TinEar
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Chuck, I caught him asking if there's any damage to the nose. Did you hear what he hit or what happened?
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n3bxv
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Nope, didn't catch it, But I would guess a bird strike....
freqhopping
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Have SPAR-28 and what sounds like JDOC (Joint Defense Operations Center?)calling back and forth on 260.9 and 139.15.
I guess SPAR would be a SAM VIP flight.
SPAR was descending from 8 to 6k.
I guess SPAR would be a SAM VIP flight.
SPAR was descending from 8 to 6k.
Wish I had a milair scanner with me at 1600 today when I noticed 3 worthogs flying over Abingdon/Edgewood area.
n3bxv
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1829<282.275>Warthog/Wardog-1 with Potomac TRACON, Also Checks in with Raven Ops<347.2>and gives departure time
1830 Cancels IFR with Potomac and requests flight following. Freq change to <317.425> for flight following, enroute Warren Grove. Single A-10.
1835 Wardog freq change to ?? 227.??
1838<282.275> Raven-1 with Potomac TRACON Direct Swann, then Cancels IFR, etc
1901<283.1> Wardog and Raven with Iron Cross (Warren Grove Range)
1942<285.4> Wardog-1 with ZDC-Casino on the way home.....
1944 <282.275> Axeman-2 with Potomac TRACON, Potomac asks for change to VHF due to audio quality, passed to 291.625, Axeman pushes "Seven" (Wiki updated)
1948 Axeman-2 passed to Harrisburg Approach <273.525> also checks out with Raven Ops on <143.8> (Never heard Axeman with Harrisburg)
1950 Raven-1 checks inbound with ops on <347.2>
1953 <317.425><290.475>Wardog-1 with Potomac TRACON , field in sight, Raven flight 5 miles in trail
1955 <297.2> Wardog and Raven with Martin State Tower...
1958<290.475> Axeman-2 with Potomac TRACON, depart Martin state direct (sounds like Raybeen/Rayveen (Doh! That's Ravine, the Navaid immediately adjacent to Bollen Range/R-5802). Pushes 7 back to 291.625, Potomac Tracon, Then Harrisburg, <273.525> This is confusing as he is using the same callsigne as the first guy!
2003<273.525> Axeman-2 with Harrisburg, Looks like he's going to Bollen Range
2102 Axeman-1 flight returns <291.625>Potomac Approach Glad they got their callsign all straightened out
2104 Axman flight with Martin State Tower <297.2>for landing . A/A <142.3>
and with that, good nite....
1830 Cancels IFR with Potomac and requests flight following. Freq change to <317.425> for flight following, enroute Warren Grove. Single A-10.
1835 Wardog freq change to ?? 227.??
1838<282.275> Raven-1 with Potomac TRACON Direct Swann, then Cancels IFR, etc
1901<283.1> Wardog and Raven with Iron Cross (Warren Grove Range)
1942<285.4> Wardog-1 with ZDC-Casino on the way home.....
1944 <282.275> Axeman-2 with Potomac TRACON, Potomac asks for change to VHF due to audio quality, passed to 291.625, Axeman pushes "Seven" (Wiki updated)
1948 Axeman-2 passed to Harrisburg Approach <273.525> also checks out with Raven Ops on <143.8> (Never heard Axeman with Harrisburg)
1950 Raven-1 checks inbound with ops on <347.2>
1953 <317.425><290.475>Wardog-1 with Potomac TRACON , field in sight, Raven flight 5 miles in trail
1955 <297.2> Wardog and Raven with Martin State Tower...
1958<290.475> Axeman-2 with Potomac TRACON, depart Martin state direct (sounds like Raybeen/Rayveen (Doh! That's Ravine, the Navaid immediately adjacent to Bollen Range/R-5802). Pushes 7 back to 291.625, Potomac Tracon, Then Harrisburg, <273.525> This is confusing as he is using the same callsigne as the first guy!
2003<273.525> Axeman-2 with Harrisburg, Looks like he's going to Bollen Range
2102 Axeman-1 flight returns <291.625>Potomac Approach Glad they got their callsign all straightened out
2104 Axman flight with Martin State Tower <297.2>for landing . A/A <142.3>
and with that, good nite....
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CACTI 12 Tanker with Andrews metro 344.600 @2310z req wx for KWRB-Warner Robbins at 0040z
Along with this heard some A/A between couple fighters 138.750.Not sure if related.
GUARD COPTER 1669 CH-47 with Phillips Tower 126.150 landing.
Along with this heard some A/A between couple fighters 138.750.Not sure if related.
