9 is DC-ANG. I have a very high noise level across the bands tonight so weak activity sort of gets lost in the hash.
1941: BICEP to SOF on «261.0» No reply
1941: DEVIL 11 flight with Atlantic City Approach on «327.125» 28 miles south of the field.
1942: BICEP flight using «138.875» for tac on the way home.
1944: BICEP leaving 17 for 11,000 «285.4»...leaving 11 for 8,000 at 1945.

(Ref below msg) Agree with FUZZY on 238.9. At IP 36 after the hour.

 

[freqhopping]

1906 -Thought I had BUGSY-32 on 238.9. But now 1914 it sounds more like FUZZY.
On a southerly heading, 150 miles out. Will be west to east for the IP. I believe he was talking to OPEC.

FUZZY is a callsign for a NY ANG KC135


2130 -BOBCAT-81 on 257.2 at 15k. Switched to 284.7, 17k for 23k direct Montebello.

 

[n3bxv]

DEVIL to V-11 on «138.05» (For Wiki Chuck)

Done! NJ ANG 177th Fighter Wing Wiki updated.

Just saw a news release from Verizon on the newswire that mentions parts of Columbia and Ellicott City are now on line with the new FiOS fiber system for internet at download speeds of 5, 15 and 30 mbps and upload at 5 mbps on the highest speed line (upload 2 mbps on the two lower priced services). The three speeds are priced at $34.95, $44.95 and $179.95 if you have phone service with Verizon, slightly higher if you don't. It also mentions that Howard County will have the new TV service over FiOS starting at the end of April. C'mon Anne Arundel County...where are you?

It's already in Anne Arundel County! My boss has it in Millersville and I've seen the fiber going into the Ground in Severn and Odenton, so it shouldn't be long.
At $44.95 for 15 mbps, I'll put a Scanner online too!
Here's the Verizon contstruction schedule for Maryland, maybe Fiber is coming to you soon -- http://www22.verizon.com/about/community/md/broadband/fttp_montgomery.html

 

[TinEar]

It doesn't count Chuck until Anne Arundel County has it at MY house. I currently use Verizon business DSL and the higher speeds at less money would be nice but I'm actually more interested in the FiOS television options than I am with internet speed. As far as I know, Howard County is the only one that has an agreement with Verizon for a cable type service - so far. I want 50 channels of HDTV.

0945: DRAGO 51 (Memorial flyover callsign) climbing out of Andrews up to 9,000 with Reagan TRACON on «279.575»
0947: DRAGO 51 level at 9,000 «279.575»
0952: DRAGO 51 turning toward PALEO (out to the east of Andrews) and climbing to 17,000. «279.575»
0954: DRAGO 51 up to 19,000 and direct Swann...pilot wants Swann spelled out because it's not on his flight plan. «279.575»
0954: DRAGO 51 to ZDC-Swann on «134.5» and climbing to 23,000
0956: DRAGO 51 with LIBERATOR on «351.2» talking about hanging around at the air refueling point as long as he can before returning. (This transmission on the 756th ARS freq sure makes DRAGO 51 look like a tanker.)
0957: DRAGO 51 sent to BROSS (out east of BWI) and then to J-42 (jet route) by Washington Center «134.5»
0958: BULLY 1 (F-16 DC-ANG Andrews AFB MD) up from Andrews with Reagan TRACON on «348.725» and then switches to BWI TRACON on «317.425» at 11,000

1002: BULLY 1 flight with ZDC-Swann on «360.7» climbing out to 17,000.
1007: BULLY flight on tac «127.275»
1008: DRAGO 51 with McGuire Command Post on «319.4» He mentions he'll be refueling with OPEC 43 (KC-10A McGuire AFB NJ) and wants to know if it's still set to go at 45 minutes after the hour. He says he's about to overfly McGuire and will be standing by.
1010: BULLY flight sounds like a flight of two per «127.275» traffic.
1014: DRAGO 51, while with McGuire Command Post on «319.4» says primary refueling freq will be 295.8
1015: BULLY 1 flight with Washington Center on «362.3» cancels IFR and says they are out of 17,000. (I don't have this freq listed for Washington Center. I picked it up from their traffic when they mentioned switching to it.) The flight switches back to tac on «127.275»
LATE ADD: I just went back to my paperwork and I do have the 362.3 freq listed and just completely overlooked adding it to my lineup. That's the Washington Center freq in the Woodstown Sector out of Cedar Lake. (Sector 19, Area 8)
1018: DRAGO 51 on refueling freq «295.8» says he's going to push it up and try to be at the refueling IP at 1540 rather than 1545.
1020: DRAGO 51 says he's direct Albany and will be there at 1540Z and has altitude block 24-26,000 assigned and will be at 25,000. Says he's going direct to the IP after Albany.
1030: Just heard a brief transmission from the BULLY flight on tac «127.275» which was the first since 1015. No idea where they are or what they're doing.
1039: Bollen Range seems to be active on «237.2»
1041: Also have the Warren Grove Range active on «283.1» It's the BULLY flight that's working that range. Now we know where they went. Their traffic on tac «127.275» is extremely weak but they are perfectly readable on the «283.1» freq.
1047: TESTER 03 with Pax River working «291.15» Might also be a TESTER 02 with him.
1050: The flight at the Bollen Range is ANGRY 1 (F-16 DC-ANG Andrews) working with range controller BALKY. It's a flight of at least two aircraft. «237.2» I sure missed this flight out of Andrews because I was parked on the BULLY and DRAGO and TESTER and Waren Grove freqs and wasn't searching the tac band.
1055: TESTER 08 with BayWatch on «270.8» I think this is the flight that was with TESTER 03 on 291.15 rather than 02.
1056: MAPLE 2 (F-16 VT-ANG Burlington) with ZDC-Potomac on «381.5» at FL280
1057: BULLY flight once again loud and clear on tac «127.275»
1057: ANGRY flight working tac «139.15» and I think they are leaving the Bollen Range at this time.
1059: BULLY flight with Atlantic City Approach on «327.125»

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Correct Dan about our conversation of a couple of months ago. But it's the cable type TV service I want. I already have DirecTV which is very poor (limited) with the number of HDTV channels it carries and part of that is just the early state of the industry. The Howard County type TV service opens up a whole world of TV with almost unlimited possibilities. Of course, it depends on what Verizon decides to carry on its service that will be important.