GUARD COPTER 1669 CH-47 with Phillips Tower 126.150 landing.
I stand corrected,138.750 being used by CADE 1+2 Willow Grove A-10's.
Probably over range somewhere.237.200 active also.
Probably over range somewhere.237.200 active also.
TinEar
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Good catch on that 138.75 Mark. I've been hearing it recently and never seem to catch them using a callsign. I'll plug it into a PA-ANG slot. CACTI is also a good one. Don't hear that one much around here unless you catch the flight they accompany coming across the pond.
Chuck, that IRON CROSS sure gets around. That was one of the JTAC callsigns used during the exercise at Pax.
1937: Have fighter tac freq «140.2» active. No callsigns heard yet.
Chuck, that IRON CROSS sure gets around. That was one of the JTAC callsigns used during the exercise at Pax.
1937: Have fighter tac freq «140.2» active. No callsigns heard yet.
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ka3jjz
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Since we have several new faces now, I thought it might pay to review the unidentifieds that TinEar and others have reported over the last 30-45 days or so. Anyone that can tie these freqs to a specific user, please speak up!
140.20000
140.72500
141.30000
141.32500
141.85000
142.20000
142.75000
142.95000
143.02500
286.00000
304.22500
339.60000 thought to be Navy Refueling?
354.15000
All of these are in AM mode, of course. 73s Mike
140.20000
140.72500
141.30000
141.32500
141.85000
142.20000
142.75000
142.95000
143.02500
286.00000
304.22500
339.60000 thought to be Navy Refueling?
354.15000
All of these are in AM mode, of course. 73s Mike
TinEar
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Most on that list Mike are simply fighter tac freqs and no telling from where. The 339.6 is definitely Naval refueling but the unit is unknown. We've had Marine F/A-18s with the tankers.
The 354.15 of course is the new ZDC-Kenton freq.
The most interesting on that list to me is the 142.75 freq. I keep running into it with what sounds like transports. It's the same type activity found on the 134.1/141.55 and the other Andrews/Dover/McGuire Command Post freqs. I just can't seem to get on the freq in time to hear the callsigns used.
The 354.15 of course is the new ZDC-Kenton freq.
The most interesting on that list to me is the 142.75 freq. I keep running into it with what sounds like transports. It's the same type activity found on the 134.1/141.55 and the other Andrews/Dover/McGuire Command Post freqs. I just can't seem to get on the freq in time to hear the callsigns used.
n3bxv
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339.6 is listed on a couple of webpages as being the control freq for restricted area R-5306A, Near Cherry Point
n3bxv
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1830-1900 Wardog and Raven Flight, to Warren Grove Range, with Potomac TRACON and ZDC freqs....
(Sorry, only half listening)
1900 Axeman-1 Departing Martin State with Potomac
Axeman-1 also enroute to Warren Grove...
A/A 142.3...
1924, Alan that Piaggo is landing 33R at BWI.......Duck!
2150, Raven flight back to MArtin State...... TRACON then Tower..
(Sorry, only half listening)
1900 Axeman-1 Departing Martin State with Potomac
Axeman-1 also enroute to Warren Grove...
A/A 142.3...
1924, Alan that Piaggo is landing 33R at BWI.......Duck!
2150, Raven flight back to MArtin State...... TRACON then Tower..
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freqhopping
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On Saturday night I heard EVAC-33116 calling Andrews. They were diverting there for a medical emergency and wanted the phone number for Walter Reed. I believe this may have been the flight carrying a critically burned local soldier/former Marine back from Germay/Iraq to Texas.
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=35087
http://www.wusatv9.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=46850
RIP Devildog
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=35087
http://www.wusatv9.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=46850
RIP Devildog
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TinEar said:
If it doesn't have the normal AF sound, VMGR-452 might be it. The VMGR out here in CA has dedicated SQ tacs that they keep and use routinely while working over the water.
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My logging function has been turned off for the past couple of days due to illness but had to comment on today's activity since it was one of the busiest fighter days in memory.
DC-ANG: It started in the 1000 hour with a scramble of two F-16s using callsigns BRAVE 61 and 62. They worked HUNTRESS on 139.7 and all the normal TRACON/Andrews freqs while going out and returning. Late in the same hour there was an ANGRY flight that went to Bollen Range working with BALKY. Later there was a flight of four F-16s, callsign ANGRY, that went to the Dare County Range in NC. They mentioned going to restricted area R-5314 which is Dare.
NJ-ANG: A DEVIL F-16 flight heard through the ZDC area and then with ZNY-Modena saying they were turning west and going to VR-1757. That's a low level fighter route and just as they hit it, they contacted a Flight Service Station on 255.4. They've been doing that often in recent days. Several minutes later they were all over the ZNY freqs going back to Atlantic City. Later there was a BICEP flight of F-16s heard on the ZDC/ZNY freqs.
Langley: There was an exercise in in the southern part of Giant Killier's area W-386 that involved F-22A aircraft along with an E3C aircraft - DARKSTAR PAPA. One callsign was new to me - BANK 71 - and the rest were just too weak to hear. They must have been low. The only reason I suspect that flight was from Langley was that they were using the Langley 233.525 tac freq. A MAI TAI flight also used that freq in another F-22A group.
The reason it got so busy today was that there were just constant flights from out of area fighters coming through the area. There were MAPLE 34 and MAPLE 23 flights of multiple F-16 aircraft each from the VT-ANG at Burlington. There was a BASS flight of A-10s from the CT-ANG at Bradley and a TOMCEK flight of two A-10s (I don't remember if that callsign is the CT-ANG or MA-ANG...but it's one of those two states.) The MAPLE 34 flight was first using tac 139.9 as they chatted their way through the area and were apparently heard by someone at the DC-ANG who also use that as a SOF freq. There followed a long conversation between someone on the ground at Andrews and one of these MAPLE pilots who had common friends. They took the hint after that and changed their tac to 143.825 where one of them later mentioned wishing he had a working targeting pod so he could see those F-22s down below. Between those four flights coming through, I believe I counted 8 tac freqs in use for their chat in the 138-144 range. Oh, and one of the MAPLE pairs mentioned changing to "F-2 on the back radio" which was a reference to using an FM low-band channel. There was also a COLT 01 flight on the ZDC freqs heading south. I heard the flight as far as ZDC New Bern NC before losing it.
There was also a JOSA 382 calling Langley CP on 251.25. The only reason I mention that flight is that he mentioned getting into Langley once "the exercise there has ended" which kind of puts a handle on what was going on with the F-22As and DARKSTAR.
Also had a flight of HAWK or HOG fighter aircraft leaving Andrews and heading for parts unknown. And a GATOR 55 coming into Andrews. He was a single F-18.
There were multiple tanker freqs heard today...228.0/238.9/387.8/288.0/139.875/303.0. The 288.0 was used to refuel the DEVIL flight while they were doing ground attack at Pax River Range before going up for that flight I mentioned above. The 228.9 was used to fuel a BOLAR 70 C-5 aircraft from Dover. I believe the 139.875 was tanker interplane between TEAM 51 and 52. There was also a pair of DC KC-135 tankers from Andrews heard on one of those freqs.
There was also a fair share of Navy fighters - SALTY DOG and TESTER - working in the Pax River area for most of the afternoon.
Add all that to the multiple transports flying to the three major bases in the listening area and bunches of them through the area on the ZDC/ZNY freqs and it added up to a very busy MilAir day.
DC-ANG: It started in the 1000 hour with a scramble of two F-16s using callsigns BRAVE 61 and 62. They worked HUNTRESS on 139.7 and all the normal TRACON/Andrews freqs while going out and returning. Late in the same hour there was an ANGRY flight that went to Bollen Range working with BALKY. Later there was a flight of four F-16s, callsign ANGRY, that went to the Dare County Range in NC. They mentioned going to restricted area R-5314 which is Dare.
NJ-ANG: A DEVIL F-16 flight heard through the ZDC area and then with ZNY-Modena saying they were turning west and going to VR-1757. That's a low level fighter route and just as they hit it, they contacted a Flight Service Station on 255.4. They've been doing that often in recent days. Several minutes later they were all over the ZNY freqs going back to Atlantic City. Later there was a BICEP flight of F-16s heard on the ZDC/ZNY freqs.
Langley: There was an exercise in in the southern part of Giant Killier's area W-386 that involved F-22A aircraft along with an E3C aircraft - DARKSTAR PAPA. One callsign was new to me - BANK 71 - and the rest were just too weak to hear. They must have been low. The only reason I suspect that flight was from Langley was that they were using the Langley 233.525 tac freq. A MAI TAI flight also used that freq in another F-22A group.
The reason it got so busy today was that there were just constant flights from out of area fighters coming through the area. There were MAPLE 34 and MAPLE 23 flights of multiple F-16 aircraft each from the VT-ANG at Burlington. There was a BASS flight of A-10s from the CT-ANG at Bradley and a TOMCEK flight of two A-10s (I don't remember if that callsign is the CT-ANG or MA-ANG...but it's one of those two states.) The MAPLE 34 flight was first using tac 139.9 as they chatted their way through the area and were apparently heard by someone at the DC-ANG who also use that as a SOF freq. There followed a long conversation between someone on the ground at Andrews and one of these MAPLE pilots who had common friends. They took the hint after that and changed their tac to 143.825 where one of them later mentioned wishing he had a working targeting pod so he could see those F-22s down below. Between those four flights coming through, I believe I counted 8 tac freqs in use for their chat in the 138-144 range. Oh, and one of the MAPLE pairs mentioned changing to "F-2 on the back radio" which was a reference to using an FM low-band channel. There was also a COLT 01 flight on the ZDC freqs heading south. I heard the flight as far as ZDC New Bern NC before losing it.
There was also a JOSA 382 calling Langley CP on 251.25. The only reason I mention that flight is that he mentioned getting into Langley once "the exercise there has ended" which kind of puts a handle on what was going on with the F-22As and DARKSTAR.
Also had a flight of HAWK or HOG fighter aircraft leaving Andrews and heading for parts unknown. And a GATOR 55 coming into Andrews. He was a single F-18.
There were multiple tanker freqs heard today...228.0/238.9/387.8/288.0/139.875/303.0. The 288.0 was used to refuel the DEVIL flight while they were doing ground attack at Pax River Range before going up for that flight I mentioned above. The 228.9 was used to fuel a BOLAR 70 C-5 aircraft from Dover. I believe the 139.875 was tanker interplane between TEAM 51 and 52. There was also a pair of DC KC-135 tankers from Andrews heard on one of those freqs.
There was also a fair share of Navy fighters - SALTY DOG and TESTER - working in the Pax River area for most of the afternoon.
Add all that to the multiple transports flying to the three major bases in the listening area and bunches of them through the area on the ZDC/ZNY freqs and it added up to a very busy MilAir day.
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ka3jjz
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There's yet another term we could use - JOSA?
Hope you feel better soon, TinEar Mike
Hope you feel better soon, TinEar Mike
TinEar
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Thanks Mike.
JOSA=Joint Operations Support Airlift
SAM=Special Air Mission
1943: There have been a couple of Martin State A-10s working on tac freq 142.3 for the past 45 minutes or so.
1958: The A-10s from 142.3 are in contact with Raven Ops on 347.2 as they start for home.
1958: There is also a pair of U/I fighters working tac 141.675 at the moment....I've been hearing them for about the last 15 minutes.
2030: The A-10s have finally hit the Tower freq on 297.2 at Martin State for landing.
Don't want to start a new thread for this but here's a link to government action on the 764-776 and 794-806 mHz bands for public safety use. They are trying to move it up a couple of years to start in January 2007.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.1646:
JOSA=Joint Operations Support Airlift
SAM=Special Air Mission
1943: There have been a couple of Martin State A-10s working on tac freq 142.3 for the past 45 minutes or so.
1958: The A-10s from 142.3 are in contact with Raven Ops on 347.2 as they start for home.
1958: There is also a pair of U/I fighters working tac 141.675 at the moment....I've been hearing them for about the last 15 minutes.
2030: The A-10s have finally hit the Tower freq on 297.2 at Martin State for landing.
Don't want to start a new thread for this but here's a link to government action on the 764-776 and 794-806 mHz bands for public safety use. They are trying to move it up a couple of years to start in January 2007.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.1646:
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TinEar and all,
I just wanted to pop in here and tell you how much I enjoy reading this thread every day. Even though I'm way out here in Southwest Illinois, your coverage of all of the activity back East is very exciting. As for the JOSA flights, those are coordinated and scheduled by the JOSAC bunch here at HQ USTRANSCOM (United States Transportation Command) at Scott AFB, Illinois. They work down stairs from my office, and are a very busy bunch.
73, Greg
I just wanted to pop in here and tell you how much I enjoy reading this thread every day. Even though I'm way out here in Southwest Illinois, your coverage of all of the activity back East is very exciting. As for the JOSA flights, those are coordinated and scheduled by the JOSAC bunch here at HQ USTRANSCOM (United States Transportation Command) at Scott AFB, Illinois. They work down stairs from my office, and are a very busy bunch.
73, Greg
TinEar
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Thanks for jumping in here Greg and glad to hear you enjoy following the thread. I can only imagine how busy the JOSA bunch must be out there at Scott. Those JOSA aircraft are like ants crawling all over the airways map. If you can hear a Command Post or an ATC freq from just about anywhere, you'll hear a JOSA aircraft before long.
Alan
Alan
ka3jjz
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Thanx Greg and TinEar. I've put the term into our glossary for future reference. 73s Mike
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